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Obama is God, Repub. leaders are the devil, and something with a firing squad.

Got it, just the facts, eh Cappy? Nothing like some good, well thought out, fact based discussion on politics.

Seriously, Cappy, that's just a weak effort. Only one of the photos you provided has a person who is or will be in elected office. Dick Cheyney is lining up for his 30th heart bypass surgery so he's not in power doing anything. Palin's going to keep getting airtime because people click on those stories, but she's not wielding any real power today (she may in the runup to the 2012 election), and the Nazis have been out of power for a good 70 years now and counting.

I actually like the fact that Obama is actually thinking about talking with the Republican leadership in the next few weeks. There might be a little bi-partisan in him after all. Heck, I'd just settle for a guy who actually wants to lead as opposed to the guy who was letting Congress dictate his policies over the past 2 years. Good times are ahead, Cappy, never fear!

GannonFan wrote: I actually like the fact that Obama is actually thinking about talking with the Republican leadership in the next few weeks. There might be a little bi-partisan in him after all. Heck, I'd just settle for a guy who actually wants to lead as opposed to the guy who was letting Congress dictate his policies over the past 2 years. Good times are ahead, Cappy, never fear!

The fact the repub's got the house might actually require Obama to do some working with both sides. His term could end well, even if it isn't because of Conk policy and is only because the Donks can't push any shit out of their ass that they want.

clenz wrote:

GannonFan wrote: I actually like the fact that Obama is actually thinking about talking with the Republican leadership in the next few weeks. There might be a little bi-partisan in him after all. Heck, I'd just settle for a guy who actually wants to lead as opposed to the guy who was letting Congress dictate his policies over the past 2 years. Good times are ahead, Cappy, never fear!

The fact the repub's got the house might actually require Obama to do some working with both sides. His term could end well, even if it isn't because of Conk policy and is only because the Donks can't push any **** out of their ass that they want.

I agree - I think the worst thing to happen for Obama was the Dems winning the super majority - it gave way too much power to entrenched Washington types like Pelosi and Reid and I think they overwhelmed a really unprepared Obama in the first few years. They just assumed the economy would turn around and they could meanwhile tackle a lot of pet causes in the meantime. I wonder what Obama would've been like had he not had the supermajority in that first year. We may have actually focused on the economy. Hopefully we get to see that now.

GannonFan wrote:Seriously, Cappy, that's just a weak effort. Only one of the photos you provided has a person who is or will be in elected office. Dick Cheyney is lining up for his 30th heart bypass surgery so he's not in power doing anything. Palin's going to keep getting airtime because people click on those stories, but she's not wielding any real power today (she may in the runup to the 2012 election), and the Nazis have been out of power for a good 70 years now and counting.

I actually like the fact that Obama is actually thinking about talking with the Republican leadership in the next few weeks. There might be a little bi-partisan in him after all. Heck, I'd just settle for a guy who actually wants to lead as opposed to the guy who was letting Congress dictate his policies over the past 2 years. Good times are ahead, Cappy, never fear!

I love my country. Just hate gridlock.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Seriously, Cappy, that's just a weak effort. Only one of the photos you provided has a person who is or will be in elected office. Dick Cheyney is lining up for his 30th heart bypass surgery so he's not in power doing anything. Palin's going to keep getting airtime because people click on those stories, but she's not wielding any real power today (she may in the runup to the 2012 election), and the Nazis have been out of power for a good 70 years now and counting.

I actually like the fact that Obama is actually thinking about talking with the Republican leadership in the next few weeks. There might be a little bi-partisan in him after all. Heck, I'd just settle for a guy who actually wants to lead as opposed to the guy who was letting Congress dictate his policies over the past 2 years. Good times are ahead, Cappy, never fear!

I love my country. Just hate gridlock.

Yes, checks and balances suck. Let's scrap Congress and the Supreme Court and let Obamessiah lead with an iron fist.

