And yet 92% of Afghani's have never heard of 9/11.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:21 pm
by Grizalltheway
and fell out with a local mosque there in 2007 over his extreme political opinions
Another example of moderate Muslims not denouncing extremists.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:07 pm
by death dealer
Grizalltheway wrote:
and fell out with a local mosque there in 2007 over his extreme political opinions
Another example of moderate Muslims not denouncing extremists.
No, denouncing them would be going on national television and saying Osama is a fraud. That extremist views of jihad are a bastardization of the concept. That anyone following their teachings and blowing up innocents isn't going to paradise with the virgins, but to hell on an express bus. When that happens, I'll say they are denouncing extremists. Sitting quietly on the sidelines and not agreeing with them is far from denouncing.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:15 pm
by Grizalltheway
death dealer wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Another example of moderate Muslims not denouncing extremists.
No, denouncing them would be going on national television and saying Osama is a fraud. That extremist views of jihad are a bastardization of the concept. That anyone following their teachings and blowing up innocents isn't going to paradise with the virgins, but to hell on an express bus. When that happens, I'll say they are denouncing extremists. Sitting quietly on the sidelines and not agreeing with them is far from denouncing.
1. So, we should expect every Christian in America to get on national TV and denounce McVeigh and the abortion clinic bombers?
2. How is kicking someone out of your congregation for their extremist views NOT considered denunciation?
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:40 pm
by death dealer
Grizalltheway wrote:
death dealer wrote:
No, denouncing them would be going on national television and saying Osama is a fraud. That extremist views of jihad are a bastardization of the concept. That anyone following their teachings and blowing up innocents isn't going to paradise with the virgins, but to hell on an express bus. When that happens, I'll say they are denouncing extremists. Sitting quietly on the sidelines and not agreeing with them is far from denouncing.
1. So, we should expect every Christian in America to get on national TV and denounce McVeigh and the abortion clinic bombers?
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY!!!! They should be in the streets with signs and banners denouncing that crap. If they truly believe what they claim they should be outraged at what he did and letting the rest of the world know it at the top of their lungs!!!
Grizalltheway wrote:2. How is kicking someone out of your congregation for their extremist views NOT considered denunciation?
HELL NO IT IS NOT!!! THEY BLEW UP A FUCKING BUILDING AND CONTINUE TO TRY TO BLOW SHIT UP!! I EXPECT A LITTLE MORE THAN , "Oh by the way, you can't come to the potluck dinner next week."
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:55 pm
by CID1990
Grizalltheway wrote:
death dealer wrote:
No, denouncing them would be going on national television and saying Osama is a fraud. That extremist views of jihad are a bastardization of the concept. That anyone following their teachings and blowing up innocents isn't going to paradise with the virgins, but to hell on an express bus. When that happens, I'll say they are denouncing extremists. Sitting quietly on the sidelines and not agreeing with them is far from denouncing.
1. So, we should expect every Christian in America to get on national TV and denounce McVeigh and the abortion clinic bombers?
2. How is kicking someone out of your congregation for their extremist views NOT considered denunciation?
For those with access to national television, yes.
As for the rest, I don't think you see near the acquiescence in the Christian community towards abortion clinic bombers as you do from the Islamic community towards acts of terror. I have been in several Muslim countries and I have seen them dance in the streets over a lot of pretty barbaric sh!t.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:25 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
death dealer wrote:
No, denouncing them would be going on national television and saying Osama is a fraud. That extremist views of jihad are a bastardization of the concept. That anyone following their teachings and blowing up innocents isn't going to paradise with the virgins, but to hell on an express bus. When that happens, I'll say they are denouncing extremists. Sitting quietly on the sidelines and not agreeing with them is far from denouncing.
1. So, we should expect every Christian in America to get on national TV and denounce McVeigh and the abortion clinic bombers?
2. How is kicking someone out of your congregation for their extremist views NOT considered denunciation?
Grizalltheywayoutofyourleague, you might just want to stop while you're behind. Comparing the random and rare abortion clinic bomber to the focused, planned, continuous onslaught perpetrated by these peaceful people negates your argument before it begins.
If abortion clinics were being blown up on a weekly basis, then yes, I'd expect Christians to come out in force against the violence. But your argument has no merit.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:49 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
1. So, we should expect every Christian in America to get on national TV and denounce McVeigh and the abortion clinic bombers?
