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The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists' review said foetuses are "undeveloped and sedated".

Brain connections are not fully formed, and the environment of the womb creates a state of induced sleep, like unconsciousness, they add.

Anti-abortion campaigners challenged the reports.

The issue of whether a foetus of 24 weeks or below can feel pain had been raised in the debate over whether the current time limit for abortion should be reduced.

The limit is set down in the 1967 Abortion Act, which covers all parts of the UK apart from Northern Ireland. In Northern Ireland abortion is not permitted, unless the mother's health is at risk.

An up-to-date analysis of evidence was recommended by MPs in a report from the Commons Science and Technology committee during the last parliament, and commissioned by the Department of Health.

I am personally against it, unless the mothers life is in danger.

catamount man wrote:I am personally against it, unless the mothers life is in danger.

I am personally against people who can't properly raise kids getting pregnant or impregnating someone.

Is this the best you guys can do...?
Jeeze man - I was looking for FIRE and BRIMSTONE vs. SCIENCE and LOGIC
and all I get is this...


very disappointing

There's nothing exciting about revisionist definitions used to justify murder.

Who cares......pump out effin welfare babies until the cows come home. Maybe if fvcking breeders would start having more kids again, we wouldn't have to import so many gd many foreigners to grow our effed up economy!

MJ sounds like one of those who would take A Modest Proposal literally.

Concerns over increased welfare costs do NOT justify murder....

mainejeff wrote:Who cares......pump out effin welfare babies until the cows come home. Maybe if fvcking breeders would start having more kids again, we wouldn't have to import so many gd many foreigners to grow our effed up economy!

Must be a good batch of meth there Jeffie.

Personally, I am pro-choice. None of my business. But I don't see how this changes anything. I mean, so the fetus is in this sedated sleep state, so it doesn't feel pain. Does that mean the next time you pop a couple of xanax and drift off to la la land, it's OK for me to come into your bedroom and pop a cap in your brainpan? Cause, you won't feel it. I don't see where this is anything close to a game changer.

death dealer wrote:Personally, I am pro-choice. None of my business. But I don't see how this changes anything. I mean, so the fetus is in this sedated sleep state, so it doesn't feel pain. Does that mean the next time you pop a couple of xanax and drift off to la la land, it's OK for me to come into your bedroom and pop a cap in your brainpan? Cause, you won't feel it. I don't see where this is anything close to a game changer.

Yep

mainejeff wrote:Who cares......pump out effin welfare babies until the cows come home. Maybe if fvcking breeders would start having more kids again, we wouldn't have to import so many gd many foreigners to grow our effed up economy!

Maybe if you'd give up chasing a penis and embrace the wonders of screwing a woman, then we "breeders" wouldn't need to work so hard to meet your needs.

Cluck U wrote:

mainejeff wrote:Who cares......pump out effin welfare babies until the cows come home. Maybe if fvcking breeders would start having more kids again, we wouldn't have to import so many gd many foreigners to grow our effed up economy!

Maybe if you'd give up chasing a penis and embrace the wonders of screwing a woman, then we "breeders" wouldn't need to work so hard to meet your needs.

Huh?

So now you have to be gay to use the term "breeders"??? Jesus H. Christ.......what is this world coming to?

death dealer wrote:Personally, I am pro-choice. None of my business. But I don't see how this changes anything. I mean, so the fetus is in this sedated sleep state, so it doesn't feel pain. Does that mean the next time you pop a couple of xanax and drift off to la la land, it's OK for me to come into your bedroom and pop a cap in your brainpan? Cause, you won't feel it. I don't see where this is anything close to a game changer.

That from "Death Dealer"...

mainejeff wrote:Who cares......pump out effin welfare babies until the cows come home. Maybe if fvcking breeders would start having more kids again, we wouldn't have to import so many gd many foreigners to grow our effed up economy!

MJ... welfare babies don't have to work and that's why we import the foreigners.

My aversion to elective abortion is not rooted in whether the fetus can feel pain or not.

it's okay to eat fish,
cuz they don't have any feelings.

CID1990 wrote:

mainejeff wrote:Who cares......pump out effin welfare babies until the cows come home. Maybe if fvcking breeders would start having more kids again, we wouldn't have to import so many gd many foreigners to grow our effed up economy!

MJ... welfare babies don't have to work and that's why we import the foreigners.

Even with a 10% unemployment rate???.......

JayJ79 wrote:it's okay to eat fish,
cuz they don't have any feelings.

I hear that filleted fetuses are tasty.......especially if you fry them up and use a little Tabasco.

JayJ79 wrote:it's okay to eat fish,
cuz they don't have any feelings.

nice Cobain reference! reppies if i could!

Chizzang wrote:Is this the best you guys can do...?
Jeeze man - I was looking for FIRE and BRIMSTONE vs. SCIENCE and LOGIC
and all I get is this...


very disappointing

What's the matter? Did you get some damp firewood for this fire?

Ok. So I guess the message here is that it's OK to kill somebody if they're asleep, unconcious, or sedated so that they can't feel it.

Ok. So I guess the message here is that it's OK to kill somebody if they're asleep, unconcious, or sedated so that they can't feel it.

How did you get that message? The message I took is that it looks like there may not be a lot of pain involved for the fetus. That's all the article said when I read it. I criticize people for inferring what YOU mean when they read what you post based on evidence. Now here you are inferring what is to be thought based on research.

I missed the part where Cleets said "they don't feel it so it's OK, go ahead and do it."