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Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:36 am
by travelinman67
"No shit, Sherlock!"
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Chronic pot smokers beware. A new study found that regularly smoking marijuana may lower cognitive function, especially if the person starts smoking before 16 years of age.

Experts split on whether marijuana works miracles or just hides symptoms.Study authors from Harvard-affiliated McLean Hospital wanted to examine the effects of chronic marijuana use on brain function.

In a paper presented today at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience in San Diego, Dr. Staci Gruber, lead author of the small study, reported that study participants who began smoking pot before 16 years of age performed significantly worse on cognitive function tests than both non-smokers and those who became chronic smokers later in life.

Researchers defined chronic marijuana use as smoking pot at least five of the last seven days and a minimum of 3,000 joints in a lifetime. The average age of study participants was 22 years old. The data showed that chronic pot smokers repeated errors more often than the two other groups, even after the authors corrected them. They also had more trouble maintaining a set of rules, suggesting an inability to maintain focus...

...."We have to be clear about getting the message out that marijuana isn't really a benign substance," she said in a statement. "It has a direct effect on executive function. The earlier you begin using it, and the more you use of it, the more significant that effect."

Gruber also said it is unclear whether occasional marijuana use would have the same effect on cognitive function.

"It's impossible to tell whether our results would be the same in moderate smokers," said Gruber. "But there are even more of those people out there, so that will be the next place we go for our research."

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:35 am
by Cap'n Cat
I agree, T. However, doesn't everything "extracurricular" ruin brain function? Look at alcohol, it's much worse. And, cigarettes, fvck, how many man-made chemicals from Haliburton are in those things?

BTW: http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Give me a joint and a glass of wine at 7 pm, a couple episodes of Rockford Files and I'm all set for a quiet evening. The nation isn't going to turn into a bunch of potheads with legalization. Treat it like alcohol on the streets, legal age of 21, I'm for that.

Finally, T, you know you're a toker, so this is kinda disingenuous.

:| :thumb:

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:39 am
by ASUG8
Things that are bad for you in excess:
* water
* food
* air

Nobody gets out of here alive - enjoy yourself. :nod: :twocents:


edit: waitaminute......what were we talking about again? :?

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:43 am
by Cap'n Cat
The only phenomenon associated with pot that's bad in my mind, is amotivational syndrome. It's real. You smoke for a long time and you don't want to do anything but sit around and take in the blessings of our Conk-led society.

:coffee:

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:46 am
by clenz
Cap'n Cat wrote:The only phenomenon associated with pot that's bad in my mind, is amotivational syndrome. It's real. You smoke for a long time and you don't want to do anything but sit around and take in the blessings of our Conk-led society.

:coffee:
The problem is that 90% of those born after 1990 already have that problem....along with a serious false sense of entitlment.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:46 am
by AZGrizFan
Cap'n Cat wrote:The only phenomenon associated with pot that's bad in my mind, is amotivational syndrome. It's real. You smoke for a long time and you don't want to do anything but sit around and take in the blessings of our Conk-led society.

:coffee:
...and you donks have amotivational syndrome down to a science, don't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:50 am
by Cap'n Cat
AZGrizFan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:The only phenomenon associated with pot that's bad in my mind, is amotivational syndrome. It's real. You smoke for a long time and you don't want to do anything but sit around and take in the blessings of our Conk-led society.

:coffee:
...and you donks have amotivational syndrome down to a science, don't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Beats being at Teabagger rallies and killing brown-skinned people overseas.

:nod: :nod: :nod:

We all smoke weed and the world becomes SOOO much nicer. God put it here for a reason, Z.

:kisswink:

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:36 am
by travelinman67
Cap'n Cat wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
...and you donks have amotivational syndrome down to a science, don't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Blah, blah, blah...

God put it here for a reason, Z.

:kisswink:
Tons of natural toxins and hallucinagens, Cappy. You sayin' it was meant for us to partake in all of them...

...and per your argument...

...oil and coal are also "natural".


Or is this just more Cap hyperbole?




Chronic pot smoking destroys the brain. That's a fact, Cappy.

And when the studies are finished, I'll wager moderate use also causes irreversible brain damage.


Rationalizing the harm by citing other damage resulting substances holds no water.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:46 am
by Skjellyfetti
Didn't except T-man to be an advocate for the nanny state.

Just because something is bad for you, doesn't mean it should be illegal.

What's next, T-man? Fatty foods? Alcohol? High sodium foods? Time limits on television and computer?

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:49 am
by Ursus A. Horribilis
travelinman67 wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

Blah, blah, blah...

God put it here for a reason, Z.

:kisswink:
Tons of natural toxins and hallucinagens, Cappy. You sayin' it was meant for us to partake in all of them...

...and per your argument...

...oil and coal are also "natural".


Or is this just more Cap hyperbole?




Chronic pot smoking destroys the brain. That's a fact, Cappy.

And when the studies are finished, I'll wager moderate use also causes irreversible brain damage.


Rationalizing the harm by citing other damage resulting substances holds no water.
Thank god Wine and Scotch...hell any alcohol for that matter doesn't do that huh?

Are you saying that we don't make use of oil & coal in the ways they help us?

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:50 am
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Didn't except T-man to be an advocate for the nanny state.

