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From STRATFOR:

"...a reliable source in Mexico informed us that the Sept. 30 shooting death of U.S. citizen David Hartley on Falcon Lake — which straddles the U.S.-Mexico border — was a mistake committed by a low-level member of the Los Zetas drug trafficking organization. The source also informed us that those responsible for Hartley’s death are believed to have disposed of his body and that the Zeta hierarchy was conducting a damage-control operation to punish those responsible for the death and to distance the cartel from the murder. The source further reported that the murder of the lead Tamaulipas state investigator on the case, Rolando Armando Flores Villegas — whose head was delivered in a suitcase to the Mexican military’s Eight Zone headquarters in Reynosa on Oct. 12 — was a specific message from Los Zetas to Mexican authorities to back off from the investigation...."

One of those that didn't make sense as originally reported.

Of everything theory that came across, this is the one that makes the most sense.

There is a popular birding area just downriver from Falcon Lake. When I was there a 18 months ago, I asked the caretakers (couple from Michigan) if they were afraid living so close to the border (literally in sight of the Rio Grande). They replied no, that the drug smugglers wanted nothing to do with even the HINT of harming American tourists - because that was the surest way to draw more law enforcement attention to the area.

I am sure that those who killed Hartley are already dead themselves, or being tortured to make sure that all parties responsible are known.

dbackjon wrote:One of those that didn't make sense as originally reported.

Of everything theory that came across, this is the one that makes the most sense.

There is a popular birding area just downriver from Falcon Lake. When I was there a 18 months ago, I asked the caretakers (couple from Michigan) if they were afraid living so close to the border (literally in sight of the Rio Grande). They replied no, that the drug smugglers wanted nothing to do with even the HINT of harming American tourists - because that was the surest way to draw more law enforcement attention to the area.

I am sure that those who killed Hartley are already dead themselves, or being tortured to make sure that all parties responsible are known.

Agreed.

dbackjon wrote:I am sure that those who killed Hartley are already dead themselves, or being tortured to make sure that all parties responsible are known.

The U.S. should intervene to ensure they're provided due process and their human rights are protected.

travelinman67 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:I am sure that those who killed Hartley are already dead themselves, or being tortured to make sure that all parties responsible are known.

The U.S. should intervene to ensure they're provided due process and their human rights are protected.

Maybe we should send in the SEALS to do so???

I wood be happy to comfort his widow, who is moving this way as I post.

native wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:
The U.S. should intervene to ensure they're provided due process and their human rights are protected.

Maybe we should send in the SEALS to do so???

...was thinkin' more along the line of Gloria Allred.

travelinman67 wrote:

native wrote:
Maybe we should send in the SEALS to do so???

...was thinkin' more along the line of Gloria Allred.

What a great idea! But she should not go alone! It would probably take thousands of bleeding heart idiots to get the job done...

...and after the drug lords kill the idiots, the SEALS could go in and kill the drug lords.

Then we could issue a stern warning to the SEALS that they were naughty boys.

native wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:
...was thinkin' more along the line of Gloria Allred.

What a great idea! But she should not go alone! It would probably take thousands of bleeding heart idiots to get the job done...

...and after the drug lords kill the idiots, the SEALS could go in and kill the drug lords.

Then we could issue a stern warning to the SEALS that they were naughty boys.

I am shocked that you didn't suggest a Jonestown-style Congressional investigation, headed by Nancy Pelosi...

Mexicans are, by and large, the coolest people on this continent.

dbackjon wrote:One of those that didn't make sense as originally reported.

Of everything theory that came across, this is the one that makes the most sense.

There is a popular birding area just downriver from Falcon Lake. When I was there a 18 months ago, I asked the caretakers (couple from Michigan) if they were afraid living so close to the border (literally in sight of the Rio Grande). They replied no, that the drug smugglers wanted nothing to do with even the HINT of harming American tourists - because that was the surest way to draw more law enforcement attention to the area.

I am sure that those who killed Hartley are already dead themselves, or being tortured to make sure that all parties responsible are known.

Yeah. No doubt.

dbackjon wrote:

native wrote:
What a great idea! But she should not go alone! It would probably take thousands of bleeding heart idiots to get the job done...

...and after the drug lords kill the idiots, the SEALS could go in and kill the drug lords.

Then we could issue a stern warning to the SEALS that they were naughty boys.

I am shocked that you didn't suggest a Jonestown-style Congressional investigation, headed by Nancy Pelosi...

Great idea, jon! See what we can do when we work together?

native wrote:

dbackjon wrote:
I am shocked that you didn't suggest a Jonestown-style Congressional investigation, headed by Nancy Pelosi...

Great idea, jon! See what we can do when we work together?

Who ever said bipartisanship was done?

Cap'n Cat wrote:Mexicans are, by and large, the coolest people on this continent.

Except for the Canadians. Eh?

Ivytalk wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:Mexicans are, by and large, the coolest people on this continent.

Except for the Canadians. Eh?

Beeeen there, done that, yah?

native wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:
The U.S. should intervene to ensure they're provided due process and their human rights are protected.

Maybe we should send in the SEALS to do so???

Too much firepower. That's the problem with all that gee-whiz training - once they're spotted a 25 cent bullet kills them just as dead.