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I'm glad somebody has finally written an article challenging "Patriotism" as a Christian virtue... Christus Victor Ministries & Greg Boyd are always an interesting read. I've always argued that Patriotism is a Political & Nationalistic virtue not at all related to ones faith in God... but I get attacked on this idea

it's a short read but very interesting

http://www.gregboyd.org/blog/the-patriots-bible-really" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Only Christians can be true Patriots.

Sarah Palin wrote:Only Christians can be true Patriots.

Mama Grizzly to the rescue

Chizzang wrote:I'm glad somebody has finally written an article challenging "Patriotism" as a Christian virtue... Christus Victor Ministries & Greg Boyd are always an interesting read. I've always argued that Patriotism is a Political & Nationalistic virtue not at all related to ones faith in God... but I get attacked on this idea

it's a short read but very interesting

http://www.gregboyd.org/blog/the-patriots-bible-really" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think patriotism can rise from commonalities like religion. It is easy to be nationalistic if most of your fellow countrymen share similar religions, identities, etc.

But I agree that patriotism is certainly a separate issue from religion. Christianity has nothing to do with it, as I have seen some pretty patriotic Hindus, and the Buddhists in Vietnam were a strong factor against the Diem governement. Even in countries like Saudi Arabia, patriotism for country is trumped by religious 'piety', in fact, most Wahabbists would argue that patriotism is counter to Islam.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -- James Madison

The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home. – James Madison

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders...tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. – Herman Goering

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. – Voltaire

Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible. ~ Sinclair Lewis 1935

Sarah Palin wrote:Only Christians can be true Patriots.

Sarah - great to see you on the board even though I think you're a dumb bitch!! Ha ha!!!!

kalm wrote:If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -- James Madison

The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home. – James Madison

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders...tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. – Herman Goering

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. – Voltaire

Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible. ~ Sinclair Lewis 1935

Somebody found bartleby.com. Congrats.

Patriotism, like religion, can be wonderful in the right context.

But both can be terribly dangerous and detrimental when taken to fanatical levels (which they all too often are).

If your only basis for doing/thinking something is "because it's patriotic" or "because my religion tells me to", without there being logical reason behind it, it is probably a bad thing.

Sarah Palin wrote:Only Christians can be true Patriots.

Beware of Tyrants who hide behind the flag of patriotism: Thomas Jefferson

Chizzang wrote:I'm glad somebody has finally written an article challenging "Patriotism" as a Christian virtue... Christus Victor Ministries & Greg Boyd are always an interesting read. I've always argued that Patriotism is a Political & Nationalistic virtue not at all related to ones faith in God... but I get attacked on this idea

it's a short read but very interesting

http://www.gregboyd.org/blog/the-patriots-bible-really" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good post! I always argue for the patriot but have never had to disassociate it from religion and faith.

mrklean wrote:

Sarah Palin wrote:Only Christians can be true Patriots.

Beware of Tyrants who hide behind the flag of patriotism: Thomas Jefferson

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken: Col. Sanders (retired).

Bitch set me up: Marion Berry.


Anyone can post someone elses words. What do you think?!

BigSkyBears wrote:

Sarah Palin wrote:Only Christians can be true Patriots.

Sarah - great to see you on the board even though I think you're a dumb bitch!! Ha ha!!!!

CitadelGrad wrote:

kalm wrote:If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -- James Madison

The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home. – James Madison

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders...tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. – Herman Goering

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. – Voltaire

Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible. ~ Sinclair Lewis 1935

Somebody found bartleby.com. Congrats.

Now if we can only get the ENTIRE republican party to read it....

Chizzang wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
Somebody found bartleby.com. Congrats.

Now if we can only get the ENTIRE republican party to read it....