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Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:46 pm
by Skjellyfetti
In a bigger shift from his campaign pledge to end earmarks, he tells me that they are a bad "symbol" of easy spending but that he will fight for Kentucky's share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it's doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. "I will advocate for Kentucky's interests," he says.
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Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:05 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
Skjellyfetti wrote:In a bigger shift from his campaign pledge to end earmarks, he tells me that they are a bad "symbol" of easy spending but that he will fight for Kentucky's share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it's doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. "I will advocate for Kentucky's interests," he says.
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So he's saying he will fight against this sort of thing for all states as a union to get rid of it across the board but until that time comes there is a certain amount of money in the kitty that states will be grabbing and he is gonna grab Kentucky's portion until it goes away.
The federal government will still be lining the till with money from Kentucky to hand out so they will stand in line until it goes away correct?
It makes sense to me.
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:08 pm
by native
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
So he's saying he will fight against this sort of thing for all states as a union to get rid of it across the board but until that time comes there is a certain amount of money in the kitty that states will be grabbing and he is gonna grab Kentucky's portion until it goes away.
The federal government will still be lining the till with money from Kentucky to hand out so they will stand in line until it goes away correct?
It makes sense to me.
Yup. Especially if the Congress succeeds in eliminating earmarks this year and reducing the overall budget.
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:42 pm
by Cap'n Cat
native wrote:Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
So he's saying he will fight against this sort of thing for all states as a union to get rid of it across the board but until that time comes there is a certain amount of money in the kitty that states will be grabbing and he is gonna grab Kentucky's portion until it goes away.
The federal government will still be lining the till with money from Kentucky to hand out so they will stand in line until it goes away correct?
It makes sense to me.
Yup. Especially if the Congress succeeds in eliminating earmarks this year and reducing the overall budget.
As long as they cut our bloated military, too.
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:56 pm
by kalm
native wrote:Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
So he's saying he will fight against this sort of thing for all states as a union to get rid of it across the board but until that time comes there is a certain amount of money in the kitty that states will be grabbing and he is gonna grab Kentucky's portion until it goes away.
The federal government will still be lining the till with money from Kentucky to hand out so they will stand in line until it goes away correct?
It makes sense to me.
Yup. Especially if the Congress succeeds in eliminating earmarks this year and reducing the overall budget.
Perhaps they really mean it this time.

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:58 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
kalm wrote:native wrote:
Yup. Especially if the Congress succeeds in eliminating earmarks this year and reducing the overall budget.
Perhaps they really mean it this time.

That's the problem with us kalm, we have a good outlook and we keep hoping for the changes.

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:19 pm
by Skjellyfetti
I'd like to see them force these fuckers hand. If you think the bill is government waste... don't come asking for money from it. Fuck you.
Consequently, unless you change your position, we plan to engage in an orderly transition to wind down Wisconsin's project so that we do not waste taxpayers' money.
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/11/09 ... 87303.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:26 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:I'd like to see them force these fuckers hand. If you think the bill is government waste... don't come asking for money from it. Fuck you.
Consequently, unless you change your position, we plan to engage in an orderly transition to wind down Wisconsin's project so that we do not waste taxpayers' money.
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/11/09 ... 87303.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So, instead of actually maintaining infrastructure that ALREADY exists, they'd rather piss away money on ANOTHER infrastructure system that they then won't have the money to maintain?
Walker, who is currently the county executive of Milwaukee County, campaigned heavily against a proposed high-speed line to link Milwaukee and Madison that would eventually be part of a Midwest network. Decrying the project as a waste of tax dollars, he has called for the cash to be redistributed to highway and bridge repairs in his state.
But LaHood said the stimulus grants must be spent on rail projects.
"None of the money provided to Wisconsin may be used for road or highway projects, or anything other than high-speed rail," LaHood wrote. "Consequently, unless you change your position, we plan to engage in an orderly transition to wind down Wisconsin's project so that we do not waste taxpayers' money."
Makes perfect sense to me, KY...

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:47 pm
by Skjellyfetti
You mean the highways and bridges Wisconsin got $529,000,000 out of the stimulus bill for?
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:52 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:You mean the highways and bridges Wisconsin got $529,000,000 out of the stimulus bill for?
Is it even remotely possible that $529 MM isn't enough?

Have you read all the studies? Do you know the answer to that question? Perhaps the new governor has a tad bit better info than you?
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:30 am
by YoUDeeMan
AZGrizFan wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:You mean the highways and bridges Wisconsin got $529,000,000 out of the stimulus bill for?
Is it even remotely possible that $529 MM isn't enough?

Have you read all the studies? Do you know the answer to that question? Perhaps the new governor has a tad bit better info than you?
jellyboy surely knows what it takes to maintain a highway for his bike.
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:04 am
by Cap'n Cat
AZGrizFan wrote:
So, instead of actually maintaining infrastructure that ALREADY exists, they'd rather piss away money on ANOTHER infrastructure system that they then won't have the money to maintain?
Walker, who is currently the county executive of Milwaukee County, campaigned heavily against a proposed high-speed line to link Milwaukee and Madison that would eventually be part of a Midwest network. Decrying the project as a waste of tax dollars, he has called for the cash to be redistributed to highway and bridge repairs in his state.
But LaHood said the stimulus grants must be spent on rail projects.
"None of the money provided to Wisconsin may be used for road or highway projects, or anything other than high-speed rail," LaHood wrote. "Consequently, unless you change your position, we plan to engage in an orderly transition to wind down Wisconsin's project so that we do not waste taxpayers' money."
Makes perfect sense to me, KY...

