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Intelligence agencies, computer security companies and the nuclear industry have been trying to analyze the worm since it was discovered in June by a Belarus-based company that was doing business in Iran. And what they've all found, says Sean McGurk, the Homeland Security Department's acting director of national cyber security and communications integration, is a “game changer.”

The construction of the worm was so advanced, it was “like the arrival of an F-35 into a World War I battlefield,” says Ralph Langner, the computer expert who was the first to sound the alarm about Stuxnet. Others have called it the first “weaponized” computer virus.

Simply put, Stuxnet is an incredibly advanced, undetectable computer worm that took years to construct and was designed to jump from computer to computer until it found the specific, protected control system that it aimed to destroy: Iran’s nuclear enrichment program.

Looks like NOTHING is safe now...

Poor Iranian bastards...

IAEA inspectors say the sabotage better explains the slowness of the program, which they had earlier attributed to poor equipment manufacturing and management problems. As Iranians struggled with the setbacks, they began searching for signs of sabotage. From inside Iran there have been unconfirmed reports that the head of the plant was fired shortly after the worm wended its way into the system and began creating technical problems, and that some scientists who were suspected of espionage disappeared or were executed. And counter intelligence agents began monitoring all communications between scientists at the site, creating a climate of fear and paranoia.

Sheer fucking genius, if you ask me.

Indications are this was from Israel

If they want nukes, I think we have a few we can send them.

dbackjon wrote:Indications are this was from Israel

We could learn more than a thing or two from those fuckers. They don't mess around.

GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:If they want nukes, I think we have a few we can send them.

Delivered by a B-2?

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Indications are this was from Israel

We could learn more than a thing or two from those ****. They don't mess around.

And we're worried about wiki leaks? You know the Israelis are reading much more interesting stuff than Assange is getting.

dbackjon wrote:Indications are this was from Israel

What indications?

Seriously, I'm interested.

CID1990 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Indications are this was from Israel

What indications?

Seriously, I'm interested.

Let me try to find what I read. I have another message board I read, we discussed this a few weeks ago. One of the people, who goes to Israel often, and has contacts there, brought this up.

Signs may now point to either US, Germany, or Russia.

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Originally, all eyes turned toward Israel’s intelligence agencies. Engineers examining the worm found “clues” that hinted at Israel’s involvement. In one case they found the word “Myrtus” embedded in the code and argued that it was a reference to Esther, the biblical figure who saved the ancient Jewish state from the Persians. But computer experts say "Myrtus" is more likely a common reference to “My RTUS,” or remote terminal units.

Langer argues that no single Western intelligence agency had the skills to pull this off alone. The most likely answer, he says, is that a consortium of intelligence agencies worked together to build the cyber bomb. And he says the most likely confederates are the United States, because it has the technical skills to make the virus, Germany, because reverse-engineering Siemen’s product would have taken years without it, and Russia, because of its familiarity with both the Iranian nuclear plant and Siemen’s systems.

There is one clue that was left in the code that may tell us all we need to know.

Embedded in different section of the code is another common computer language reference, but this one is misspelled. Instead of saying “DEADFOOT,” a term stolen from pilots meaning a failed engine, this one reads “DEADFOO7.”

CID1990 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Indications are this was from Israel

What indications?

Seriously, I'm interested.

Not only does it wreck systems, it picks up spare change along the way.

dbackjon wrote:Signs may now point to either US, Germany, or Russia.

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Originally, all eyes turned toward Israel’s intelligence agencies. Engineers examining the worm found “clues” that hinted at Israel’s involvement. In one case they found the word “Myrtus” embedded in the code and argued that it was a reference to Esther, the biblical figure who saved the ancient Jewish state from the Persians. But computer experts say "Myrtus" is more likely a common reference to “My RTUS,” or remote terminal units.

Langer argues that no single Western intelligence agency had the skills to pull this off alone. The most likely answer, he says, is that a consortium of intelligence agencies worked together to build the cyber bomb. And he says the most likely confederates are the United States, because it has the technical skills to make the virus, Germany, because reverse-engineering Siemen’s product would have taken years without it, and Russia, because of its familiarity with both the Iranian nuclear plant and Siemen’s systems.

There is one clue that was left in the code that may tell us all we need to know.

Embedded in different section of the code is another common computer language reference, but this one is misspelled. Instead of saying “DEADFOOT,” a term stolen from pilots meaning a failed engine, this one reads “DEADFOO7.”

If these guys are that good, any clues they left were probably intentional.

houndawg wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Signs may now point to either US, Germany, or Russia.

