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In April, McCain alleged Obama's incompetence at dealing with terrorist organizations by pointing out Hamas' endorsement of Barack Hussein Obama, for which the press and Obama campaign loudly cried foul and even tried to play the race card. Well, the chicken terrorists have all checked in for the night, and they've chosen to roost in Obama's house.

The original April story...
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/pol ... s_oba.html

McCain ties Obama to Hamas

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor April 25, 2008 04:32 PM
John McCain sought again today to tie Barack Obama to the terrorist group Hamas.

In a conversation with conservative bloggers, McCain said, "I think it's very clear who Hamas wants to be the next president of the United States. I think that people should understand that I will be Hamas's worst nightmare....If Senator Obama is favored by Hamas, I think people can make judgments accordingly."

...The presumptive Republican nominee also used the comment/association in a fund-raising letter last week, telling potential donors, "Barack Obama's foreign policy plans have even won him praise from Hamas leaders."

Obama's campaign criticized McCain, calling his comments personal attacks not in keeping with his pledge to run a respectful campaign. It also pointed out that Obama has denounced Hamas as a terrorist group that targets civilians.
Jumping forward to this past week, when press coverage of Powell and McClellan's endorsement of Obama was used to drown out several other "less newsworthy" endorsements: Virtually every Muslim terrorist group endorsed or reaffirmed their endorsment of Obama...

http://www.spectator.org/blog/2008/10/2 ... -again-and

Hamas Praises Obama Again -- and Biden, Too
By Philip Klein on 10.20.08 @ 5:46PM
Hamas adviser Ahmed Yousef is back, and this time, he offers kind words for Joe Biden as well as Barack Obama. In an interview with WABC's John Batchelor, the spokesman for the terrorist group said he believed Palestinians would have better luck in an Obama administration, which would be "more fair and impartial" than the Bush administration. As for Obama's running mate, Yousef said, "I do believe Mr. Biden is a great man. And we do count on him also as a good partner with Mr. Obama to put the right policy regarding how to handle the problems in the region." He added that the terrorist group would send Obama a congratulation letter "the moment he will win the election."
And a real good laundry list of most of the remaining Obama-endorsing terrorists/supporters...

http://townhall.com/columnists/DianaWes ... ments=true
Look Who's Endorsing O Now
by Diana West
Thursday, October 23, 2008
Colin Powell got all the airtime, sure, but his isn't the only Barack Obama endorsement worth talking about lately. There was Ali Larijani, for example, the Hezbollah- and Hamas-supporting speaker of Iran's parliament, who voiced Iran's preference for a "more flexible and rational" Obama over John McCain -- not that he got what you could call a media roll-out. Nor did America's own anti-white, anti-Jewish Louis Farrakhan, who recently heralded an Obama presidency as the coming age of the "the Messiah." There was a newsflash for fluffy-con endorsements at home and abroad, arcing and sputtering on a thin mix of elitism and naivete, but virtually no one seems to have noticed an Obama endorsement that came in from the National Association of Muslim American Women (NAMAW).

Big yawn? Hardly. In its endorsement, the Columbus-based Muslim women's group described itself as "pro-family" and "pro-life." But, given the record of NAMAW chairwoman and CEO Anisa Abd el Fattah, it is also pro-Hamas.

As Patrick Poole has reported, Fattah has published Hamas-ian writings contending, for example, that Zionism "violates ... every norm of decency known to the human species."...

Both Fattah and Yousef (who fled the country in 2005 to avoid prosecution in the terrorism-related Fawaz Damra trial) used to work for the United Association for Studies and Research (UASR), an innocuously named organization founded by Hamas chieftain Mousa abu Marzook that has been described as "the political command of Hamas in the United States." The UASR, along with an interlocking network of Islamic organizations, has been designated by the government as both an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror-financing trial, and an affiliate of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Egyptian-founded organization that seeks to install the Sharia (Islamic law) worldwide. Other groups so designated include the Muslim American Society (MAS), which the government said was "founded as the overt arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States," and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), of which Fattah, it so happens, was a founding board member. (Fattah, according to her online biography, as Poole has noted, also helped develop the American Muslim Council, which was founded by convicted terrorist financier Abdurahman Alamoudi.)...

