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Boehner & Co. are a fucking joke, just as big a joke as Democrats.

UNHWildCats wrote:

Boehner & Co. are a fucking joke, just as big a joke as Democrats.

As opposed to creating more wealth via higher taxes for our government to spend on worthless foks who don't or won't work or can't use a (free via Dept of Health) condom? Sorry, but I'd rather the rich get it. Great, tax the ultra-rich (income over 1mil maybe), but a $250k threshold for higher taxes is ignorant...$250k combined household is not "rich"....

When is the last time a poor person started a business that created a hand full of paying jobs?

andy7171 wrote:When is the last time a poor person started a business that created a hand full of paying jobs?

so everyone making over $250,000 is a small business owner?

UNHWildCats wrote:

Boehner & Co. are a **** joke, just as big a joke as Democrats.

The rich are the ones who hire ppl smart guy

UNHWildCats wrote:

andy7171 wrote:When is the last time a poor person started a business that created a hand full of paying jobs?

so everyone making over $250,000 is a small business owner?

A lot are... my father is one

ming01 wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote:

Boehner & Co. are a **** joke, just as big a joke as Democrats.

The rich are the ones who hire ppl smart guy

Their taxes are low, their wealth is growing, why aren't they creating more jobs?

kalm wrote:

ming01 wrote:
The rich are the ones who hire ppl smart guy

Their taxes are low, their wealth is growing, why aren't they creating more jobs?

It's consumer confidence (or lack thereof) - people want the economy to turn around, but are unsure of their ability to maintain their income so they retrench their spending. Drops in demand lead to a reduction in production, thereby restricting hiring or leading to job cuts. Toss in credit availability issues for good measure too. It's a vicious cycle.

ASUG8 wrote:

kalm wrote:
Their taxes are low, their wealth is growing, why aren't they creating more jobs?

It's consumer confidence (or lack thereof) - people want the economy to turn around, but are unsure of their ability to maintain their income so they retrench their spending. Drops in demand lead to a reduction in production, thereby restricting hiring or leading to job cuts. Toss in credit availability issues for good measure too. It's a vicious cycle.

I'm not talking about people, I'm talking about the rich.

kalm wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
It's consumer confidence (or lack thereof) - people want the economy to turn around, but are unsure of their ability to maintain their income so they retrench their spending. Drops in demand lead to a reduction in production, thereby restricting hiring or leading to job cuts. Toss in credit availability issues for good measure too. It's a vicious cycle.

I'm not talking about people, I'm talking about the rich.

Yes, he talking about the rich. Because it's the rich's job to create unnecessary jobs to prop up the unemployable in the country.

Oh, wait. I thought that was the Federal Government's job?

kalm wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
It's consumer confidence (or lack thereof) - people want the economy to turn around, but are unsure of their ability to maintain their income so they retrench their spending. Drops in demand lead to a reduction in production, thereby restricting hiring or leading to job cuts. Toss in credit availability issues for good measure too. It's a vicious cycle.

I'm not talking about people, I'm talking about the rich.

1. You likely don't become rich by being an idiot unless it's inherited or you're a member of the lucky sperm club
2. Non-Idiots don't go hire a bunch of people willy nilly unless there's demand for the product or service they provide lest they become less rich
3. Job creation is a natural result of basic Econ, supply and demand
4. Prop up consumer confidence somehow and you restore economic growth
5. Tax the piss out of the people or companies that create said jobs and you douse what little flicker is left in this economy.

ASUG8 wrote:

kalm wrote:
I'm not talking about people, I'm talking about the rich.

1. You likely don't become rich by being an idiot unless it's inherited or you're a member of the lucky sperm club
2. Non-Idiots don't go hire a bunch of people willy nilly unless there's demand for the product or service they provide lest they become less rich
3. Job creation is a natural result of basic Econ, supply and demand
4. Prop up consumer confidence somehow and you restore economic growth
5. Tax the piss out of the people or companies that create said jobs and you douse what little flicker is left in this economy.

How do you prop up consumer confidence if the rich aren't hiring?

kalm wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
1. You likely don't become rich by being an idiot unless it's inherited or you're a member of the lucky sperm club
2. Non-Idiots don't go hire a bunch of people willy nilly unless there's demand for the product or service they provide lest they become less rich
3. Job creation is a natural result of basic Econ, supply and demand
4. Prop up consumer confidence somehow and you restore economic growth
5. Tax the piss out of the people or companies that create said jobs and you douse what little flicker is left in this economy.

How do you prop up consumer confidence if the rich aren't hiring?

Why should the rich hire just to prop up consumer confidence?

AZGrizFan wrote:

kalm wrote:
How do you prop up consumer confidence if the rich aren't hiring?

Why should the rich hire just to prop up consumer confidence?

Exactly, they shouldn't. They should hold on to their wealth while the country crumbles. They'll entrench their power and end up the winners. Woooohoooo!

kalm wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Why should the rich hire just to prop up consumer confidence?

