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Entitlement Society Failure

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:09 am
by Col Hogan
A glimpse at what life could be like under an Obama Administration has surfaced in Hawaii, where a universial health care program for children has been ended after only seven months...BECAUSE OF ABUSE!!!

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hlMS ... QD93S3VNG0

Re: Entitlement Society Failure

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:49 am
by dbackjon
Since some banks failed, I think we should shut them all done as well, since they are a failure.

Re: Entitlement Society Failure

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:54 am
by Col Hogan
dbackjon wrote:Since some banks failed, I think we should shut them all done as well, since they are a failure.
Business' fail...fact of life...and if we bail them out, they will never learn good practices...bad move...

People have become "entitlement" oriented...this Hawaii "experiment" shows if we start handing out freebies, everyone will feel entitled and the slippery slope gets steeper...

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, jon, I'm not opposed to taking care of uninsured kids WHOSE PARENTS TRUELY NEED HELP...

But when you start offering programs like this, if you don't tightly control them...this is what you get...

Bank Failures...Hawaii Failure...both because of a lack of controls...

Re: Entitlement Society Failure

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:45 am
by travelinman67
OK...??? I may be missing something in this story, but the solution to this seems uber simple:

Applicants for the program would be required to sign an affidavit stating what health care coverage the child previously had, when it expired and if voluntarily dropped (financial hardship, layoff, etc..), provide documentation of the hardship (i.e., tax returns, pay stubs, layoff notice, etc.). Akin to a standard healthcare plan application that requires disclosure of pre-existing conditions. While that might not prevent all the abuses, it would put a crimp in the bulk of it.

Ending a child healthcare program that only cost the state $50k/mos. seems more like Gov. Lingle was making a policy statement rather than a serious budget decision.

Next to education, ensuring that child healthcare is available absent draconian costs to the participants, should be one of our society's top goals.

The fact that this occurred in Hawaii, where foreign investors have been bleeding the state dry for the past 40 years, only speaks to misaligned agendas. Hawaiians would be wise to consider dropping their "homer" attitudes for the sake of bringing in a "political outsider", heavy hitting reformer, much like "Awnold" did for CA. He hasn't been that effective at getting his "agenda" in place., but the prospect of the potential changes he would make, scared the crap out of the old school money and paved the way for realistic moderate reforms.

I'd like to read more about this.