...Earlier this month, several news organizations reported that Minha Husaini, the Obama campaign director of Muslim outreach, participated in a non-advertised September meeting in hotly contested Virginia with about 30 Muslim leaders. Among them were Nihad Awad of CAIR and Mahdi Bray of MAS -- both leaders of groups the government has designated as unindicted co-conspirators and Muslim Brotherhood affiliates. Also present was Johari Abdul Malik, the imam of Dar Al-Hijrah Mosque, aka "the 9/11 mosque" because two of the 9/11 hijackers worshipped there. (So did Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, an Al Qaeda member now serving a 30-year sentence for plotting to assassinate President Bush, and also Hamas chieftain and UASR founder Mousa abu Marzook.)

Another person attending the meeting was Mazen Asbahi, the former Obama director of Muslim outreach who quickly resigned in early August after news broke about his ties to unindicted co-conspirators. This was not his first post-resignation campaign-related event. At a luncheon during the Democratic National Convention, Investor's Business Daily reported Asbahi as saying that his resignation was a "strategic decision," and "that he was participating in campaign conference calls on Muslim outreach."

The Obama campaign has pleaded ignorance concerning the September meeting, with campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt telling NBC News producer Jim Popkin that campaign staffers, including Husaini, wouldn't have "attended if they were aware of the complete list of attendees." The campaign had no comment on Asbahi's presence, and, oddly, wouldn't allow reporters speak with Muslim outreach director Husaini.

What are voters to make of this? Did Obama campaign staffers abandon the event on learning who was there? The meeting went on as scheduled. Did the campaign later denounce these controversial, to say the least, groups in media statements? Apparently not. One unidentified meeting participant told Popkin that "some in the Obama group knew ahead of time that top CAIR officials would be in attendance," adding: "There was some hope it wouldn't get out" into the media.
That, of course, should never have concerned a campaign for whom media scrutiny resembles cupcake frosting. But "out" it is, thanks to a few journalists still on the job.
And from Israel National News...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128028
Published: 10/22/08, 12:54 AM

Obama 'Camps Out' in Satmar Sukkahs; Hamas Backs Biden

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
The Senator's Jewish outreach director, Jeremy Goldberg, told the Jewish Forward that aides are holding similar events in the community of the Satmar sect, which opposes the existence of the State of Israel.
Once again, McCain's warnings, mocked by the press, are sadly confirmed: Terrorists are wringing their hands in joy anticipating an Obama presidency.

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And, as a pre-emptive piece of information for the soundbiters who'll undoubtedly be posting that "Alqaida endorsed McCain"...read and learn...from a source other than the lying MSM.

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2008/10/has_alqaida_chosen_its_candida.php

Has Al-Qaida Chosen its Candidate? An Examination of the "Al-Hesbah-McCain" Controversy
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October 22, 2008 08:03 PM
Earlier today, the Washington Post published an article examining recent "chatter" on Al-Qaida Internet forums which appears to endorse Arizona Senator John McCain as Al-Qaida's "preferred" candidate in the upcoming U.S. presidential election. The Post cites a message posted on the notorious Al-Qaida web forum known as "Al-Hesbah" from a frequent discussant, "Mohammad Haafid", in which the latter individual suggests, "Al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election" because McCain's anticipated counter-terrorism policies "will succeed in exhausting America." In the wake of the article, the McCain campaign quickly responded with a conference call featuring key advisers Randy Scheunemann and Jim Woolsey. Both men correctly pointed out that the original message on Al-Hesbah was not posted on behalf of any terrorist organization, but was simply the work of an "individual blogger." However, Scheuenmann and Woolsey went even farther, reportedly dismissing the discussions of Al-Hesbah users as meaningless "musings and bravado" broadcast over a single "terrorist Islamist blog."...

