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As soon as she announces, MSM will brand her a wacko, sight unseen.

SuperHornet wrote:As soon as she announces, MSM will brand her a wacko, sight unseen.

Um - she is a wacko. No debate on that. Even if you agree with most of her politics, she is a wacko.


Bring it on - her in the spotlight only helps Democrats. We gonna paint all you as Bachmann wackos...

Obama rolls to reelection easily, Dems re-take House!

dbackjon wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:As soon as she announces, MSM will brand her a wacko, sight unseen.

Um - she is a wacko. No debate on that. Even if you agree with most of her politics, she is a wacko.


Bring it on - her in the spotlight only helps Democrats. We gonna paint all you as Bachmann wackos...

Obama rolls to reelection easily, Dems re-take House!

I'm not even sure Obama wins the primary....

SuperHornet wrote:As soon as she announces, MSM will brand her a wacko, sight unseen.

Dude she's already been branded a wacko by MSM and everyone else. Want to know why? Cause she is wacko.

Even during her few rational moments she's a punchline. Less of a chance than Palin.

She will not run. Worst case, she splits the Palin vote, a solid GOP dude emerges, and Barry sinks into oblivion.

kalm wrote:Even during her few rational moments she's a punchline. Less of a chance than Palin.

You mean she's worse than the so-called witch?

Bachmann's got the crazy eyes. I like Palins cans better.

I think her best song is "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet"

Put 'em on the same ticket, we'll call it Dumb and Dumber and it just might work.

GWB could likely be relieved as the dumbest POTUS in our history in just a few short years.

Now that's saying something..

Bachmann is every bit as qualified as Obama was when he announced for the White House. The only difference between the two is that Bachmann is conservative and Obama is a liberal, therefore Obama was portrayed by the MSM as "a savior," a "transcendent politician," an "agent of change," and even "the annointed one" whereas Bachmann will be ridiculed and marginalized by that same media on a purely ideological basis; which will only serve yet again to prove that the only thing as dishonest as politicians is the lap dog media that covers them.

blueballs wrote:Bachmann is every bit as qualified as Obama was when he announced for the White House. The only difference between the two is that Bachmann is conservative and Obama is a liberal, therefore Obama was portrayed by the MSM as "a savior," a "transcendent politician," an "agent of change," and even "the annointed one" whereas Bachmann will be ridiculed and marginalized by that same media on a purely ideological basis; which will only serve yet again to prove that the only thing as dishonest as politicians is the lap dog media that covers them.

SuperHornet wrote:

blueballs wrote:Bachmann is every bit as qualified as Obama was when he announced for the White House. The only difference between the two is that Bachmann is conservative and Obama is a liberal, therefore Obama was portrayed by the MSM as "a savior," a "transcendent politician," an "agent of change," and even "the annointed one" whereas Bachmann will be ridiculed and marginalized by that same media on a purely ideological basis; which will only serve yet again to prove that the only thing as dishonest as politicians is the lap dog media that covers them.

Jesus Christ... ...seriously? You're going to defend Bachman? The "expandspanos" of the Republicans? The right-wing Kucinich? Your partisanship has become blind when you are willing to defend Bachman's ability to lead this country because she is a Reublican (BB) or a woman (SH). When you start doing that, you're no better than professional left-wing who support Pelosi, Feinstien & Waters.....

Appaholic wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:

Jesus Christ... ...seriously? You're going to defend Bachman? The "expandspanos" of the Republicans? The right-wing Kucinich? Your partisanship has become blind when you are willing to defend Bachman's ability to lead this country because she is a Reublican (BB) or a woman (SH). When you start doing that, you're no better than professional left-wing who support Pelosi, Feinstien & Waters.....

blueballs wrote:Bachmann is every bit as qualified as Obama was when he announced for the White House. The only difference between the two is that Bachmann is conservative and Obama is a liberal, therefore Obama was portrayed by the MSM as "a savior," a "transcendent politician," an "agent of change," and even "the annointed one" whereas Bachmann will be ridiculed and marginalized by that same media on a purely ideological basis; which will only serve yet again to prove that the only thing as dishonest as politicians is the lap dog media that covers them.

what a complete pant load.

Michele Bachmann is an unhinged housewife from Stillwater who fluked her way in to a political career by being more extreme and base-pandering than any politician I have EVER encountered on EITHER side. I should know, I was in the room in 1998 when she, a delegate to a Senate District Convention, got up and gave a cuckoo for cocoa puffs speech railing against the incumbent moderate Republican in the House, and was immediately nominated from the floor and defeated a 12 year incumbent for the endorsement. (the whole thing was plotted in advance by her and her cabal of nutter bar moms who decided pestering the local school about teaching science wasn't enough)

Bachmann is actual, for real, CRAZY. Obama was a moderate politician who had commanding presence and excellent stage craft - and was brilliant at messaging. Nothing less, nothing more. Gripe all you want about how he was treated by the press in '08... but it's bunk. He was treated that way by the press because his campaign had it's shit together, had a great, easy to understand (if banal) message that resonated. It was so simple that it was brilliant, and well executed. Bachmann on the other hand goes so far off the script and reservation, and with such alarming frequency as to render questions about her mental health legitimate and serious.

I've spent a career around Bachmann - I know her as well as an operative can know an opponent... so, here are the top 10 why she's got no f'ing shot.