What's wildly entertaining about Z and most of his Conk ilk is that they will be the first motherfvckers complaining about the roads we chose not to fix the right way and, instead, band-aided with temporary patches. Especially when boulevard access becomes shitty to their job-exporting multinational corporate palaces in the suburbs, from which they rake in 90% of their campaign cash. A few front end alignments to their Jaguars and Caddys and Porsches and they'll be up in arms about the condition of infrastructure.....again.
No forward thinking, whatsoever, among Conks. Save now, suffer later. Blame it on Dems.

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:10 am
by kalm
It's like watching Nova in the second half of the Chipper last year. When you have something that works that well you don't even need to open the rest of the playbook.
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:12 am
by Cap'n Cat
kalm wrote:
It's like watching Nova in the second half of the Chipper last year. When you have something that works that well you don't even need to open the rest of the playbook.
Spending on infrastructure
makes money, but the payback is too long, sometimes, for the walnut-sized brains of Conks.

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:12 am
by Appaholic
...or maybe it's because as taxes
& government-mandated regulatory fees continue to increase nationwide to support the existing infrastructure, we continue to have to get front-end alignments as we drive to the unemployment office past the sign promoting American Recovery & Re-Investment Act....

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:49 am
by Ivytalk
Rand Paul... just another politician....
Cue Chizzang.
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:19 am
by Cap'n Cat
Appaholic wrote:
...or maybe it's because as taxes
& government-mandated regulatory fees continue to increase nationwide to support the existing infrastructure, we continue to have to get front-end alignments as we drive to the unemployment office past the sign promoting American Recovery & Re-Investment Act....

Man, I ain't disgreein'. Run for office, dude, and change it!
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:37 am
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:You mean the highways and bridges Wisconsin got $529,000,000 out of the stimulus bill for?
Is it even remotely possible that $529 MM isn't enough?

Have you read all the studies? Do you know the answer to that question? Perhaps the new governor has a tad bit better info than you?
I do know that 529 million is more than Wisconsin's biennial budget for the
Department of Transportation for 2009-2011.
Maybe Wisconsin should pull themselves up from the bootstraps and pay for their own infrastructure. That would be the fiscally conservative thing to do, amirite?

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:38 am
by Cap'n Cat
Skjellyfetti wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Is it even remotely possible that $529 MM isn't enough?

Have you read all the studies? Do you know the answer to that question? Perhaps the new governor has a tad bit better info than you?
I do know that 529 million is more than Wisconsin's biennial budget for the
Department of Transportation for 2009-2011.
We gotta get Z to Wisconsin one day.
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:00 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Is it even remotely possible that $529 MM isn't enough?

Have you read all the studies? Do you know the answer to that question? Perhaps the new governor has a tad bit better info than you?
I do know that 529 million is more than Wisconsin's biennial budget for the
Department of Transportation for 2009-2011.
Maybe Wisconsin should pull themselves up from the bootstraps and pay for their own infrastructure. That would be the fiscally conservative thing to do, amirite?

Sure. Lets ask Wisconsin to play by a completely different set of rules than the other 49 states. Just like Rand Paul in Kentucky, they didn't WRITE the rulebook, but they damned sure are allowed to play by it until it's changed for EVERYONE.
And I'm pretty sure that Wisconsin's biennial budget doesn't include repairing EVERY bridge, overpass, freeway, highway, on ramp, etc., etc., etc., that actually NEEDS repair. Most of it goes to salaries of the 8 guys who stand around for every one that works.
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:16 pm
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote:
And I'm pretty sure that Wisconsin's biennial budget doesn't include repairing EVERY bridge, overpass, freeway, highway, on ramp, etc., etc., etc., that actually NEEDS repair. Most of it goes to salaries of the 8 guys who stand around for every one that works.
Sounds like Wisconsin needs to sort out their government waste.

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:34 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
And I'm pretty sure that Wisconsin's biennial budget doesn't include repairing EVERY bridge, overpass, freeway, highway, on ramp, etc., etc., etc., that actually NEEDS repair. Most of it goes to salaries of the 8 guys who stand around for every one that works.
Sounds like Wisconsin needs to sort out their government waste.

That's a bit redundant, isn't it?
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:03 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Senator Jim Inhofe claims that
liberals have brainwashed the public into believing that earmarks are bad.
The problem is the public has been brainwashed into thinking — and a lot of these are the very liberal, uh, members of Congress — into thinking that earmarks are somehow all bad. Well, if you quit saying "earmark" and say "appropriations" then I'll buy it.
Video link here:
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201011100009" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Seems like these hardcore fiscally conservative Republicans love their pork and earmarks.

Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:24 pm
by Ivytalk
Ayn Rand Paul?
Re: Rand Paul will fight for Kentucky's earmarks and pork
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:49 pm
by native
Ivytalk wrote:Ayn Rand Paul?
I once thought he was named after Ayn Rand as well, but his name is Randal.
http://www.ask.com/wiki/Rand_Paul" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;