...There is, of course, a degree of well-deserved irony in John McCain having to defend himself against charges of being a "terrorist enabler". The McCain campaign has been unforgivably slow to condemn the vocal minority of their supporters at recent campaign rallies who have shouted out "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" in response to hearing the name of Senator Barack Obama. The fact is, Al-Qaida's real interest in the current American election cycle has nothing to do with choosing one candidate over the other -- clearly, Al-Qaida doesn't like either candidate. Rather, what Al-Qaida is hoping to witness this political season are internal recriminations, name-calling, racism, xenophobia, disunity, and America tearing at its own social fabric. The motivation is obviously not in crowning the victor, but in prolonging the game. Those foolish individuals who have shown up at political rallies carrying tasteless signs and threatening violence against their own fellow Americans are Al-Qaida's real allies in this race. They are the ones who are responsible for providing a limitless bounty of propaganda fodder for our global adversaries -- and there should be no tolerance in either campaign for such despicable behavior.
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So you are endorsing have foreigners influence our votes for President. Sweet
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dbackjon wrote:So terrorist endorsments should influence our votes for President. Sweet
Morning, DUbackjon.

The answer is, "Yes".

Israel has survived as a result of their exemplary ability to defend themselves. Faced with an assured self-destruction if they attempted to attack Israel, their Arab neighbors have, as a rule, left Israel alone. An Obama presidency would embolden Israel's enemies into attacking or attempting to attack Israel, which would trigger a Middle East war that would (as most analysts have predicted), escalate into a regional war and arguably become WWIII.

How badly do you want those "social changes", Jon?

You don't need those to be "legit": You already are. Electing a candidate who will underscore your social reforms, even at the cost of triggering a global conflict, (whether done for religious, extremist, or progressive motives), is irrational and reckless if not logically absurd.
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travelinman67 wrote:And, as a pre-emptive piece of information for the soundbiters who'll undoubtedly be posting that "Alqaida endorsed McCain"...read and learn...from a source other than the lying MSM.

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2008/10/has_alqaida_chosen_its_candida.php

Has Al-Qaida Chosen its Candidate? An Examination of the "Al-Hesbah-McCain" Controversy
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October 22, 2008 08:03 PM
Earlier today, the Washington Post published an article examining recent "chatter" on Al-Qaida Internet forums which appears to endorse Arizona Senator John McCain as Al-Qaida's "preferred" candidate in the upcoming U.S. presidential election. The Post cites a message posted on the notorious Al-Qaida web forum known as "Al-Hesbah" from a frequent discussant, "Mohammad Haafid", in which the latter individual suggests, "Al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election" because McCain's anticipated counter-terrorism policies "will succeed in exhausting America." In the wake of the article, the McCain campaign quickly responded with a conference call featuring key advisers Randy Scheunemann and Jim Woolsey. Both men correctly pointed out that the original message on Al-Hesbah was not posted on behalf of any terrorist organization, but was simply the work of an "individual blogger." However, Scheuenmann and Woolsey went even farther, reportedly dismissing the discussions of Al-Hesbah users as meaningless "musings and bravado" broadcast over a single "terrorist Islamist blog."...

...There is, of course, a degree of well-deserved irony in John McCain having to defend himself against charges of being a "terrorist enabler". The McCain campaign has been unforgivably slow to condemn the vocal minority of their supporters at recent campaign rallies who have shouted out "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" in response to hearing the name of Senator Barack Obama. The fact is, Al-Qaida's real interest in the current American election cycle has nothing to do with choosing one candidate over the other -- clearly, Al-Qaida doesn't like either candidate. Rather, what Al-Qaida is hoping to witness this political season are internal recriminations, name-calling, racism, xenophobia, disunity, and America tearing at its own social fabric. The motivation is obviously not in crowning the victor, but in prolonging the game. Those foolish individuals who have shown up at political rallies carrying tasteless signs and threatening violence against their own fellow Americans are Al-Qaida's real allies in this race. They are the ones who are responsible for providing a limitless bounty of propaganda fodder for our global adversaries -- and there should be no tolerance in either campaign for such despicable behavior.
T-man.....can you clarify again why the media is in the bag for Obama and can't be trusted vs. why you continually post links to media stories in your posts? Talk about revisionism......
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Appaholic wrote: T-man.....can you clarify again why the media is in the bag for Obama and can't be trusted vs. why you continually post links to media stories in your posts? Talk about revisionism......
Not every media outlet is corrupt and unethical, just as not every person from W. NC is a dimwitted hillbilly. Does that clarify?
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Appaholic wrote: T-man.....can you clarify again why the media is in the bag for Obama and can't be trusted vs. why you continually post links to media stories in your posts? Talk about revisionism......
Not every media outlet is corrupt and unethical, just as not every person from W. NC is a dimwitted hillbilly. Does that clarify?
Just the ones who report negative Republican, right? We call it country dumb around here.....and I'm not the one sticking my hand on the hot plate again, Mr. Treasury Sec.... :roll:
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travelinman67 wrote:Not every media outlet is corrupt and unethical, just as not every person from W. NC is a dimwitted hillbilly. Does that clarify?
Just the ones who report negative Republican, right? We call it country dumb around here.....and I'm not the one sticking my hand on the hot plate again, Mr. Treasury Sec.... :roll:
What-In-The-F&^k-Have-You-Been-Taking-Tonight, Homer?