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Originally, all eyes turned toward Israel’s intelligence agencies. Engineers examining the worm found “clues” that hinted at Israel’s involvement. In one case they found the word “Myrtus” embedded in the code and argued that it was a reference to Esther, the biblical figure who saved the ancient Jewish state from the Persians. But computer experts say "Myrtus" is more likely a common reference to “My RTUS,” or remote terminal units.

Langer argues that no single Western intelligence agency had the skills to pull this off alone. The most likely answer, he says, is that a consortium of intelligence agencies worked together to build the cyber bomb. And he says the most likely confederates are the United States, because it has the technical skills to make the virus, Germany, because reverse-engineering Siemen’s product would have taken years without it, and Russia, because of its familiarity with both the Iranian nuclear plant and Siemen’s systems.

There is one clue that was left in the code that may tell us all we need to know.

Embedded in different section of the code is another common computer language reference, but this one is misspelled. Instead of saying “DEADFOOT,” a term stolen from pilots meaning a failed engine, this one reads “DEADFOO7.”

If these guys are that good, any clues they left were probably intentional.

Exactly, like using a signature that says, "With love, Bradley Manning".

now THIS is how you do it... who needs a war when you can just drop this shit?

However, the Iranians were surprised to see it being delivered by Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith in an Iranian pickup truck...

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:now THIS is how you do it... who needs a war when you can just drop this shit?

However, the Iranians were surprised to see it being delivered by Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith in an Iranian pickup truck...

"We give it a VIRUS!!!"

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:now THIS is how you do it... who needs a war when you can just drop this shit?

However, the Iranians were surprised to see it being delivered by Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith in an Iranian pickup truck...

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:now THIS is how you do it... who needs a war when you can just drop this ****?

However, the Iranians were surprised to see it being delivered by Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith in an Iranian pickup truck...

dbackjon wrote:
Embedded in different section of the code is another common computer language reference, but this one is misspelled. Instead of saying “DEADFOOT,” a term stolen from pilots meaning a failed engine, this one reads “DEADFOO7.”

Bond?

James Bond.

dbackjon wrote:Signs may now point to either US, Germany, or Russia.

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Originally, all eyes turned toward Israel’s intelligence agencies. Engineers examining the worm found “clues” that hinted at Israel’s involvement. In one case they found the word “Myrtus” embedded in the code and argued that it was a reference to Esther, the biblical figure who saved the ancient Jewish state from the Persians. But computer experts say "Myrtus" is more likely a common reference to “My RTUS,” or remote terminal units.

Langer argues that no single Western intelligence agency had the skills to pull this off alone. The most likely answer, he says, is that a consortium of intelligence agencies worked together to build the cyber bomb. And he says the most likely confederates are the United States, because it has the technical skills to make the virus, Germany, because reverse-engineering Siemen’s product would have taken years without it, and Russia, because of its familiarity with both the Iranian nuclear plant and Siemen’s systems.

There is one clue that was left in the code that may tell us all we need to know.

Embedded in different section of the code is another common computer language reference, but this one is misspelled. Instead of saying “DEADFOOT,” a term stolen from pilots meaning a failed engine, this one reads “DEADFOO7.”

"... a consortium of intelligence agencies worked together" to build the cyber bomb?

Why does anyone think that a clue in the code was not intentionally planted?

The more I think about this whole thing, the more awesome it sounds.

Once again, it pays to be on the leading edge of this kind of stuff. Iran needs to remember that we and the Germans perfected 60 years ago what they are still trying to get right today. It takes more than just a bomb, and hopefully some of these two bit countries like Iran and Venezuela will figure that out one day.

Awwww, it's the berries!!!

CID1990 wrote:The more I think about this whole thing, the more awesome it sounds.

Amazing story. The more you sit back and think about what intel was needed to pull this off, it becomes pretty clear we had very little doing in this.

The soldiers of the future......

Skjellyfetti wrote:The soldiers of the future......

They are too vulnerable.

They can be distracted (and therefore thwarted) by old episodes of Space City Macross, and other various and sundry techno anime.

I would imagine that if it isn't some government agency that pulled it off there would be some advanced cases of sphincter lock in the corridors of power.


Anybody interested in cyber-security (and stolen WW2 gold) really ought to read Cryptonomicon. It's looking less like fiction by the day.

After a little reading, it does seem like a US-German-Russian tripartite could be a possibility here, given what the three sides are able to bring to the table. I am sure there are other possibilities but this one seems to be the simplest one.