Just because something is bad for you, doesn't mean it should be illegal.

What's next, T-man? Fatty foods? Alcohol? High sodium foods? Time limits on television and computer?
As long as we're going to have to subsidize YOUR healthcare, I want some say in what gets taken off the "legal" list. :coffee: :coffee:

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:53 am
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote:
As long as we're going to have to subsidize YOUR healthcare, I want some say in what gets taken off the "legal" list. :coffee: :coffee:
Do you want a say in what is put ON the list?

Do you think fattening foods and foods high in sodium contribute more to high medical bills than smoking marijuana?

Do you want to ban fattening or high sodium foods?

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:56 am
by 89Hen
Skjellyfetti wrote:Didn't except T-man to be an advocate for the nanny state.

Just because something is bad for you, doesn't mean it should be illegal.

What's next, T-man? Fatty foods? Alcohol? High sodium foods? Time limits on television and computer?
The legalize it crowd has always used the "it's not bad for you" arguement. This is a blow to that.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:58 am
by bandl
I function finely.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:58 am
by Skjellyfetti
89Hen wrote: The legalize it crowd has always used the "it's not bad for you" arguement. This is a blow to that.
I think it can be bad for you if used irresponsibly or abused.

Should we outlaw everything that can be bad for you if used irresponsibly or abused?





edit: I love the fact that all the normally "GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL. KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES" types are in full support of outlawing a plant.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:02 pm
by 89Hen
Skjellyfetti wrote:
89Hen wrote: The legalize it crowd has always used the "it's not bad for you" arguement. This is a blow to that.
I think it can be bad for you if used irresponsibly or abused.

Should we outlaw everything that can be bad for you if used irresponsibly or abused?





edit: I love the fact that all the normally "GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL. KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES" types are in full support of outlawing a plant.
Opium, heroin, cocaine... all from plants. Give me a break.

BTW, I'm in full support of the continuation of outlawing this plant.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:11 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
As long as we're going to have to subsidize YOUR healthcare, I want some say in what gets taken off the "legal" list. :coffee: :coffee:
Do you want a say in what is put ON the list?

Do you think fattening foods and foods high in sodium contribute more to high medical bills than smoking marijuana?

Do you want to ban fattening or high sodium foods?
Yes
Yes
Yes

edit: and this is only with the understanding that we're stuck with Obamacare....and I think you know where I stand on THAT issue... :coffee:

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:16 pm
by travelinman67
bandl wrote:I function finely.
eh...better schedule a doctors appointment to have your hijackitis examined...it appears grossly inflamed.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:21 pm
by travelinman67
AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Do you want a say in what is put ON the list?

Do you think fattening foods and foods high in sodium contribute more to high medical bills than smoking marijuana?

Do you want to ban fattening or high sodium foods?
Yes
Yes
Yes

edit: and this is only with the understanding that we're stuck with Obamacare....and I think you know where I stand on THAT issue... :coffee:
Sodium and so-called "fatty" foods in the correct amount are part of a proper diet necessary for good health: Pot isn't.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:22 pm
by Skjellyfetti
89Hen wrote: Opium, heroin, cocaine... all from plants. Give me a break.
Opium, heroin, and cocaine all come from plants that are legal. You can grow them in your backyard. :dunce:


You can't process them and produce heroin, opium and cocaine, though. But you can drink a nice coca tea to jumpstart you in the mornin. :thumb:
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Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:26 pm
by bandl
travelinman67 wrote:
bandl wrote:I function finely.
eh...better schedule a doctors appointment to have your hijackitis examined...it appears grossly inflamed.
Big words you use. No get in my head.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:28 pm
by Appaholic
Skjellyfetti wrote:Do you think fattening foods and foods high in sodium contribute more to high medical bills than smoking marijuana?
One may correlate with the other......

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:29 pm
by 89Hen
Skjellyfetti wrote:
89Hen wrote: Opium, heroin, cocaine... all from plants. Give me a break.
Opium, heroin, and cocaine all come from plants that are legal. You can grow them in your backyard. :dunce:


You can't process them and produce heroin, opium and cocaine, though.
I can make beer, but I can't sell it. I can make wine, but I can't sell it. I can't make hooch, nor sell it. I can't grow pot, nor sell it. I can buy Sudafed, but not more than a certain amount and I have to sign for it. Trying to apply one rule doesn't work jelly.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:36 pm
by Skjellyfetti
89Hen wrote: I can make beer, but I can't sell it. I can make wine, but I can't sell it. I can't make hooch, nor sell it. I can't grow pot, nor sell it. I can buy Sudafed, but not more than a certain amount and I have to sign for it. Trying to apply one rule doesn't work jelly.
Beer, wine, and sudafed are all processed. Only one of the items listed isn't.

Re: Study: Pot Smoking Damages Brain Function

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:39 pm
by 89Hen
Skjellyfetti wrote:
89Hen wrote: I can make beer, but I can't sell it. I can make wine, but I can't sell it. I can't make hooch, nor sell it. I can't grow pot, nor sell it. I can buy Sudafed, but not more than a certain amount and I have to sign for it. Trying to apply one rule doesn't work jelly.
Beer, wine, and sudafed are all processed. Only one of the items listed isn't.
The simplicity of pot isn't much of an arguement jelly.