Exactly, they shouldn't. They should hold on to their wealth while the country crumbles. They'll entrench their power and end up the winners. Woooohoooo!

It's not the rich segment's job to be benevolent.

You don't get rich by being stupid. You get "progressive".

AZGrizFan wrote:

kalm wrote:
Exactly, they shouldn't. They should hold on to their wealth while the country crumbles. They'll entrench their power and end up the winners. Woooohoooo!

It's not the rich segment's job to be benevolent.

You don't get rich by being stupid. You get "progressive".

Spoken like a true neo-feudalist.

kalm wrote:

ming01 wrote:
The rich are the ones who hire ppl smart guy

Their taxes are low, their wealth is growing, why aren't they creating more jobs?

Because they are afraid to hire right now with all of the gov't regulations, Obama Care, Bush Tax Cuts expiring...

kalm wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
1. You likely don't become rich by being an idiot unless it's inherited or you're a member of the lucky sperm club
2. Non-Idiots don't go hire a bunch of people willy nilly unless there's demand for the product or service they provide lest they become less rich
3. Job creation is a natural result of basic Econ, supply and demand
4. Prop up consumer confidence somehow and you restore economic growth
5. Tax the piss out of the people or companies that create said jobs and you douse what little flicker is left in this economy.

How do you prop up consumer confidence if the rich aren't hiring?

Why should anyone create a tenuous job that will likely be eliminated because there are no orders? Is having a job where you aren't busy comforting, making you confident enough to go out and start consuming again? There are lots of folks who have been in their jobs for a long time that are hanging on for dear life to ride this thing out.

ming01 wrote:

kalm wrote:
Their taxes are low, their wealth is growing, why aren't they creating more jobs?

Because they are afraid to hire right now with all of the gov't regulations, Obama Care, Bush Tax Cuts expiring...

And all the unknown regulations that are coming like cap and tax.

History will record the Obama administration as the best ever to grace our nation's highest offices. He is an activist president and has accomplished much more good already in 1/4 the time his predecessor did in eight loser years. He's done more good for the entire nation than that bumbling dork Reagan could ever have dreamed of doing.

Conkunism is dying a slow death at the hands of their radical factions of haters and Nazi-types.

God bless Obama!!!

Cap'n Cat wrote:History will record the Obama administration as the best ever to grace our nation's highest offices. He is an activist president and has accomplished much more good already in 1/4 the time his predecessor did in eight loser years. He's done more good for the entire nation than that bumbling dork Reagan could ever have dreamed of doing.

Conkunism is dying a slow death at the hands of their radical factions of haters and Nazi-types.

God bless Obama!!!

Obama isn't doing anything, congress is the author, and Obama signs on. He's about as useless running this country as John McCain would have been.

Gil Dobie wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:History will record the Obama administration as the best ever to grace our nation's highest offices. He is an activist president and has accomplished much more good already in 1/4 the time his predecessor did in eight loser years. He's done more good for the entire nation than that bumbling dork Reagan could ever have dreamed of doing.

Conkunism is dying a slow death at the hands of their radical factions of haters and Nazi-types.

God bless Obama!!!

Obama isn't doing anything, congress is the author, and Obama signs on. He's about as useless running this country as John McCain would have been.

Better be careful, Gil, people might see you as what you really are, an ardent Conk apologist dork.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Obama isn't doing anything, congress is the author, and Obama signs on. He's about as useless running this country as John McCain would have been.

Better be careful, Gil, people might see you as what you really are, an ardent Conk apologist dork.

No, I'm a Hawkeye fan.

Cap'n Cat wrote:History will record the Obama administration as the best ever to grace our nation's highest offices. He is an activist president and has accomplished much more good already in 1/4 the time his predecessor did in eight loser years. He's done more good for the entire nation than that bumbling dork Reagan could ever have dreamed of doing.

Conkunism is dying a slow death at the hands of their radical factions of haters and Nazi-types.

God bless Obama!!!

I know funny and that is funny

AZGrizFan wrote:

kalm wrote:
Exactly, they shouldn't. They should hold on to their wealth while the country crumbles. They'll entrench their power and end up the winners. Woooohoooo!

It's not the rich segment's job to be benevolent.

You don't get rich by being stupid. You get "progressive".

The Rich Are Not Here to Give Us Jobs

Let's cut the baloney about jobs and rich people's taxes. If corporate profits automatically turned into jobs for the little folk, the unemployment rate would be plummeting.

It happens that company earnings now exceed their lofty peaks of the housing boom. And big-business balance sheets are sloshing in cash. Corporate America's decision to stick with its current workforce is not for a lack of dough.

Companies don't create jobs because they have extra money jingling in their pockets. They take on new workers when they want to expand, and right now the demand's not there to warrant that growth. Corporations are in the business of maximizing profits for the benefit of their managers and shareholders. They're not in the business of creating jobs, nor should we expect them to be.

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