"...hot plate..." ????

So is that mountain talk for "Bible" or "Sister's Tits"???

You are just P.O.'d that I haven't responded to your crackpot reiteration of KnowNothingbama's remarks that 95% of the businesses in America make less than $250k.

OK, if it'll shut you up until the next time a raven crows in your ear, here's my response.

There are MILLIONS of taxpayers who file schedule C sole proprietorships for "in home" businesses that are "non employer" businesses. If you look at the SBA's document defining "Small Business" annual revenue threshholds by industry, the vast majority have Gross Receipts caps exceeding $4M, therefore, a net less than $250k would mean a net profit of 3%. I would challenge you to find any "employer business" that can remain profitable/solven indefinitely with a net profit of 3% or less.

(...here's a hint...they're mythical! :roll: ). The REALITY is that those businesses average net profits in excess of $250,000, and from experience (as I alleged in my earlier criticism of Mao Tsebama) the reality is most employer businesses as defined by SBA (Table of small business size threshholds, linked below) have nets well in excess of $500k, and therefore fall within the "subject to" range of Obama's tax increases.

http://www.sba.gov/idc/groups/public/do ... blepdf.pdf

Remember, we're talking about "employer businesses", not your neighbor in trailer space #22 that "sells" drop-ship-from-Tianjin epoxy resin Hummel figurines via eBay. The problem is that "employer businesses" who fall within Obama's tax bracket, when hit with new taxes, have to take it back from SOMEWHERE ELSE...which is code for employment reductions and reduced benefits for remaining employees...

...now, back to the beginning of this conversation...WHO is the advocate for the working class and has "earned" the right to adopt the homily, "jobs, baby, jobs"?

Not the Dems, and defintely not "Obama", whose programs work to stifle increases in hiring and productivity.

Now, what in the f&*k did you take tonight?
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OK, if it'll shut you up until the next time a raven crows in your ear, here's my response.
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dbackjon wrote:So you are endorsing have foreigners influence our votes for President. Sweet
NO MORE SO THEN WHEN BARRY SORTERO WENT TO BERLIN AND SPOKE IN FRONT OF THOSE NAZIS AND THENCE TO FRANCE.
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Appaholic wrote: Just the ones who report negative Republican, right? We call it country dumb around here.....and I'm not the one sticking my hand on the hot plate again, Mr. Treasury Sec.... :roll:
What-In-The-F&^k-Have-You-Been-Taking-Tonight, Homer?

"...hot plate..." ????

So is that mountain talk for "Bible" or "Sister's Tits"???

You are just P.O.'d that I haven't responded to your crackpot reiteration of KnowNothingbama's remarks that 95% of the businesses in America make less than $250k.

OK, if it'll shut you up until the next time a raven crows in your ear, here's my response.

There are MILLIONS of taxpayers who file schedule C sole proprietorships for "in home" businesses that are "non employer" businesses. If you look at the SBA's document defining "Small Business" annual revenue threshholds by industry, the vast majority have Gross Receipts caps exceeding $4M, therefore, a net less than $250k would mean a net profit of 3%. I would challenge you to find any "employer business" that can remain profitable/solven indefinitely with a net profit of 3% or less.