ToTheLeft wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:



I love my country. Just hate gridlock.

Yes, checks and balances suck. Let's scrap Congress and the Supreme Court and let Obamessiah lead with an iron fist.

You were born too late, son.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Seriously, Cappy, that's just a weak effort. Only one of the photos you provided has a person who is or will be in elected office. Dick Cheyney is lining up for his 30th heart bypass surgery so he's not in power doing anything. Palin's going to keep getting airtime because people click on those stories, but she's not wielding any real power today (she may in the runup to the 2012 election), and the Nazis have been out of power for a good 70 years now and counting.

I actually like the fact that Obama is actually thinking about talking with the Republican leadership in the next few weeks. There might be a little bi-partisan in him after all. Heck, I'd just settle for a guy who actually wants to lead as opposed to the guy who was letting Congress dictate his policies over the past 2 years. Good times are ahead, Cappy, never fear!

I love my country. Just hate gridlock.

Don't fear the gridlock - this country has had plenty of times when parties have shared power so this isn't anything new. And plenty of good things have been done in times when parties share power. Heck, without looking, I'd wager it's better than when a single party controls everything, especially a super majority - I think both parties tend to get too giddy with power and are victims of their own devices. Depending on Obama's skill to lead and the ideas out there, this could be a good gridlock period.

GannonFan wrote:I agree - I think the worst thing to happen for Obama was the Dems winning the super majority - it gave way too much power to entrenched Washington types like Pelosi and Reid and I think they overwhelmed a really unprepared Obama in the first few years.

The first 2 years (actually, the first 21 months).

GannonFan wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:



I love my country. Just hate gridlock.

Don't fear the gridlock - this country has had plenty of times when parties have shared power so this isn't anything new. And plenty of good things have been done in times when parties share power. Heck, without looking, I'd wager it's better than when a single party controls everything, especially a super majority - I think both parties tend to get too giddy with power and are victims of their own devices. Depending on Obama's skill to lead and the ideas out there, this could be a good gridlock period.

We need "doing", not gridlock. This isn't your father's/grandfather's world.

mainejeff wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Don't fear the gridlock - this country has had plenty of times when parties have shared power so this isn't anything new. And plenty of good things have been done in times when parties share power. Heck, without looking, I'd wager it's better than when a single party controls everything, especially a super majority - I think both parties tend to get too giddy with power and are victims of their own devices. Depending on Obama's skill to lead and the ideas out there, this could be a good gridlock period.

We need "doing", not gridlock. This isn't your father's/grandfather's world.

Doing for doing sake didn't get it done in the first 21 months - doing the right thing, as Spike Lee coined, is really the preference. Gridlock doesn't mean nothing gets done, it can mean that things get done after both parties have compromised enough to let something get done. I'll take that almost any day over either party's unobstructed attempts to implement their hearts desire.

Make up your F-Mind, you just said "Jobless Claims Down! Trade Gap Narrows! All Hail Obama!!!! "

Cap'n Cat wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Seriously, Cappy, that's just a weak effort. Only one of the photos you provided has a person who is or will be in elected office. Dick Cheyney is lining up for his 30th heart bypass surgery so he's not in power doing anything. Palin's going to keep getting airtime because people click on those stories, but she's not wielding any real power today (she may in the runup to the 2012 election), and the Nazis have been out of power for a good 70 years now and counting.

I actually like the fact that Obama is actually thinking about talking with the Republican leadership in the next few weeks. There might be a little bi-partisan in him after all. Heck, I'd just settle for a guy who actually wants to lead as opposed to the guy who was letting Congress dictate his policies over the past 2 years. Good times are ahead, Cappy, never fear!

I love my country. Just hate gridlock.

I think the country runs better when both parties have a say, so I think the big winner on Tuesday was the nation.

