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Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:48 am
by Cap'n Cat
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/opinion/03tue3.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

More accurately, the "Haliburton Loophole". Saw this on 60 Minutes last night.


Among the many dubious provisions in the 2005 energy bill was one dubbed the Halliburton loophole, which was inserted at the behest of — you guessed it — then-Vice President Dick Cheney, a former chief executive of Halliburton.

It stripped the Environmental Protection Agency of its authority to regulate a drilling process called hydraulic fracturing. Invented by Halliburton in the 1940s, it involves injecting a mixture of water, sand and chemicals, some of them toxic, into underground rock formations to blast them open and release natural gas.

Hydraulic fracturing has been implicated in a growing number of water pollution cases across the country. It has become especially controversial in New York, where regulators are eager to clear the way for drilling in the New York City watershed, potentially imperiling the city’s water supply. Thankfully, the main company involved has now decided not to go ahead.

An even more important bill is waiting in the wings. Cumbersomely named the Fracturing Responsibility and Awareness of Chemicals Act, it would close the loophole and restore the E.P.A.’s rightful authority to regulate hydraulic fracturing. It would also require the oil and gas industry to disclose the chemicals they use.

The industry argues that the chemicals are proprietary secrets and that disclosing them would hurt their competitiveness. It also argues that the process is basically safe and that regulating it would deter domestic production. But if hydraulic fracturing is as safe as the industry says it is, why should it fear regulation?



To rephrase one of Brother Baldy's favorite sayings - Just Conks being Conks.... Protecting corporations from accountability. I'll take 1000 of those mythological welfare queens over one Haliburton-fracked well.

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Discuss.

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Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:08 pm
by andy7171
I love your thread titles Cap'n! :lol:

Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:42 pm
by Ivytalk
Lesley "Haystack Hair" Stahl did that piece.

I much preferred Lovely Lara Logan's segment about the Medal of Honor winner. :nod:

Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:23 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Ivytalk wrote:Lesley "Haystack Hair" Stahl did that piece.

I much preferred Lovely Lara Logan's segment about the Medal of Honor winner. :nod:

I'd do Leslie Stahl immediately.


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Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:37 pm
by blueballs
Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Lesley "Haystack Hair" Stahl did that piece.

I much preferred Lovely Lara Logan's segment about the Medal of Honor winner. :nod:

I'd do Leslie Stahl immediately.


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You'd two hole her raw, wouldn't you?

Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:50 pm
by Cap'n Cat
blueballs wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

I'd do Leslie Stahl immediately.


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You'd two hole her raw, wouldn't you?
Sweet tea for lube, P.

Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:08 pm
by Ivytalk
Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Lesley "Haystack Hair" Stahl did that piece.

I much preferred Lovely Lara Logan's segment about the Medal of Honor winner. :nod:

I'd do Leslie Stahl immediately.


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That's the airbrushed 1980s version! :mrgreen:

Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:27 pm
by JohnStOnge
There shouldn't even be an Environmental Protection Agency unless the People Amend the Constitution to authorize the Federal government to exercise the power it exercises.

Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:29 pm
by JohnStOnge
But if hydraulic fracturing is as safe as the industry says it is, why should it fear regulation?
I cannot believe that someone who has worked in the food industry would even ask that question. I really can't.I'm presuming you've had to deal with the "molehill turned into mountains" regulation that the food industry must endure. I'm wondering what makes you think the kind of irrational regulatory approach that afflicts the food industry doesn't affect other industries as well.

Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:36 pm
by Cap'n Cat
JohnStOnge wrote:
But if hydraulic fracturing is as safe as the industry says it is, why should it fear regulation?
I cannot believe that someone who has worked in the food industry would even ask that question. I really can't.I'm presuming you've had to deal with the "molehill turned into mountains" regulation that the food industry must endure. I'm wondering what makes you think the kind of irrational regulatory approach that afflicts the food industry doesn't affect other industries as well.

Um, John. Cap'n Cat did not write that. It was in the editorial.



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Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:14 am
by travelinman67
Yup, you heard it here first, folks.

Cap'n wants hydraulic fracturing banned...

...and will cheerfully cough up $700/month to heat his home once it has.

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Re: Conks Sh*ting On The Environment - The Cheney Loophole

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:40 am
by Cap'n Cat
travelinman67 wrote:Yup, you heard it here first, folks.

Cap'n wants hydraulic fracturing banned...

...and will cheerfully cough up $700/month to heat his home once it has.

:thumb:

Did The Cap'n say he wants it banned? Two Conk whiffs in one thread - below your average, but still formidable. And, another Conk scare tactic to rile the sheep.

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If they're gonna frack, do it safely and with transparency, Cheney. It's the American way.

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