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FYI, this is the same Senator who won b/c his opponent in '06 used the word "Macaca"

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Webb is a fucking piece of shit. He'd also like to keep women out of the workforce and in the kitchen.

He'd have my vote.

If you force diversity, as many places are these days, in the end, you leave out qualified white males. It is discrimination. There is no other way around it.

89Hen wrote:Webb is a **** piece of ****. He'd also like to keep women out of the workforce and in the kitchen.

If that is the case, then he is a piece of shit. Discrimination is deplorable. Let the best person get the job.

89Hen wrote:Webb is a **** piece of ****. He'd also like to keep women out of the workforce and in the kitchen.

Where do you get that?

89Hen wrote:Webb is a fucking piece of shit. He'd also like to keep women out of the workforce and in the kitchen.

Webb may very well be a piece of shit, but he's right on the money on this topic.

AZGrizFan wrote:

89Hen wrote:Webb is a fucking piece of shit. He'd also like to keep women out of the workforce and in the kitchen.

Webb may very well be a piece of shit, but he's right on the money on this topic.

Yeah, I'm not really sure what he's saying is wrong. It's sort of the same overall message that the USDA lady was trying to make in her speech. The system is rigged to pit the poor of all races against one another. Which leads one to surmise the intent as keeping them all fighting amongst themselves for the scraps so they don't notice when the master walks away with the whole bird. It'd get real interesting around here if all those poor white southern baptists suddenly got wise to the man.

death dealer wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Webb may very well be a piece of shit, but he's right on the money on this topic.

Yeah, I'm not really sure what he's saying is wrong. It's sort of the same overall message that the USDA lady was trying to make in her speech. The system is rigged to pit the poor of all races against one another. Which leads one to surmise the intent as keeping them all fighting amongst themselves for the scraps so they don't notice when the master walks away with the whole bird. It'd get real interesting around here if all those poor white southern baptists suddenly got wise to the man.

Government mandated diversity - in the top 5 of things that fucked this country beyond belief.

AZGrizFan wrote:

89Hen wrote:Webb is a **** piece of ****. He'd also like to keep women out of the workforce and in the kitchen.

Webb may very well be a piece of ****, but he's right on the money on this topic.

Yup.

It would be interesting to see how many people turn into single issue voters on this one.

AZGrizFan wrote:
Government mandated diversity - in the top 5 of things that **** this country beyond belief.

Eh, I see your point and I see Webb's point and I agree with it to a certain degree...

But, "government mandated diversity" would include things like Brown vs. Board, Little Rock vs. Arkansas, Civil Rights Act, etc.... right?

Skjellyfetti wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Government mandated diversity - in the top 5 of things that **** this country beyond belief.

Eh, I see your point and I see Webb's point and I agree with it to a certain degree...

But, "government mandated diversity" would include things like Brown vs. Board, Little Rock vs. Arkansas, Civil Rights Act, etc.... right?

How do you come to that conclusion???

Col Hogan wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Eh, I see your point and I see Webb's point and I agree with it to a certain degree...

But, "government mandated diversity" would include things like Brown vs. Board, Little Rock vs. Arkansas, Civil Rights Act, etc.... right?

How do you come to that conclusion???

Because it seems to me like Brown vs. Board mandated diversity by outlawing white-only schools and black-only schools? No?

I think it might be a little difficult for Congress to overturn Brown v. BoE, given that Brown was a Supreme Court decision. However, Congress could repeal its numerous laws concerning diversity.

Civil rights laws = equality of opportunity
diversity programs = equality of outcome

I'm still just trying to figure how it is that Sen. Webb wants women out of the workplace and back in the kitchen.

Webb is a man of many contrasts. I'm still not sure where he will come from on any topic. That's probably because there aren't too many former Reagan officials serving as US Senators with a D behind their name.