2. How is kicking someone out of your congregation for their extremist views NOT considered denunciation?
Grizalltheywayoutofyourleague, you might just want to stop while you're behind. Comparing the random and rare abortion clinic bomber to the focused, planned, continuous onslaught perpetrated by these peaceful people negates your argument before it begins.
If abortion clinics were being blown up on a weekly basis, then yes, I'd expect Christians to come out in force against the violence. But your argument has no merit.
Yeah, and Z(ero), you don't understand or acknowledge the severity of the focused, planned and continuous onslaught perpetrated by the christian right and catholic church on women and families seeking legal abortions and family planning services. They're picketing clinics all over the nation right now, hell Fatamountman was one of those assholes till I conviced him the catholic church is a crock of shit. They currently threaten doctors and clinic workers to the point where they have to hire security guards, wear bulletproof vests and install surveillence cameras. They harrass and shame women and girls entering and leaving clinics to the point where they have to be escorted in for their safety- yep coordinated and they're doin it right now. Open your eyes.
What a fucking jackelope you are.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:50 am
by Appaholic
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheywayoutofyourleague, you might just want to stop while you're behind. Comparing the random and rare abortion clinic bomber to the focused, planned, continuous onslaught perpetrated by these peaceful people negates your argument before it begins.
If abortion clinics were being blown up on a weekly basis, then yes, I'd expect Christians to come out in force against the violence. But your argument has no merit.
Yeah, and Z(ero), you don't understand or acknowledge the severity of the focused, planned and continuous onslaught perpetrated by the christian right and catholic church on women and families seeking legal abortions and family planning services. They're picketing clinics all over the nation right now, hell Fatamountman was one of those assholes till I conviced him the catholic church is a crock of shit. They currently threaten doctors and clinic workers to the point where they have to hire security guards, wear bulletproof vests and install surveillence cameras. They harrass and shame women and girls entering and leaving clinics to the point where they have to be escorted in for their safety- yep coordinated and they're doin it right now. Open your eyes.
What a fucking jackelope you are.
Obviously, those acts are on par with beheadings, bombings, honor mutilations, etc... ...go back to the needle clinic, cappywannabee....
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:28 pm
by native
Appaholic wrote:
D1B wrote:
Yeah, and Z(ero), you don't understand or acknowledge the severity of the focused, planned and continuous onslaught perpetrated by the christian right and catholic church on women and families seeking legal abortions and family planning services. They're picketing clinics all over the nation right now, hell Fatamountman was one of those ******* till I conviced him the catholic church is a crock of ****. They currently threaten doctors and clinic workers to the point where they have to hire security guards, wear bulletproof vests and install surveillence cameras. They harrass and shame women and girls entering and leaving clinics to the point where they have to be escorted in for their safety- yep coordinated and they're doin it right now. Open your eyes.
What a **** jackelope you are.
Obviously, those acts are on par with beheadings, bombings, honor mutilations, etc... ...go back to the needle clinic, cappywannabee....
It would be a lot more efficient for d to get his needles straight from the hazardous waste bin.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:51 pm
by CID1990
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheywayoutofyourleague, you might just want to stop while you're behind. Comparing the random and rare abortion clinic bomber to the focused, planned, continuous onslaught perpetrated by these peaceful people negates your argument before it begins.
If abortion clinics were being blown up on a weekly basis, then yes, I'd expect Christians to come out in force against the violence. But your argument has no merit.
Yeah, and Z(ero), you don't understand or acknowledge the severity of the focused, planned and continuous onslaught perpetrated by the christian right and catholic church on women and families seeking legal abortions and family planning services. They're picketing clinics all over the nation right now, hell Fatamountman was one of those ******* till I conviced him the catholic church is a crock of ****. They currently threaten doctors and clinic workers to the point where they have to hire security guards, wear bulletproof vests and install surveillence cameras. They harrass and shame women and girls entering and leaving clinics to the point where they have to be escorted in for their safety- yep coordinated and they're doin it right now. Open your eyes.
What a **** jackelope you are.
If the Islamists were using the same tactics as the anti-abortionists we wouldn't be having our sacks tickled by fat 45 year old black women with "TSA" on their shirts.
