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AZGrizFan wrote:I love Ronald Reagan's line: "To say they're spending like drunken sailors is unfair to drunken sailors. At least the drunken sailor is spending his OWN money..."
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I can see how facts like these are hard to defend for you donks.Cap'n Cat wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:I love Ronald Reagan's line: "To say they're spending like drunken sailors is unfair to drunken sailors. At least the drunken sailor is spending his OWN money..."
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Mmmmmm....sure. Perhaps we should pass the bill, and then we can figure out what's in it?Cap'n Cat wrote:Jeez, show us something with facts, dude. Sure ain't that exercise in exaggeration and silliness!
andy7171 wrote:It's like Michael Moore changed sides. I don't think this will be up for any Academy Awards though.
Cap'n Cat wrote:It's satire, as much of Moore's sh*t is. Conks have a sense of humor. Who'da thought???
And, BTW, STEPHEN Moore IS God.
I like Moore - dude can be straight up funny. I just dislike the calling of his stuff "documentaries" - there's very little objectiveness in what he does (not that there's anything wrong with that) - no sense pretending that he's trying to be objective.Cap'n Cat wrote:It's satire, as much of Moore's sh*t is. Conks have a sense of humor. Who'da thought???
And, BTW, Moore IS God.
The problem is that YOU see that. I see that. Anyone with a BRAINSTEM sees that. But 90% of mainstream donks think his shit is the gospel....much like AlGore's Inconvenient Halftruths....GannonFan wrote:I like Moore - dude can be straight up funny. I just dislike the calling of his stuff "documentaries" - there's very little objectiveness in what he does (not that there's anything wrong with that) - no sense pretending that he's trying to be objective.Cap'n Cat wrote:It's satire, as much of Moore's sh*t is. Conks have a sense of humor. Who'da thought???
And, BTW, Moore IS God.
I like Stephen Moore, he's been a regular on Real Time with Bill Maher. It's funny to watch his economics get destroyed by a comedian.Ivytalk wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:It's satire, as much of Moore's sh*t is. Conks have a sense of humor. Who'da thought???
And, BTW, STEPHEN Moore IS God.
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AZGrizFan wrote:I love Ronald Reagan's line: "To say they're spending like drunken sailors is unfair to drunken sailors. At least the drunken sailor is spending his OWN money..."
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Rubbish, as usual. Maher couldn't pass Economics 101 if he had it force-fed through his considerable proboscis.kalm wrote:I like Stephen Moore, he's been a regular on Real Time with Bill Maher. It's funny to watch his economics get destroyed by a comedian.Ivytalk wrote:
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We're experiencing Moore's economics as we speak.Ivytalk wrote:Rubbish, as usual. Maher couldn't pass Economics 101 if he had it force-fed through his considerable proboscis.kalm wrote:
I like Stephen Moore, he's been a regular on Real Time with Bill Maher. It's funny to watch his economics get destroyed by a comedian.
Ivytalk wrote:Rubbish, as usual. Maher couldn't pass Economics 101 if he had it force-fed through his considerable proboscis.kalm wrote:
I like Stephen Moore, he's been a regular on Real Time with Bill Maher. It's funny to watch his economics get destroyed by a comedian.
IF only unemployment could be selective and ONLY unemploy republicans, you'd have your perfect scenario wouldn't you?mrklean wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:I love Ronald Reagan's line: "To say they're spending like drunken sailors is unfair to drunken sailors. At least the drunken sailor is spending his OWN money..."
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Unemployed Repuks have all the time in the world to do crap like this...............................lol
GET A JOB!!!
I wouldn't expect you to get it Native but at least some former supply siders have seen the light.native wrote:Ivytalk wrote:
Rubbish, as usual. Maher couldn't pass Economics 101 if he had it force-fed through his considerable proboscis.
Michael Moore
Stephen Moore
Bill Maher
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ma ... 1906/83512" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Stockman was once the arch-priest of supply-side economics, but he's had a conversion over the years. In a piece blasting the legacy of Republican economic policy entitled "The Four Deformations of the Apocalypse" Stockman essentially argues that Reaganomics evolved into a policy that fused the worst aspects of the traditional economic strategies of both the right and the left:
Republicans used to believe that prosperity depended upon the regular balancing of accounts — in government, in international trade, on the ledgers of central banks and in the financial affairs of private households and businesses, too. But the new catechism, as practiced by Republican policymakers for decades now, has amounted to little more than money printing and deficit finance — vulgar Keynesianism robed in the ideological vestments of the prosperous classes... This approach has not simply made a mockery of traditional party ideals. It has also led to the serial financial bubbles and Wall Street depredations that have crippled our economy.
The line about "Keynesianism robed in the ideological vestments of the prosperous classes" is a truth that is both brutally accurate and unfortunately a little too subtle for the Tea Partiers and disaffected Republicans who ought naturally to be struck by it with the most violence. Stockman here is on to a basic truth about the direction in which the economy has evolved in the last decades: a seemingly endless campaign of reckless borrowing and money-printing, undertaken with the aim of propping up an Atlas class whose prosperity under Randian/Greenspanian dogma must be guaranteed at all costs. This goes far beyond the original supply-side thinking of cutting taxes to give the employer class an incentive to create jobs. Instead, this is a welfare state on crack, indulging in massive public borrowing to fuel what Stockman calls the "vast, unproductive expansion of our financial sector." He goes on:
Here, Republicans have been oblivious to the grave danger of flooding financial markets with freely printed money and, at the same time, removing traditional restrictions on leverage and speculation. As a result, the combined assets of conventional banks and the so-called shadow banking system (including investment banks and finance companies) grew from a mere $500 billion in 1970 to $30 trillion by September 2008.
But the trillion-dollar conglomerates that inhabit this new financial world are not free enterprises. They are rather wards of the state, extracting billions from the economy with a lot of pointless speculation in stocks, bonds, commodities and derivatives. They could never have survived, much less thrived, if their deposits had not been government-guaranteed and if they hadn’t been able to obtain virtually free money from the Fed’s discount window to cover their bad bets.
Klueless Kalm Quoteskalm wrote:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ma ... 1906/83512" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Stockman was once the arch-priest of supply-side economics, but he's had a conversion over the years. In a piece blasting the legacy of Republican economic policy...But the new catechism, as practiced by Republican policymakers for decades now, has amounted to little more than money printing and deficit finance — vulgar Keynesianism robed in the ideological vestments of the prosperous classes... This approach has not simply made a mockery of traditional party ideals. It has also led to the serial financial bubbles and Wall Street depredations that have crippled our economy.
Kudos to you and David Stockman, kalm. You got it partially right, NOT about Reaganomics, the Tea Partry, or supply side theory, but about how Reaganomics has been co-opted and mutilited by big government and big spenders.kalm wrote:...I wouldn't expect you to get it Native but at least some former supply siders have seen the light.
Stockman was once the arch-priest of supply-side economics, but he's had a conversion over the years. In a piece blasting the legacy of Republican economic policy entitled "The Four Deformations of the Apocalypse" Stockman essentially argues that Reaganomics evolved into a policy that fused the worst aspects of the traditional economic strategies of both the right and the left ...
You can't make the same statement about capitalism?blueballs wrote:"The problem with socialiism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."- Mike Huckabee
No truer words ever spoken.
No, kalm, but thanks for sharing that little insight into your misunderstanding of capitalism, free enterprise, and wealth creation.kalm wrote:You can't make the same statement about capitalism?blueballs wrote:"The problem with socialiism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."- Mike Huckabee
No truer words ever spoken.
blueballs wrote:"The problem with socialiism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."- Mike Huckabee
No truer words ever spoken.