I don't see the connection with Brown vs. the Board of education or the Civil rights act, as I don't see those about diversity as much as civil rights, but there are a ton of other things that this could effect. I'm not really sure where this starts and stops....

CID1990 wrote:I'm still just trying to figure how it is that Sen. Webb wants women out of the workplace and back in the kitchen.

He's a known sexist. The fact that he got elected really baffled me.

89Hen wrote:

CID1990 wrote:I'm still just trying to figure how it is that Sen. Webb wants women out of the workplace and back in the kitchen.

He's a known sexist. The fact that he got elected really baffled me.

I believe Hen is confused. There was some controversy around our governor, Bob McDonnell about a thesis he wrote promoting the belief that many families would be better served with a stay-at-home mom vice the added income from a career. Never heard of Webb in any sort of issue like that, though.

However, to be fair, Webb is an absolute piece of shit who campaigned on his military record and "independence from special interest groups". He has voted lock step with Reid on all major Dem initiatives. He is only reaching across the aisle (guns rights, too) lately because the majority of Virginians hate him. He is our own little version of a democratic John McCain, and will hopefully have a very short career.

89Hen wrote:Webb is a fucking GENIUS! He'd also like to keep women out of the workforce and in the kitchen.

WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID.

My percpetion is that the "diversity" thing is a way to get around calling what's going on "reverse discrimination" or "quotas." The idea is that "diversity" makes for an objectively more effective organization. Therefore, being of a nature that contributes to "diversity" is a qualification in itself. The idea is associated with research such as this:

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In my opinion the results do not provide sufficient evidence to conclude that "racial diversity" improves complex thinking but I think the authors certainly try to act as though they did. To me it's part of a larger problem associated with the fact that there is a strong bias towards wanting to believe that racial diversity in and of itself improves outcomes.

Anyway, the idea is that even if a certain person is not as objectively qualified for a position by normal standards they are indeed objectively qualified because they contribute to the "diversity" that makes the organization more effective. To me it's total gobbledygook. But I think that's what's going on.

Cluck U wrote:If you force diversity, as many places are these days, in the end, you leave out qualified white males. It is discrimination. There is no other way around it.

Skjellyfetti wrote: ... But, "government mandated diversity" would include things like Brown vs. Board, Little Rock vs. Arkansas, Civil Rights Act, etc.... right?

Wrong.

Pwns wrote:Civil rights laws = equality of opportunity
diversity programs = equality of outcome

The question is should the government level the playing field through civil rights laws so that people can choose their own paths and rise or fall based upon their own choices or should the government mandate diversity through holdbacks and quotas and guarantee that we will all reach the same plateau through government dictate?

The rest of the world has tried this and it has not worked. They are trending back from a government controlled out come toward capitalism and individual freedom.

Why do we want to go in the opposite direction?

citdog wrote:

89Hen wrote:Webb is a fucking GENIUS! He'd also like to keep women out of the workforce and in the kitchen.

WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID.

JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:

89Hen wrote: He's a known sexist. The fact that he got elected really baffled me.

I believe Hen is confused. There was some controversy around our governor, Bob McDonnell about a thesis he wrote promoting the belief that many families would be better served with a stay-at-home mom vice the added income from a career. Never heard of Webb in any sort of issue like that, though.

However, to be fair, Webb is an absolute piece of **** who campaigned on his military record and "independence from special interest groups". He has voted lock step with Reid on all major Dem initiatives. He is only reaching across the aisle (guns rights, too) lately because the majority of Virginians hate him. He is our own little version of a democratic John McCain, and will hopefully have a very short career.

Generally speaking, from what I have observed, Webb votes his conscience in most things. I can respect that. I don't agree with him on several issues, but for the most part I respect him as a Senator.

He may have run on his military record, but he, above others, has a right to. He is one of the most decorated Marines of the Vietnam War.

If you want a look into how Webb perceives himself you might want to take a look at one of his books, called "Born Fighting: The Scots-Irish in America".