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Manders: I, too, am pro life but I'm also pro choice, do you understand what I mean when I say that.

Angle: I'm pro responsible choice. There is choice to abstain choice to do contraception. There are all kind of good choices.

Manders: Is there any reason at all for an abortion?

Angle: Not in my book.

Manders: So, in other words, rape and incest would not be something?

Angle: You know, I'm a Christian and I believe that God has a plan and a purpose for each one of our lives and that he can intercede in all kinds of situations and we need to have a little faith in many things.

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It's good to see a lot more female candidates...

Their take on the pro-life position has more clout than a man's...

Col Hogan wrote:It's good to see a lot more female candidates...

Their take on the pro-life position has more clout than a man's...

How about we just let each woman make the choice for herself?

UNHWildCats wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:It's good to see a lot more female candidates...

Their take on the pro-life position has more clout than a man's...

How about we just let each woman make the choice for herself?

How about we don't kill innocent life?

UNHWildCats wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:It's good to see a lot more female candidates...

Their take on the pro-life position has more clout than a man's...

How about we just let each woman make the choice for herself?

How about we finally let the 10th amendment do what it was designed to do and let the individual states decide.

While I'm strictly pro-life, I'd accept the 10th Amendment solution...

In the 80's a rubber broke and she got Pregnant.
I said I'll pay for the pregnancy and you can have any visitation rights you want....but I want the baby
she said no and had the abortion.

Reversing it.... if I had said lets have an abortion and she said no I would have had child support payments for18 years.

When do men get any rights?

Baldy wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: How about we just let each woman make the choice for herself?

How about we finally let the 10th amendment do what it was designed to do and let the individual states decide.

nope. Not gonna happen.

Col Hogan wrote:While I'm strictly pro-life, I'd accept the 10th Amendment solution...

You aint pro life then.

D1B wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:While I'm strictly pro-life, I'd accept the 10th Amendment solution...

You aint pro life then.

Am too...

Rob Iola wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: How about we just let each woman make the choice for herself?

How about we don't kill innocent life?

Are you talking about Iraq..?

Republicans want no restrictions on guns.

but...


Republicans want to restrict what a woman can and cant do with their body

Republicans want to restrict who someone can and cant marry

Here's the thing:

The only reason to say that a woman can't terminate a pregnancy is that doing so means she's killing another individual. The idea is that it's not just a matter of a woman doing what she wants with her own body. Someone else's "body," someone else's existence, is involved. The point of being against allowing women to choose abortion is that when they make that choice they kill somebody else.

That being the case, there is no WAY you legitimately justify saying that abortion becomes "OK" if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest. The unborn individual is not responsible for the action of its father. If it has a right to live, the fact that its father was a rapist or guilty of incest does not change that.

The position that abortion should be prohibited EXCEPT in cases of rape and incest is totally indefensable. Either you're killing somebody or you're not. If you are, it's wrong and it shouldn't be allowed regardless of how the conception occurred. If you're not, there's absolutely no basis for interferring with the woman's choice at all.

Saweeeeeeeeet. Another abortion thread. I predict no one wins but everyone claims victory.

Abortion thread gnome says:

JohnStOnge wrote:Here's the thing:

The only reason to say that a woman can't terminate a pregnancy is that doing so means she's killing another individual. The idea is that it's not just a matter of a woman doing what she wants with her own body. Someone else's "body," someone else's existence, is involved. The point of being against allowing women to choose abortion is that when they make that choice they kill somebody else.

That being the case, there is no WAY you legitimately justify saying that abortion becomes "OK" if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest. The unborn individual is not responsible for the action of its father. If it has a right to live, the fact that its father was a rapist or guilty of incest does not change that.

The position that abortion should be prohibited EXCEPT in cases of rape and incest is totally indefensable. Either you're killing somebody or you're not. If you are, it's wrong and it shouldn't be allowed regardless of how the conception occurred. If you're not, there's absolutely no basis for interferring with the woman's choice at all.

John, your god aborts millions of fetuses a year. He is by far the world's greatest abortionist and mass murderer.

John, your god aborts millions of fetuses a year. He is by far the world's greatest abortionist and mass murderer.

D, you continue to misunderstand what I am.

JohnStOnge wrote:

John, your god aborts millions of fetuses a year. He is by far the world's greatest abortionist and mass murderer.

D, you continue to misunderstand what I am.

Another christian converted to atheist by D1B. Chalkin em up left and right...

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flabamountman
Tman
Gil Dobie
and now, St. Wronge

UNHWildCats wrote:Republicans want no restrictions on guns.

but...


Republicans want to restrict what a woman can and cant do with their body

Republicans want to restrict who someone can and cant marry

Democrats want to control who someone can and can't marry too...government sanctioned marriage is bad any way you slice it. Think about it Travis, having to get a marriage license is a form of control (restriction). It's time to end government sanctioned marriages and the "benefits" that come with it.

As to abortion, I think most everyone is "pro-life." I don't think anyone WANTS to kill innocent life (as was mentioned before). I'd hate to think of being in the situation of an unwanted pregnancy. While I'm personally against convenience abortions, I certainly don't think the government has a right prevent us (my wife and I) from having an abortion if it would save my wife's life. That's absurd. I support the idea of following the 10th Amendment, but I'm also a realist, and it's clear current abortion law isn't changing anytime soon.

As to guns (yeah, I know reverse order), the 2nd Amendment is clear, and should be observed. However, it's also clear it's not a free reign for citizens to have any weapon they desire (regardless of purpose)...though, I certainly lean towards less regulation.

That's my attempt at a "common-sense" approach.

This is another example of why we need a secular pro-life movement. Your explanation is "God has a plan"? Really?

The minority of pro-life folks who are pro-life out of religious beliefs and not because of common sense are the loudest and help the loopy feminazis push the myth of the "anti-choice" movement that wants all women to be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen.

93henfan wrote:Saweeeeeeeeet. Another abortion thread. I predict no one wins but everyone claims victory.

Abortion thread gnome says:

+1,028,659

I don't know much about abortion
But it is fascinating to listen to people get so worked up about killing innocent lives
and yet we have killed a minimum of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians - and - I am told it's an acceptable collateral damage considering the circumstances.

Told to me by these same people who are so anti-abortion

Is it possible to consider an abortion in similar terms... as collateral damage of a free nation..?
Explain to me how it's so different..?





I wonder..........

Pwns wrote: that wants all women to be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen.

i actually like them not pregnant, with high heels......but the kitchen part.......i'm ALL for

UNHWildCats wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:It's good to see a lot more female candidates...

Their take on the pro-life position has more clout than a man's...

How about we just let each woman make the choice for herself?

I'm pro- choice. I'm all for a woman's ability to choose to have sex or not. But like with all choices, you must live with the consequences. I'm also for holding the man legally and financially responsible for the child's care. When did we become a society of unaccountability?


Bronco, I feel for you, my brother was in a similar situation. I could have been an uncle 7 years ago but the b*#&Q decided to kill it and my brother hasn't been the same since.

Chizzang wrote:

Rob Iola wrote: How about we don't kill innocent life?

Are you talking about Iraq..?

Iraq is soooooo 2009.

D1B wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
D, you continue to misunderstand what I am.

Another christian converted to atheist by D1B. Chalkin em up left and right...

AZ
flabamountman
Tman
Gil Dobie
and now, St. Wronge

Interesting. Pro-choise = atheism in D's book.