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Wikileaks
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:45 am
by native
Scott Stewart from STRATFOR draws an intersting conclusion from the Wikileaks case:
"...Instead of seeking to weed out the overclassified material and concentrate on protecting the truly sensitive information, the culture of classification reacts by using the WikiLeaks cases as justification for continuing to classify information at the highest possible levels and for sharing the intelligence it generates with fewer people. The ultimate irony is that the WikiLeaks cases will help strengthen and perpetuate the broken system that helped lead to the disclosures in the first place."
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Re: Wikileaks
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:49 am
by Cap'n Cat
Yawn.
Re: Wikileaks
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:50 am
by Rob Iola
Help me out here - overall, what more have the leaked documents told us that we didn't already pretty much know?
Re: Wikileaks
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:36 pm
by native
Rob Iola wrote:Help me out here - overall, what more have the leaked documents told us that we didn't already pretty much know?
Not much, Rob. But some of the sources and methods were probably compromised, which is a big deal.
Re: Wikileaks
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:55 pm
by SeattleGriz
Rob Iola wrote:Help me out here - overall, what more have the leaked documents told us that we didn't already pretty much know?
Of particular note, Iran is highly involved in opposing the US in the wars. Even though Joe "I'm second in line for the Presidency" Biden has said Iran's role is minimal.
I have thought the Wikileaks have actually strengthened Bush's stance.
Re: Wikileaks
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:44 pm
by dbackjon
native wrote:Scott Stewart from STRATFOR draws an intersting conclusion from the Wikileaks case:
"...Instead of seeking to weed out the overclassified material and concentrate on protecting the truly sensitive information, the culture of classification reacts by using the WikiLeaks cases as justification for continuing to classify information at the highest possible levels and for sharing the intelligence it generates with fewer people. The ultimate irony is that the WikiLeaks cases will help strengthen and perpetuate the broken system that helped lead to the disclosures in the first place."
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20101027 ... aa57597298" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very good point. Military/Spy types would like to Classify EVERYTHING. That is not feasible, never has been, and with today's communication, impossible to achieve.
Re: Wikileaks
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:15 am
by Rob Iola
dbackjon wrote:native wrote:Scott Stewart from STRATFOR draws an intersting conclusion from the Wikileaks case:
"...Instead of seeking to weed out the overclassified material and concentrate on protecting the truly sensitive information, the culture of classification reacts by using the WikiLeaks cases as justification for continuing to classify information at the highest possible levels and for sharing the intelligence it generates with fewer people. The ultimate irony is that the WikiLeaks cases will help strengthen and perpetuate the broken system that helped lead to the disclosures in the first place."
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20101027 ... aa57597298" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very good point. Military/Spy types would like to Classify EVERYTHING. That is not feasible, never has been, and with today's communication, impossible to achieve.
In other words, don't ask, don't tell...
Re: Wikileaks
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:33 am
by houndawg
native wrote:Rob Iola wrote:Help me out here - overall, what more have the leaked documents told us that we didn't already pretty much know?
Not much, Rob. But some of the sources and methods were probably compromised, which is a big deal.
Oh please. Not Valerie Plame again.