Just saying.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:20 pm
by SeattleGriz
D1B wrote:Yeah, and Z(ero), you don't understand or acknowledge the severity of the focused, planned and continuous onslaught perpetrated by the christian right and catholic church on women and families seeking legal abortions and family planning services. They're picketing clinics all over the nation right now, hell Fatamountman was one of those assholes till I conviced him the catholic church is a crock of shit. They currently threaten doctors and clinic workers to the point where they have to hire security guards, wear bulletproof vests and install surveillence cameras. They harrass and shame women and girls entering and leaving clinics to the point where they have to be escorted in for their safety- yep coordinated and they're doin it right now. Open your eyes.
What a fucking jackelope you are.
Maybe they are just concerned over the womens health.
In April 2009, Brinton co-authored a research paper published in the prestigious journal Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers and Prevention, which concluded that the risk of a particularly deadly form of breast cancer that attacks women under 40 raises 40 percent if a woman has had an abortion.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:46 am
by LeadBolt
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
1. So, we should expect every Christian in America to get on national TV and denounce McVeigh and the abortion clinic bombers?
2. How is kicking someone out of your congregation for their extremist views NOT considered denunciation?
Grizalltheywayoutofyourleague, you might just want to stop while you're behind. Comparing the random and rare abortion clinic bomber to the focused, planned, continuous onslaught perpetrated by these peaceful people negates your argument before it begins.
If abortion clinics were being blown up on a weekly basis, then yes, I'd expect Christians to come out in force against the violence. But your argument has no merit.
+1
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:35 am
by houndawg
Islam evidently does a better job of controling the weak and stupid than chrisianity does.
The only difference between the two sets of wack jobs is that the ones that adhere to islam have seriously more balls than their christian equivalents.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:54 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
Appaholic wrote:
D1B wrote:
Yeah, and Z(ero), you don't understand or acknowledge the severity of the focused, planned and continuous onslaught perpetrated by the christian right and catholic church on women and families seeking legal abortions and family planning services. They're picketing clinics all over the nation right now, hell Fatamountman was one of those assholes till I conviced him the catholic church is a crock of shit. They currently threaten doctors and clinic workers to the point where they have to hire security guards, wear bulletproof vests and install surveillence cameras. They harrass and shame women and girls entering and leaving clinics to the point where they have to be escorted in for their safety- yep coordinated and they're doin it right now. Open your eyes.
What a fucking jackelope you are.
Obviously, those acts are on par with beheadings, bombings, honor mutilations, etc... ...go back to the needle clinic, cappywannabee....
It ain't cool what the god people do on these issues but Appa's point is a good launching spot for this...
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This is the original that the report refers to and it's pretty sickening the way this "offense" is handled.
[youtube][/youtube]
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:15 pm
by D1B
Appaholic wrote:
D1B wrote:
Yeah, and Z(ero), you don't understand or acknowledge the severity of the focused, planned and continuous onslaught perpetrated by the christian right and catholic church on women and families seeking legal abortions and family planning services. They're picketing clinics all over the nation right now, hell Fatamountman was one of those assholes till I conviced him the catholic church is a crock of shit. They currently threaten doctors and clinic workers to the point where they have to hire security guards, wear bulletproof vests and install surveillence cameras. They harrass and shame women and girls entering and leaving clinics to the point where they have to be escorted in for their safety- yep coordinated and they're doin it right now. Open your eyes.
What a fucking jackelope you are.
Obviously, those acts are on par with beheadings, bombings, honor mutilations, etc... ...go back to the needle clinic, cappywannabee....
Go fuck yourself, Caveman.
Did I say they were on par?
Just pointin out that you fucks, in a relative sense, are NO BETTER. And you have BOMBED clinics and you have MURDERED doctors and you continue to HARRASS girls who need help. That's radical shit in THIS country. You are OUR TERRORISTS to the point where....
The most dangerous place in america is an abortion clinic.
Let's not even get into fact that a born again christian launched a war with an innocent country and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
The ONLY thing keeping you chrisitian barbarian assholes from beheadin people - LIKE YOU USED TO DAILY, is the continued vigilence of atheist and freethinkers like me.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:20 pm
by D1B
houndawg wrote:Islam evidently does a better job of controling the weak and stupid than chrisianity does.
The only difference between the two sets of wack jobs is that the ones that adhere to islam have seriously more balls than their christian equivalents.
Not true.
Look at the Iraq War - we KNOWINGLY attack an innocent and defenseless nation - how is that not terrorism? We've killed a half a million people!
