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They say things happen in threes:

- Heard on the radio that the most famous/exclusive restaurant in Philly - LeBecFin, is closin its doors due to the economy. People just don't go out to spend more than $100 per person in droves anymore. They've substantially lowered their prices, but the owner is closing it in favor of newer restaurants.

- I got a telemarketing call from the Philadelphia Eagles, saying they had both season tickets & individual games available, the catch was, they are club seats.

- After I got the call from the Eagles, I remembered I missed the Ravens public on-sale date last Friday. For almost every game they have seats available on TicketMaster, but they're club seats, it'd be a $500+ day.

Did you happen to flip past the Brickyard 400 yesterday on ESPN? If that place was even half full, I'm a Rhodes Scholar.

Eh, Le Bec Fin's best days were long behind her. In a city with some real top-notch dining (and Philly is a vastly underrated city in that regard - loads of great restaurants in the city) Le Bec Fin was just a name anymore.

But the actual point (people are spending less and less out there) is very valid.

93henfan wrote:Did you happen to flip past the Brickyard 400 yesterday on ESPN? If that place was even half full, I'm a Rhodes Scholar.

I did & couldn't believe it. Turn 4 & that start/finish straightaway looked pretty full, but the rest of the way around was definitely less than half full.

I think I may get tickets for my boys next year in Dover - should be able to get good seats & the traffic jams should be less than previous years.

bluehenbillk wrote:

93henfan wrote:Did you happen to flip past the Brickyard 400 yesterday on ESPN? If that place was even half full, I'm a Rhodes Scholar.

I did & couldn't believe it. Turn 4 & that start/finish straightaway looked pretty full, but the rest of the way around was definitely less than half full.

I think I may get tickets for my boys next year in Dover - should be able to get good seats & the traffic jams should be less than previous years.

There were empty seats even where I sit (top row start/finish line) at the Spring race. In fact, there was a group of fisherman from Long Island that bought from the folks that have sat right in front of us since I was in kindergarten. I estimate Dover had under 80K at the Spring race (capacity 140K+), regardless of what they reported (if they even reported attendance).

You should be able to get in much easier. The police have gotten much better at controlling Rt 1 flow the past few years. The race is also a few weeks earlier now, which significantly cuts down on Sunday evening beach traffic.

bluehenbillk wrote:They say things happen in threes:

- Heard on the radio that the most famous/exclusive restaurant in Philly - LeBecFin, is closin its doors due to the economy. People just don't go out to spend more than $100 per person in droves anymore. They've substantially lowered their prices, but the owner is closing it in favor of newer restaurants.

- I got a telemarketing call from the Philadelphia Eagles, saying they had both season tickets & individual games available, the catch was, they are club seats.

- After I got the call from the Eagles, I remembered I missed the Ravens public on-sale date last Friday. For almost every game they have seats available on TicketMaster, but they're club seats, it'd be a $500+ day.

I keep getting this recurring voicemail from the Redskins, telling me I'm now eligible to purchase season tickets. Too bad I live a few thousand mile away from their home games.

93henfan wrote:

bluehenbillk wrote:
I did & couldn't believe it. Turn 4 & that start/finish straightaway looked pretty full, but the rest of the way around was definitely less than half full.

I think I may get tickets for my boys next year in Dover - should be able to get good seats & the traffic jams should be less than previous years.

There were empty seats even where I sit (top row start/finish line) at the Spring race. In fact, there was a group of fisherman from Long Island that bought from the folks that have sat right in front of us since I was in kindergarten. I estimate Dover had under 80K at the Spring race (capacity 140K+), regardless of what they reported (if they even reported attendance).

You should be able to get in much easier. The police have gotten much better at controlling Rt 1 flow the past few years. The race is also a few weeks earlier now, which significantly cuts down on Sunday evening beach traffic.

I've been wanting to go for a while and maybe this is the year. BTW, if you order tix online, use the coupon code "sunoco" and you can get half price.

89Hen wrote:

93henfan wrote:
There were empty seats even where I sit (top row start/finish line) at the Spring race. In fact, there was a group of fisherman from Long Island that bought from the folks that have sat right in front of us since I was in kindergarten. I estimate Dover had under 80K at the Spring race (capacity 140K+), regardless of what they reported (if they even reported attendance).

You should be able to get in much easier. The police have gotten much better at controlling Rt 1 flow the past few years. The race is also a few weeks earlier now, which significantly cuts down on Sunday evening beach traffic.

I've been wanting to go for a while and maybe this is the year. BTW, if you order tix online, use the coupon code "sunoco" and you can get half price.

Tickets have never been easier to get. They've pushed the Dover races further away from summer (and high demand) this year. The races used to be first week of June and middle of September. Now they've moved the Dover races to middle of May and last weekend of September. I'd say the writing is on the wall that Dover may be one of the tracks that gets a race squeezed.

As some of you may or may not know, NASCAR is pretty much run by two major track syndicates, ISC and SMI, and Dover is owned by neither, so it's basically becoming a NASCAR bastard track, unfortunately. The two syndicates want more races at their tracks. Just yesterday, Brian France hinted that ISC will get an extra race at Kansas and SMI will get an extra date at Las Vegas and a first ever date at Kentucky next year. That means three existing tracks lose a race.

ISC owns: California, Chicagoland, Darlington, Daytona, Homestead, Kansas, Martinsville, Michigan, Phoenix, Richmond, Talladega, and Watkins Glen (also acquired Rockingham and shut it down, the bastards)

SMI owns: Atlanta, Bristol, Sonoma, Kentucky, Las Vegas, Charlotte, New Hampshire, and Texas (also acquired North Wilkesboro and shut it down, the bastards)

That leaves Dover, Pocono, and Indy as the only lone wolves.

'93, is that McBride in your avatar?

Cluck U wrote:'93, is that McBride in your avatar?

Yessir. I was gonna do Maddox, but his hat wouldn't fit in the allotted frame.