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Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:55 am
by Pwns
The drug lobby has begun a pro-Reid TV blitz in his home state of Nevada. One ad praises Reid for saving jobs and for understanding that "good jobs with good benefits [mean] a better future." The narrator then instructs viewers to "call Harry Reid today; tell him to keep fighting for Nevada families."
But "Nevada families" didn't pay for the ad. The drug lobby did. And while the TV spot makes only passing reference to the health care bill passed in March, there's no doubt this ad buy -- and the rest of the drug industry's generosity toward Harry Reid -- is a big thank you for the corporate-welfare "reform" bill that Reid shepherded through the Senate.
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I suppose it's only fair. Reid and the donks packed the bill with goodies for these guys, and made sure to only blame the cost of healthcare on the profits of the evil insurance companies and and the much bigger profits of the medical-industrial complex.
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:24 am
by Chizzang
Basically Drug companies and Insurance companies wrote that bill...
But don't worry corporations don't run this country... that's an illusion
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:30 am
by travelinman67
Chizzang wrote:Basically Drug companies and Insurance companies wrote that bill...
But don't worry corporations don't run this country... that's an illusion
And the Republican's are in corporate America's pocket...
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:51 am
by Chizzang
travelinman67 wrote:Chizzang wrote:Basically Drug companies and Insurance companies wrote that bill...
But don't worry corporations don't run this country... that's an illusion
And the Republican's are in corporate America's pocket...
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:54 am
by Chizzang
travelinman67 wrote:Chizzang wrote:Basically Drug companies and Insurance companies wrote that bill...
But don't worry corporations don't run this country... that's an illusion
And the Republican's are in corporate America's pocket...
Yes, Republicans gleefully run to defend corporate America - that's the only honor they have left - is that they admit it... Democrats just lie about it and pretend like they're not...
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:21 am
by Baldy
Chizzang wrote:
But don't worry corporations don't run this country... that's an illusion
It's not an illusion, it's a lie.
The truth is government has corporations in their hip pocket.
It's a win-win relationship. The government uses corporations to do what it wants, corporations make tons of money and when it blows up, the government does the finger pointing. Corporations get the proverbial velvet gloved 'slap on the wrist' from the government. Little to nothing changes, and the viscious cycle starts again.
One of these days you people will learn who plays the lead in this horrific tragedy.
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:38 am
by Chizzang
Baldy wrote:Chizzang wrote:
But don't worry corporations don't run this country... that's an illusion
It's not an illusion, it's a lie.
The truth is government has corporations in their hip pocket.
It's a win-win relationship. The government uses corporations to do what it wants, corporations make tons of money and when it blows up, the government does the finger pointing. Corporations get the proverbial velvet gloved 'slap on the wrist' from the government. Little to nothing changes, and the viscious cycle starts again.
One of these days you people will learn who plays the lead in this horrific tragedy.
Okay fair enough...
But the end result is 100% identical - you say tomato
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:45 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:Baldy wrote:
It's not an illusion, it's a lie.
The truth is government has corporations in their hip pocket.
It's a win-win relationship. The government uses corporations to do what it wants, corporations make tons of money and when it blows up, the government does the finger pointing. Corporations get the proverbial velvet gloved 'slap on the wrist' from the government. Little to nothing changes, and the viscious cycle starts again.
One of these days you people will learn who plays the lead in this horrific tragedy.
Okay fair enough...
But the end result is 100% identical - you say tomato
Hey, fuck you, buster. I made that exact same claim a couple months ago and you verbally assaulted me.
Fucker.
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 am
by Pwns
It's an oversimplification to say government is subordinate to corporations or the other way around. Both exert power over the other in certain situations. What's disappointing is that republicans don't get as upset about corporations exerting power over government as they do vice versa, even though both are against the principles they are supposed to stand for of limited government and free markets.
The irony is that while a lot of today's republicans are cheerleading "free speech" for corporations, it could be tough for them to fix the problems with Obamacare down the road because the same corporate special interests that wrote the bill and stand to gain from it will resist changes that are needed. That's not unlike trying to trim the excesses of the federal government in other places. Folks in the private sector are always going to defend their piece of the corporate welfare pie no matter how little the government really needs the goods or services they provide.
We need to face facts that limited, sustainable government is a pipe dream until the stranglehold of big business in DC.
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:32 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:Chizzang wrote:
Okay fair enough...
But the end result is 100% identical - you say tomato
Hey, fuck you, buster. I made that exact same claim a couple months ago and you verbally assaulted me.
Fucker.
The point is they are "hand in hand" lobby group to campaign finance manger - special interest to pocket book - lock step in stride.... the Net result is completely the same - which one is pretending to be the "boy" in the relationship is moot and frankly changes daily depending on needs and situation
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:35 pm
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
The point is they are "hand in hand" lobby group to campaign finance manger - special interest to pocket book - lock step in stride.... the Net result is completely the same - which one is pretending to be the "boy" in the relationship is moot and frankly changes daily depending on needs and situation
well then. You've certainly changed YOUR tune recently.
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:59 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:Chizzang wrote:
The point is they are "hand in hand" lobby group to campaign finance manger - special interest to pocket book - lock step in stride.... the Net result is completely the same - which one is pretending to be the "boy" in the relationship is moot and frankly changes daily depending on needs and situation
well then. You've certainly changed YOUR tune recently.
Semantics - that's all we have here...
There is NO CHANGE in my position
Re: Big Pharma fighting to save Harry Reid...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:00 pm
by Chizzang