We're the world's leading terrorist right now.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:23 pm
by D1B
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Appaholic wrote:
Obviously, those acts are on par with beheadings, bombings, honor mutilations, etc... ...go back to the needle clinic, cappywannabee....
It ain't cool what the god people do on these issues but Appa's point is a good launching spot for this...
[youtube][/youtube]
This is the original that the report refers to and it's pretty sickening the way this "offense" is handled.
[youtube][/youtube]
Ursus, I've got a thousand for every one you come up with.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:25 pm
by D1B
houndawg wrote:Islam evidently does a better job of controling the weak and stupid than chrisianity does.
The only difference between the two sets of wack jobs is that the ones that adhere to islam have seriously more balls than their christian equivalents.
The only difference is we have better PR people.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:37 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
D1B wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
It ain't cool what the god people do on these issues but Appa's point is a good launching spot for this...
[youtube][/youtube]
This is the original that the report refers to and it's pretty sickening the way this "offense" is handled.
[youtube][/youtube]
Ursus, I've got a thousand for every one you come up with.
Hell, I guess I didn't realize we were in combat on this thing? If it were a battle then I think I could produce an equal amount but I wasn't saying that our dominant religions were good and theirs is bad.
I can't figure out why you would take a defensive stance on Islam here as it is an extremely destructive and violent religion as well.
Also, me & Appa are not exactly religious apologists my man.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:37 pm
by dbackjon
D1B wrote:
houndawg wrote:Islam evidently does a better job of controling the weak and stupid than chrisianity does.
The only difference between the two sets of wack jobs is that the ones that adhere to islam have seriously more balls than their christian equivalents.
The only difference is we have better PR people.
True Dat
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:39 pm
by D1B
LeadBolt wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheywayoutofyourleague, you might just want to stop while you're behind. Comparing the random and rare abortion clinic bomber to the focused, planned, continuous onslaught perpetrated by these peaceful people negates your argument before it begins.
If abortion clinics were being blown up on a weekly basis, then yes, I'd expect Christians to come out in force against the violence. But your argument has no merit.
+1
*We're killing people every day. Born again christian asshole George W. Bush started an unjust war with Iraq.
We've killed hundreds of thousands of people.
Photo by STEPHANIE SINCLAIR/Chicago Tribune
A mosque employee prepares the body of Lamiamh Ali, 6. Four siblings were playing outside their home in Baghdad when a U.S. cluster bomb exploded. Two of the children died that day and their brother died later as a result of his injuries. Photo taken April 26, 2003
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:48 pm
by D1B
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
D1B wrote:
Ursus, I've got a thousand for every one you come up with.
Hell, I guess I didn't realize we were in combat on this thing? If it were a battle then I think I could produce an equal amount but I wasn't saying that our dominant religions were good and theirs is bad.
I can't figure out why you would take a defensive stance on Islam here as it is an extremely destructive and violent religion as well.
Also, me & Appa are not exactly religious apologists my man.
Islam, Judaism and Christianity all suck dick big time. I aint so much defending islam, but more reminding the author that his religion (christianity) is no better, and considering the massive quantities of weapons of mass destruction at its disposal, is much worse. Also, OUR behaviors, our arrogance and greed and meddling in the affairs of others, have contributed to the problem of the Middle East.
Re: Peaceful Islam strikes again!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:55 pm
by CID1990
D1B wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Hell, I guess I didn't realize we were in combat on this thing? If it were a battle then I think I could produce an equal amount but I wasn't saying that our dominant religions were good and theirs is bad.
I can't figure out why you would take a defensive stance on Islam here as it is an extremely destructive and violent religion as well.
Also, me & Appa are not exactly religious apologists my man.
Islam, Judaism and Christianity all suck dick big time. I aint so much defending islam, but more reminding the author that his religion (christianity) is no better, and considering the massive quantities of weapons of mass destruction at its disposal, is much worse. Also, OUR behaviors, our arrogance and greed and meddling in the affairs of others, have contributed to the problem of the Middle East.
That's a novel theory you have, D. I've only heard it from about 3 million other knuckleheads who think they are somehow enlightened as to the causes of religious violence and everybody else needs to be told over and over and over again, ad nauseum.
We all get it:
Christianity = bad; Christians not qualified to comment on religious violence.
Islam = bad; but gets a pass since it has been oppressed by Chritianity for so long.
Why don't you surprise everybody, think future instead of past (the latter is quite easy, even chimpanzees can do it)?