The Republicans think they are the big winners, and they might be, but only if they don't overplay their hand. Tuesday was more about voters not liking Obama and Pelosi than it was about voters liking the Republicans. If the Conks start thinking and acting as if Tuesday was a referendum on their policies it could backfire. Also, now that the Republicans control the House it will be harder to blame everything on the Democrats if things continue to suck for the next two years.

The Democrats biggest problem is that they have no strategery when it comes to campaigning. Just look at 2004: John Kerry couldn't defend his war record - and he was running against a guy who never faught. The Dems should have run with the message that things are improving. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, say it enough times and people will start to believe it. Instead, they went on the defensive and let the Republicans kick their ass.

The next two years will be very interesting.

GannonFan wrote:

mainejeff wrote:
We need "doing", not gridlock. This isn't your father's/grandfather's world.

Doing for doing sake didn't get it done in the first 21 months - doing the right thing, as Spike Lee coined, is really the preference. Gridlock doesn't mean nothing gets done, it can mean that things get done after both parties have compromised enough to let something get done. I'll take that almost any day over either party's unobstructed attempts to implement their hearts desire.

Compromising for the sake of compromising is as bad as doing for the sake of doing.

mainejeff wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Doing for doing sake didn't get it done in the first 21 months - doing the right thing, as Spike Lee coined, is really the preference. Gridlock doesn't mean nothing gets done, it can mean that things get done after both parties have compromised enough to let something get done. I'll take that almost any day over either party's unobstructed attempts to implement their hearts desire.

Compromising for the sake of compromising is as bad as doing for the sake of doing.

That's just nonsense. I'd almost always take a bipartisan plan that is stripped of the bad elements from both sides rather than take a single party solution that is unfiltered and still has a bunch of crap in it. Sure, we could end up with bipartisan garbage like we had with so much of the Bush years, and that may not be any better than the Dem garbage we had for the last two years, but at least with the compromise option there's a chance that the garbage can be removed. No chance of the garbage being removed when only one party runs the show.

Jeff, let the grown ups handle this. Don't you have a Chucky Cheese to go picket?

89Hen wrote:Jeff, let the grown ups handle this. Don't you have a Chucky Cheese to go picket?

If I were you, I'd pay less attention to Jeff and more attention to the Henette's panties coming home from that catholic school they're attending.

89Hen wrote:Jeff, let the grown ups handle this. Don't you have a Chucky Cheese to go picket?

STFU breeder.

mainejeff wrote:STFU breeder.

Both of us are filling our roles nicely. Me bringing children into the world and teaching them to be valuable members of our society, and you not bringing anything into this world and keeping your grumpy, bigoted, black heart to yourself. Keep up the good work.

89Hen wrote:

mainejeff wrote:STFU breeder.

Both of us are filling our roles nicely. Me bringing children into the world and teaching them to be valuable members of our society, and you not bringing anything into this world and keeping your grumpy, bigoted, black heart to yourself. Keep up the good work.

This, from a deep, dark, racist Catholic, too!!

How fvcking rich!

89Hen wrote:

mainejeff wrote:STFU breeder.

Both of us are filling our roles nicely. Me bringing children into the world and teaching them to be valuable members of our society, and you not bringing anything into this world and keeping your grumpy, bigoted, black heart to yourself. Keep up the good work.

Yes, we are both doing our jobs.........You adding to our tax burden and me supporting your rug rats without adding to our tax burden.

Cap'n Cat wrote:This, from a deep, dark, racist Catholic, too!!

How fvcking rich!

It really pains you that Catholics are probably the LEAST racist group on the planet.

mainejeff wrote:Yes, we are both doing our jobs.........You adding to our tax burden and me supporting your rug rats without adding to our tax burden.

The problem is, my post was 100% correct. Your's is only 33% correct. It is true that you aren't adding to our tax burden, but that's where the truth ends.

89Hen wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:This, from a deep, dark, racist Catholic, too!!

How fvcking rich!

It really pains you that Catholics are probably the LEAST racist group on the planet.

You're right, as always, Brother Hen.

In your world.