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SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:23 am
by Col Hogan
Upholding the Constitution of the United States, the Supreme Court has struck down the City of Chicagos total ban on handgun ownership by its citizens...
In another dramatic victory for firearm owners, the Supreme Court has ruled unconstitutional Chicago, Illinois' 28-year-old strict ban on handgun ownership, a potentially far-reaching case over the ability of state and local governments to enforce limits on weapons.

A conservative majority of justices on Monday reiterated its two-year-old conclusion the Constitution gives individuals equal or greater power than states on the issue of possession of certain firearms for self-protection.

The court, however, said local jurisdictions still retain the flexibility to preserve some "reasonable" gun control measures currently in place nationwide.


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Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:08 am
by AZGrizFan
It took 28 YEARS????

Exhibit A for what's wrong with this country.

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:23 am
by Pwns
:thumb:

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:28 am
by UNHWildCats
Last weekend 70 people were shot in Chicago.

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:30 am
by AZGrizFan
UNHWildCats wrote:Last weekend 70 people were shot in Chicago.
And your point is?

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:32 am
by Col Hogan
UNHWildCats wrote:Last weekend 70 people were shot in Chicago.
Quick...how many of them were legal handgun owners???

NONE

Now, riddle me this...

in states that allow/permit concealed carry of handguns...how many crimes are committed by legal handgun owners???












Since 1989....9 handgun crimes have been committed by legal permit holders.....






PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE TIME TO GET TRAINING AND FOLLOW THE LAWS DO NOT COMMIT CRIMES WITH GUNS...

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:34 am
by AZGrizFan
When owning a gun is criminal, only criminals will own guns. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:42 am
by Appaholic
Col Hogan wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote:Last weekend 70 people were shot in Chicago.
Quick...how many of them were legal handgun owners???

NONE

Now, riddle me this...

in states that allow/permit concealed carry of handguns...how many crimes are committed by legal handgun owners???












Since 1989....9 handgun crimes have been committed by legal permit holders.....






PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE TIME TO GET TRAINING AND FOLLOW THE LAWS DO NOT COMMIT CRIMES WITH GUNS...

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
No fair, Col. Quit using logic & facts to support your argument....guns are bad...

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:47 am
by Col Hogan
Think about this way...if we get rid of guns, we still have a crime problem...if we get rid of criminals, we don't have a gun problem...

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:57 am
by Ursus A. Horribilis
UNHWildCats wrote:Last weekend 70 people were shot in Chicago.
Are you simply posting a stat to support the Supreme Court's decision? If you are then good for you. :thumb:

If you're not then you are a reactionary retard and I feel bad for how much of a fail this is...again.

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:58 am
by Ivytalk
Colonel 1, Travis 0

What would have happened if Carlos Zambrano had had a pistol in the Cubs' dugout on Saturday? :?

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:01 am
by Col Hogan
From another forum I frequent (yes, I cheat on cs.com :oops: )
Gun laws are only applicable to Law abiding people. Read that again if you missed it.
Criminals will not follow Gun laws.
You also cannot pass enough legislation to stop a criminal from obtaining a weapon. If they want a gun they will get one. Once again a criminal will not follow gun laws so they will obtain guns through unlawful means.

If a criminal should take action with a firearm, say in a crowded area, the presence of a lawfully armed and trained citizen could save lives and maybe yours or your families. (There are many cases in the past that prove this)

Those who do not feel comfortable with firearms should not carry. I fully support their wishes, but don't tread carelessly on the rights of others because of your fears. A lawfully armed citizen may just save your life one day, because most armed citizens have a strong desire to be a protector of others.