(...here's a hint...they're mythical! :roll: ). The REALITY is that those businesses average net profits in excess of $250,000, and from experience (as I alleged in my earlier criticism of Mao Tsebama) the reality is most employer businesses as defined by SBA (Table of small business size threshholds, linked below) have nets well in excess of $500k, and therefore fall within the "subject to" range of Obama's tax increases.

http://www.sba.gov/idc/groups/public/do ... blepdf.pdf

Remember, we're talking about "employer businesses", not your neighbor in trailer space #22 that "sells" drop-ship-from-Tianjin epoxy resin Hummel figurines via eBay. The problem is that "employer businesses" who fall within Obama's tax bracket, when hit with new taxes, have to take it back from SOMEWHERE ELSE...which is code for employment reductions and reduced benefits for remaining employees...

...now, back to the beginning of this conversation...WHO is the advocate for the working class and has "earned" the right to adopt the homily, "jobs, baby, jobs"?

Not the Dems, and defintely not "Obama", whose programs work to stifle increases in hiring and productivity.

Now, what in the f&*k did you take tonight?
See, that's just it...I'm not a small business owner....I work for a Socialist company from Finland that abhors lay-offs and we are the most productive facility with least overhead in our multi-national corp. Therefore, Obama's tax plan works for me personally and I could give two foks about the rest of the country....having a Republican in office for the past 8 years hasn't helped me out, so I'm willing to give Obama a chance....actually, I won't be voting for either based on principle, but my wife will vote for Obama as having a democrat in office on the federal level gives her job security and provides the both of US with a tax cut.....what's the cliche'?....all politics are local and people vote with their wallet?.... ;)
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Obama should work out well for you then. When American wages drop below $8.00/hr because American businessses are being taxed into oblivion, the only "stable" businesses will the foreign owned, hence, all the unemployed, second-job schmucks dumb enough to work for American owned businesses will be working for your Finland and other foreign businesses...can you say "Promotion".

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travelinman67 wrote:Obama should work out well for you then. When American wages drop below $8.00/hr because American businessses are being taxed into oblivion, the only "stable" businesses will the foreign owned, hence, all the unemployed, second-job schmucks dumb enough to work for American owned businesses will be working for your Finland and other foreign businesses...can you say "Promotion".

Congratulations.
Thank you...it took years of hard work and I have many people to thank.... :D ....but, how is it that my company from Finland can still compete even though they are currently socialist and have to pay and have been paying outrageous taxes?
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travelinman67 wrote:Obama should work out well for you then. When American wages drop below $8.00/hr because American businessses are being taxed into oblivion, the only "stable" businesses will the foreign owned, hence, all the unemployed, second-job schmucks dumb enough to work for American owned businesses will be working for your Finland and other foreign businesses...can you say "Promotion".

Congratulations.
Thank you...it took years of hard work and I have many people to thank.... :D ....but, how is it that my company from Finland can still compete even though they are currently socialist and have to pay and have been paying outrageous taxes?
Their largest customer is the largest consumer nation on the planet. Duh.

You think you would have a job with them if we had no trade agreement allowing them access to our markets?
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Appaholic wrote: Thank you...it took years of hard work and I have many people to thank.... :D ....but, how is it that my company from Finland can still compete even though they are currently socialist and have to pay and have been paying outrageous taxes?
Their largest customer is the largest consumer nation on the planet. Duh.
But...but....but.. they'resocialists and...and....they pay taxes to our government. And Ha...Ha...Hamas wants Obama to win j-j-j-just like everbody else does. It's n-not f-f-fair!
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houndawg wrote: But...but....but.. they'resocialists and...and....they pay taxes to our government. And Ha...Ha...Hamas wants Obama to win j-j-j-just like everbody else does. It's n-not f-f-fair!
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Huh? :roll:

Was today, Democrats "get stoned" and act like a 15 yr old day?

Gotta be one of the most ignorant posts you've ever made, Houndawg.
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