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Cablevision customers have been without FOX for nearly two weeks now. Football and baseball fans have missed games and their favorite FOX shows, but who is to blame?

Today Cablevison offered FOX a new offer for 1 year that would make the retransmission fee FOX would get higher than all other NYC affiliates that Cablevision carries, FOX turned down the offer and fans in NYC and Philadelphia who use Cablevision can't see game 1 of the World Series.

How greedy is FOX being? Already offered the highest fee of all NYC affiliates for programming viewers can access for free if they own a digital TV and an antennae? I dont understand how networks can get away with what they are doing. The government gave the airways to them for free and now they sit here taking it away from the people over greed for something we can access for free?

UNHWildCats wrote:Cablevision customers have been without FOX for nearly two weeks now. Football and baseball fans have missed games and their favorite FOX shows, but who is to blame?

Today Cablevison offered FOX a new offer for 1 year that would make the retransmission fee FOX would get higher than all other NYC affiliates that Cablevision carries, FOX turned down the offer and fans in NYC and Philadelphia who use Cablevision can't see game 1 of the World Series.

How greedy is FOX being? Already offered the highest fee of all NYC affiliates for programming viewers can access for free if they own a digital TV and an antennae? I dont understand how networks can get away with what they are doing. The government gave the airways to them for free and now they sit here taking it away from the people over greed for something we can access for free?

Fox is doing NY and Phila a favor. Nobody in those cities wants to see the World Series this year anyway.

How many people in Philadelphia have Cablevision anyway? If the ginormous sign inside the Flyers/Sixers arena (whatever bank names it this year) is any indication, Philadelphia is COMCAST COUNTRY!

The tallest building in Philly is now the COMCAST CENTER!!!

Cablevison is just as greedy as Fox. They're both a bunch of asses.

But Cablevision is reimbursing anyone that wants to watch the World Series online at MLB.com which is pretty cool.


Although as someone mentioned above - who gives a crap about the World Series this year?

danefan wrote:Cablevison is just as greedy as Fox. They're both a bunch of asses.

But Cablevision is reimbursing anyone that wants to watch the World Series online at MLB.com which is pretty cool.


Although as someone mentioned above - who gives a crap about the World Series this year?

Yeah, it's a real shame that the richest teams in each league didn't make it this year.

UNHWildCats wrote:Cablevision customers have been without FOX for nearly two weeks now. Football and baseball fans have missed games and their favorite FOX shows, but who is to blame?

Today Cablevison offered FOX a new offer for 1 year that would make the retransmission fee FOX would get higher than all other NYC affiliates that Cablevision carries, FOX turned down the offer and fans in NYC and Philadelphia who use Cablevision can't see game 1 of the World Series.

How greedy is FOX being? Already offered the highest fee of all NYC affiliates for programming viewers can access for free if they own a digital TV and an antennae? I dont understand how networks can get away with what they are doing. The government gave the airways to them for free and now they sit here taking it away from the people over greed for something we can access for free?

Free? No, the government auctions off airwave rights, and they make a fortune doing so...

Baldy wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote:Cablevision customers have been without FOX for nearly two weeks now. Football and baseball fans have missed games and their favorite FOX shows, but who is to blame?

Today Cablevison offered FOX a new offer for 1 year that would make the retransmission fee FOX would get higher than all other NYC affiliates that Cablevision carries, FOX turned down the offer and fans in NYC and Philadelphia who use Cablevision can't see game 1 of the World Series.

How greedy is FOX being? Already offered the highest fee of all NYC affiliates for programming viewers can access for free if they own a digital TV and an antennae? I dont understand how networks can get away with what they are doing. The government gave the airways to them for free and now they sit here taking it away from the people over greed for something we can access for free?

Free? No, the government auctions off airwave rights, and they make a fortune doing so...

AshevilleApp wrote:

Baldy wrote: Free? No, the government auctions off airwave rights, and they make a fortune doing so...

Want me to tell you how much? I'm awarding contracts with spectrum relocation auction funds as we speak...

93henfan wrote:

AshevilleApp wrote:

Want me to tell you how much? I'm awarding contracts with spectrum relocation auction funds as we speak...

I wrote the draft of an article on spectrum auctions and how the FCC is singlehandidly keeping us in the 3rd world of internet access........but when I finished I realized no one would give a shit.......so I wrote a different article on the municipalities offering free wifi. Same idea, different focus.

[rant]

BTW - there are hundreds of companies that are willing to blanket the entire naton with high speed wireless interet for little or no cost to all Americans............if they could only afford to buy the spectrum needed to do it. Instead the Telecoms and their FCC cronies play the "auction game" and keep a firm grip on the airwaves and on our wallets.

And when I say high speed - I mean really fast. Faster than anything we can access now on the residential market.

[end rant]

AshevilleApp wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Want me to tell you how much? I'm awarding contracts with spectrum relocation auction funds as we speak...

Everything you want to know is here: http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/defaul ... tions_home" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They divied up the latest SRF among several agencies. My little cut of it was around $40M.

Danefan, you also need to look at it from the government side. Every time we give away spectrum, we have to try to fit all of our comms into a smaller portion of it. This is becoming increasingly difficult. The government wants to give what it can to industry, but we're walking a fine line with giving up too much. If you read many of the articles, and it sounds like you have, you know that the spectrum we are auctioning away is like beachfront property. Don't kid yourself. The winners of these auctions are turning their new piece of the pie into huge profits. Uncle Sam is not hurting anyone.

93henfan wrote:Danefan, you also need to look at it from the government side. Every time we give away spectrum, we have to try to fit all of our comms into a smaller portion of it. This is becoming increasingly difficult. The government wants to give what it can to industry, but we're walking a fine line with giving up too much. If you read many of the articles, and it sounds like you have, you know that the spectrum we are auctioning away is like beachfront property. Don't kid yourself. The winners of these auctions are turning their new piece of the pie into huge profits. Uncle Sam is not hurting anyone.

That is defeinitely a key consideration in the back and forth on this subject, especially post-9/11 where our emergecny response communications essentially failed in New York because of this issue.

But the technology actually exists to free up a lot of the spectrum the Feds need. For one, the vast spectrum used for broadcast TV would become obsolete. All media could instead operate through the new wireless system and would be accessible to everyone. Accessibility is the only reason broadcast TV still exists. Additionally, the nationwide wireless system could be used for most local government comms (e.g. police, fire, EMS computer systems and radio could all run on that spectrum) and could be "nationalized" in a time of crisis so that one uniform message is sent out to all residents.

There are a ton of competing interests here but the one that consistently wins is the big corporate telecoms, which, IMO shouldn't exist in the first place.