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:13 am
by UNHWildCats
I was simply pointing out 70 people were shot last weekend in Chicago, use the number anyway you want. :thumb:

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:14 am
by UNHWildCats
Ivytalk wrote:Colonel 1, Travis 0

What would have happened if Carlos Zambrano had had a pistol in the Cubs' dugout on Saturday? :?
The Cubs would be looking for a 1B

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:14 am
by AZGrizFan
UNHWildCats wrote:I was simply pointing out 70 people were shot last weekend in Chicago, use the number anyway you want. :thumb:
This is Travis, backpedaling away as quickly as possible. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:17 am
by UNHWildCats
Col Hogan wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote:Last weekend 70 people were shot in Chicago.
Quick...how many of them were legal handgun owners???

NONE

Now, riddle me this...

in states that allow/permit concealed carry of handguns...how many crimes are committed by legal handgun owners???












Since 1989....9 handgun crimes have been committed by legal permit holders.....







PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE TIME TO GET TRAINING AND FOLLOW THE LAWS DO NOT COMMIT CRIMES WITH GUNS...

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
In all of the USA with states that allow concealed weapons to be carried only 9 handgun crimes have occured?

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:24 am
by Ursus A. Horribilis
UNHWildCats wrote:I was simply pointing out 70 people were shot last weekend in Chicago, use the number anyway you want. :thumb:
Gotcha. I was hoping you were using it as proof that the gun ban is not working anyway. :thumb:

Good work Travis.

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:27 am
by Col Hogan
UNHWildCats wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Quick...how many of them were legal handgun owners???

NONE

Now, riddle me this...

in states that allow/permit concealed carry of handguns...how many crimes are committed by legal handgun owners???












Since 1989....9 handgun crimes have been committed by legal permit holders.....







PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE TIME TO GET TRAINING AND FOLLOW THE LAWS DO NOT COMMIT CRIMES WITH GUNS...

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
In all of the USA with states that allow concealed weapons to be carried only 9 handgun crimes have occured?
BY LEGAL CCW PERMIT CARRIERS...

Don't leave out the key part of the phrase...

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:27 am
by Ursus A. Horribilis
UNHWildCats wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Quick...how many of them were legal handgun owners???

NONE

Now, riddle me this...

in states that allow/permit concealed carry of handguns...how many crimes are committed by legal handgun owners???












Since 1989....9 handgun crimes have been committed by legal permit holders.....







PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE TIME TO GET TRAINING AND FOLLOW THE LAWS DO NOT COMMIT CRIMES WITH GUNS...

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
In all of the USA with states that allow concealed weapons to be carried only 9 handgun crimes have occured?
He pretty specifically said that 9 were committed by people that had a legal carry permit. In other words, people that carry guns illegally are the ones committing the gun crimes. That was a pretty simple read my man so you better take another look at what he said.

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:31 am
by HI54UNI
:thumb: :thumb:

What's scary is the vote was 5-4. :ohno:

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:33 am
by Col Hogan
HI54UNI wrote::thumb: :thumb:

What's scary is the vote was 5-4. :ohno:
Very scary... :ohno:

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:39 am
by Grizalltheway
This bleeding-heart liberal approves. :thumb: :o

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:56 am
by UNHWildCats
Col Hogan wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote: In all of the USA with states that allow concealed weapons to be carried only 9 handgun crimes have occured?
BY LEGAL CCW PERMIT CARRIERS...

Don't leave out the key part of the phrase...
I didnt mean to leave that part out, but I still aint buying that number. What are we considering a crime?

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:02 am
by UNHWildCats
UNHWildCats wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
BY LEGAL CCW PERMIT CARRIERS...

Don't leave out the key part of the phrase...
I didnt mean to leave that part out, but I still aint buying that number. What are we considering a crime?
Also Im not saying I think the number is high either, I just think 9 crimes in 21 years doesnt sound very accurate.

Re: SCOTUS strikes down Chicago Handgun Ban

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:04 am
by Ursus A. Horribilis
UNHWildCats wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
BY LEGAL CCW PERMIT CARRIERS...

Don't leave out the key part of the phrase...
I didnt mean to leave that part out, but I still aint buying that number. What are we considering a crime?
What the fuck? We get to consider on our own what a crime is now? A crime is whatever the local governing body considers a crime as far as weapons is concerned isn't it?