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Just throwing it out there and no I haven't been watching Rambo.

I believe we left guys behind, and I believe (after 30+ years of captivity) they're all dead now.

Study up on our establishment of relations with the current regime in VN from back in 1995. The biggest item on the table was 'full accounting'. The VN government had always maintained and still maintains that they let all the POWs go when they emptied out the Hilton.

NOW... just follow your logic here... you are a government that has always hung its hat on the 'we have no more POWs' story. Then, the US offers you the world in exchange for, among other things... that you give a full accounting of all missing Americans. What are the chances that any of those Americans are going to be alive after that point?

There are lots of theories out there, and some of them seem plausible on the surface, but the bottom line is that there has been a point in history where live Americans in VN would have been a very very large problem for VN. Do the math.

As someone with a family member who was missing from 1971 and last known alive on the ground in VN (shot down in Lam Son Laos in 1971, captured), I have followed all of this pretty closely. I am certain that my uncle as well as the rest of the missing are dead.

There might be a deserter or two out there, (see Buller, etc) but anyone who was captured is not alive today.

AZGrizFan wrote:I believe we left guys behind, and I believe (after 30+ years of captivity) they're all dead now.

I agree.

CID1990 wrote:Study up on our establishment of relations with the current regime in VN from back in 1995. The biggest item on the table was 'full accounting'. The VN government had always maintained and still maintains that they let all the POWs go when they emptied out the Hilton.

NOW... just follow your logic here... you are a government that has always hung its hat on the 'we have no more POWs' story. Then, the US offers you the world in exchange for, among other things... that you give a full accounting of all missing Americans. What are the chances that any of those Americans are going to be alive after that point?

There are lots of theories out there, and some of them seem plausible on the surface, but the bottom line is that there has been a point in history where live Americans in VN would have been a very very large problem for VN. Do the math.

As someone with a family member who was missing from 1971 and last known alive on the ground in VN (shot down in Lam Son Laos in 1971, captured), I have followed all of this pretty closely. I am certain that my uncle as well as the rest of the missing are dead.

There might be a deserter or two out there, (see Buller, etc) but anyone who was captured is not alive today.

God bless your uncle and your post is as accurate a statement as could be made regarding this situation.

blueballs wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Study up on our establishment of relations with the current regime in VN from back in 1995. The biggest item on the table was 'full accounting'. The VN government had always maintained and still maintains that they let all the POWs go when they emptied out the Hilton.

NOW... just follow your logic here... you are a government that has always hung its hat on the 'we have no more POWs' story. Then, the US offers you the world in exchange for, among other things... that you give a full accounting of all missing Americans. What are the chances that any of those Americans are going to be alive after that point?

There are lots of theories out there, and some of them seem plausible on the surface, but the bottom line is that there has been a point in history where live Americans in VN would have been a very very large problem for VN. Do the math.

As someone with a family member who was missing from 1971 and last known alive on the ground in VN (shot down in Lam Son Laos in 1971, captured), I have followed all of this pretty closely. I am certain that my uncle as well as the rest of the missing are dead.

There might be a deserter or two out there, (see Buller, etc) but anyone who was captured is not alive today.

God bless your uncle and your post is as accurate a statement as could be made regarding this situation.

Yup. God Bless your uncle, Cid.

Yours is a straight post.

It happened in Korea, the Cold War, and WWII. Yes, even Ike left some behind, for the same political calculations enunciated in Cid's post.

Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command

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blueballs wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Study up on our establishment of relations with the current regime in VN from back in 1995. The biggest item on the table was 'full accounting'. The VN government had always maintained and still maintains that they let all the POWs go when they emptied out the Hilton.

NOW... just follow your logic here... you are a government that has always hung its hat on the 'we have no more POWs' story. Then, the US offers you the world in exchange for, among other things... that you give a full accounting of all missing Americans. What are the chances that any of those Americans are going to be alive after that point?

There are lots of theories out there, and some of them seem plausible on the surface, but the bottom line is that there has been a point in history where live Americans in VN would have been a very very large problem for VN. Do the math.

As someone with a family member who was missing from 1971 and last known alive on the ground in VN (shot down in Lam Son Laos in 1971, captured), I have followed all of this pretty closely. I am certain that my uncle as well as the rest of the missing are dead.

There might be a deserter or two out there, (see Buller, etc) but anyone who was captured is not alive today.

God bless your uncle and your post is as accurate a statement as could be made regarding this situation.

+1

all these posts in this thread and not one pic of Chuck Norris?

AZGrizFan wrote:I believe we left guys behind, and I believe (after 30+ years of captivity) they're all dead now.

AZGrizFan wrote:I believe we left guys behind, and I believe (after 30+ years of captivity) they're all dead now.

Probably, but don't forget that Japanese soldiers were turning up on Pacific islands in the mid-80s.....

citdog wrote:all these posts in this thread and not one pic of Chuck Norris?

We need to have a pic of you available, because we all know you could kick chuck's ass.

houndawg wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:I believe we left guys behind, and I believe (after 30+ years of captivity) they're all dead now.

Probably, but don't forget that Japanese soldiers were turning up on Pacific islands in the mid-80s.....

You just posted that because you're jealous of the uniform.

Understandably, of course.





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