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Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:13 am
by 93henfan
Federal pay is going to be frozen for two years for civilians. You can all do a little victory dance as we get no raise while Wall Street execs at bailout firms continue to pay themselves millions in bonuses. Yay for the private sector!

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:15 am
by Ibanez
93henfan wrote:Federal pay is going to be frozen for two years for civilians. You can all do a little victory dance as we get no raise while Wall Street execs at bailout firms continue to pay themselves millions in bonuses. Yay for the private sector!
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President Obama will announce Monday morning that he wants to freeze pay for federal employees for the next two years, a move the administration says would save more than $5 billion between now and 2012.

The freeze would not apply to military personnel but rather to all other civilian employees on the federal payroll. Congress would have to approve the proposal in order for it to take effect.

The plan is part of Obama's effort to contain the $1.3 trillion federal deficit, and will be followed by more proposals for spending reductions over the next few months, White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer said Monday morning.

That sucks, BUT if it is to help control the deficit....would it be worth it?

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:20 am
by 89Hen
In related news, Federal employees are all keeping their jobs while hundreds of thousands in the private sector are fired or laid off.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:21 am
by 93henfan
89Hen wrote:In related news, Federal employees are all keeping their jobs while hundreds of thousands in the private sector are fired or laid off.
Federal employees undergo RIFs all the time. Try again.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:23 am
by bandl
Federal employees could rape their boss and shit in every coworkers desk and still not get fired.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:24 am
by AZGrizFan
I think it's BS the military is exempted.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:24 am
by 93henfan
bandl wrote:Federal employees could rape their boss and shit in every coworkers desk and still not get fired.
Liar! Sure, I could shit everywhere but the rape would be grounds for termination.

Next hater.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:26 am
by 93henfan
AZGrizFan wrote:I think it's BS the military is exempted.
So you've forgotten your roots? Do you beat your mother too?

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:26 am
by Ibanez
bandl wrote:Federal employees could rape their boss and shit in every coworkers desk and still not get fired.
They'd be fired if they didn't include any minorities.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:27 am
by AZGrizFan
93henfan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:I think it's BS the military is exempted.
So you've forgotten your roots? Do you beat your mother too?
No, I haven't forgotten my roots. But a federal employee is a federal employee is a federal employee. Share the pain equally. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:27 am
by bandl
93henfan wrote:
bandl wrote:Federal employees could rape their boss and shit in every coworkers desk and still not get fired.
Liar! Sure, I could shit everywhere but the rape would be grounds for termination.

Next hater.
No, I'm being for seriousness. This really happened. All you have to do is say "I think I need to admit myself for mental health problems".

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:28 am
by bandl
Ibanez wrote:
bandl wrote:Federal employees could rape their boss and shit in every coworkers desk and still not get fired.
They'd be fired if they didn't include any minorities.
Dummy, there AREN'T any minorities in the federal government. At least not in any important positions.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:30 am
by 93henfan
AZGrizFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:
So you've forgotten your roots? Do you beat your mother too?
No, I haven't forgotten my roots. But a federal employee is a federal employee is a federal employee. Share the pain equally. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
That ship has sailed. Military has been getting bigger raises than us for years. We are the most palatable whipping bitches. Congress passes their raise first and then comes after the lunchpale feds. How convenient?

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:33 am
by 89Hen
93henfan wrote:Federal employees undergo RIFs all the time. Try again.
No chance 93. They are rare for the Feds. Reductions in force for the Feds usually occurs when somebody leaves or retires and their position isn't filled... ie hiring freezes. :tothehand:

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:34 am
by 93henfan
89Hen wrote:
93henfan wrote:Federal employees undergo RIFs all the time. Try again.
No chance 93. They are rare for the Feds. Reductions in force for the Feds usually occurs when somebody leaves or retires and their position isn't filled... ie hiring freezes. :tothehand:
You need to brush up on your fed employment reading. RIFs happen all the time, especially in the age of BRAC.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:36 am
by 89Hen
93henfan wrote:
89Hen wrote: No chance 93. They are rare for the Feds. Reductions in force for the Feds usually occurs when somebody leaves or retires and their position isn't filled... ie hiring freezes. :tothehand:
You need to brush up on your fed employment reading. RIFs happen all the time, especially in the age of BRAC.
Nope. You need to because they don't. See, I can play that game too. :coffee:

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:36 am
by bandl
93henfan wrote:
89Hen wrote: No chance 93. They are rare for the Feds. Reductions in force for the Feds usually occurs when somebody leaves or retires and their position isn't filled... ie hiring freezes. :tothehand:
You need to brush up on your fed employment reading. RIFs happen all the time, especially in the age of BRAC.
Reading Is Fundamental? WTF does that have to do with this?

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:37 am
by 93henfan
89Hen wrote:
93henfan wrote:
You need to brush up on your fed employment reading. RIFs happen all the time, especially in the age of BRAC.
Nope. You need to because they don't. See, I can play that game too. :coffee:
Except you're showing your cluelessness.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:38 am
by ATrain
89Hen wrote:
93henfan wrote:Federal employees undergo RIFs all the time. Try again.
No chance 93. They are rare for the Feds. Reductions in force for the Feds usually occurs when somebody leaves or retires and their position isn't filled... ie hiring freezes. :tothehand:
There is also a hiring freeze in effect as well.

Also, it's about time this move happened. Local and state government employees across the country have had to deal with layoffs, pay cuts and pay freezes.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:39 am
by 93henfan
You ladies discuss this amongst yourselves. I need to hit the road. I expect the anti-gov talk to be hot and heavy by the time I check back in.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:42 am
by bandl
BTW, does not effect promotions to a new level of pay.

Or bonuses.

Any why are postal workers exempt? Do they even know how to calculate a cost-of-living annual raise?

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:24 am
by ASUG8
NO ONE in my company has had a pay raise in the last couple of years (unless it was a promotion). Also, they took away the 3% 401K match. Sorry, but you'll get no tears out of me on this.

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:25 am
by 89Hen
93henfan wrote:
89Hen wrote: Nope. You need to because they don't. See, I can play that game too. :coffee:
Except you're showing your cluelessness.
No, you are. :coffee:

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:32 am
by 89Hen
93henfan wrote:You ladies discuss this amongst yourselves. I need to hit the road. I expect the anti-gov talk to be hot and heavy by the time I check back in.
Who is anti-gov? We're merely stating that one of the perks to Federal jobs is the job security. There are some people trying to pass legislation to have a reduction in force, but I'm sure you realize how hard it is to pass legislation to have any significan RIFs... then again, based on your posts above.. :|

Re: Great News For Gov Haters!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:45 am
by blueballs
Well one thing's for sure... This is America, so if the government types don't like the fact that they won't be getting a raise for two years they are absolutely free to pursue an occupation or vocation where they can get raises, or better yet control their own earnings by taking a job where they are paid based on production- not a clock, tenure, or union contract.