1. she's erratic and shifts strategies all the damn time - and as such burns through staff at an alarming rate.
2. she cant hide the crazy long enough... her meltdown in '08 on Hardball was not her only meltdown, it's just the one the whole country saw. we had been needling her for months with a direct-mail campaign that was proving very successful - begging her to go on TV and attack us - when she finally snapped thanks in part to that, and sinking poll numbers
3. her husband... gayer than dbackjon folks... not as gay as travis, but damnit, he's trying. (i'm not kidding one bit by the way)
4. the "pray away the gay" camp that her and her husband run... the one where the kids either "succeed" or kill themselves, at an alarming rate... we didn't have the resources to investigate this fully when I worked against her, but there was a lot of smoke - and someone with a real research shop would be able to get the full story.
5. tim pawlenty - splitting her MN base.
6. sarah palin - splitting the 40 women still left in the GOP
7. the "creeping in the bushes" incident
8. her hatred of seeing herself in caricature... it's borderline pathological... it's also why we did it when i worked against her, repeatedly
9. America isn't Minnesota's 6th District, gerrymandered safe and as right-wing as it gets
10. She'll eventually say something so racist/homophobic/religiously bigoted that most sane people drop their jaw that a politician just really said that...

Rational thought - 1
Irrational Partisonship/BB/SH - 0

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

blueballs wrote:Bachmann is every bit as qualified as Obama was when he announced for the White House. The only difference between the two is that Bachmann is conservative and Obama is a liberal, therefore Obama was portrayed by the MSM as "a savior," a "transcendent politician," an "agent of change," and even "the annointed one" whereas Bachmann will be ridiculed and marginalized by that same media on a purely ideological basis; which will only serve yet again to prove that the only thing as dishonest as politicians is the lap dog media that covers them.

what a complete pant load.

Michele Bachmann is an unhinged housewife from Stillwater who fluked her way in to a political career by being more extreme and base-pandering than any politician I have EVER encountered on EITHER side. I should know, I was in the room in 1998 when she, a delegate to a Senate District Convention, got up and gave a cuckoo for cocoa puffs speech railing against the incumbent moderate Republican in the House, and was immediately nominated from the floor and defeated a 12 year incumbent for the endorsement. (the whole thing was plotted in advance by her and her cabal of nutter bar moms who decided pestering the local school about teaching science wasn't enough)

Bachmann is actual, for real, CRAZY. Obama was a moderate politician who had commanding presence and excellent stage craft - and was brilliant at messaging. Nothing less, nothing more. Gripe all you want about how he was treated by the press in '08... but it's bunk. He was treated that way by the press because his campaign had it's shit together, had a great, easy to understand (if banal) message that resonated. It was so simple that it was brilliant, and well executed. Bachmann on the other hand goes so far off the script and reservation, and with such alarming frequency as to render questions about her mental health legitimate and serious.

I've spent a career around Bachmann - I know her as well as an operative can know an opponent... so, here are the top 10 why she's got no f'ing shot.

1. she's erratic and shifts strategies all the damn time - and as such burns through staff at an alarming rate.
2. she cant hide the crazy long enough... her meltdown in '08 on Hardball was not her only meltdown, it's just the one the whole country saw. we had been needling her for months with a direct-mail campaign that was proving very successful - begging her to go on TV and attack us - when she finally snapped thanks in part to that, and sinking poll numbers
3. her husband... gayer than dbackjon folks... not as gay as travis, but damnit, he's trying. (i'm not kidding one bit by the way)
4. the "pray away the gay" camp that her and her husband run... the one where the kids either "succeed" or kill themselves, at an alarming rate... we didn't have the resources to investigate this fully when I worked against her, but there was a lot of smoke - and someone with a real research shop would be able to get the full story.
5. tim pawlenty - splitting her MN base.
6. sarah palin - splitting the 40 women still left in the GOP
7. the "creeping in the bushes" incident
8. her hatred of seeing herself in caricature... it's borderline pathological... it's also why we did it when i worked against her, repeatedly
9. America isn't Minnesota's 6th District, gerrymandered safe and as right-wing as it gets
10. She'll eventually say something so racist/homophobic/religiously bigoted that most sane people drop their jaw that a politician just really said that...

In other words, she is representative of her base, the Religlicans and the Retardlicans, who are basically the same as GWBs.

It's deja vu all over again!!

Wedgebuster wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
what a complete pant load.

Michele Bachmann is an unhinged housewife from Stillwater who fluked her way in to a political career by being more extreme and base-pandering than any politician I have EVER encountered on EITHER side. I should know, I was in the room in 1998 when she, a delegate to a Senate District Convention, got up and gave a cuckoo for cocoa puffs speech railing against the incumbent moderate Republican in the House, and was immediately nominated from the floor and defeated a 12 year incumbent for the endorsement. (the whole thing was plotted in advance by her and her cabal of nutter bar moms who decided pestering the local school about teaching science wasn't enough)

Bachmann is actual, for real, CRAZY. Obama was a moderate politician who had commanding presence and excellent stage craft - and was brilliant at messaging. Nothing less, nothing more. Gripe all you want about how he was treated by the press in '08... but it's bunk. He was treated that way by the press because his campaign had it's shit together, had a great, easy to understand (if banal) message that resonated. It was so simple that it was brilliant, and well executed. Bachmann on the other hand goes so far off the script and reservation, and with such alarming frequency as to render questions about her mental health legitimate and serious.

I've spent a career around Bachmann - I know her as well as an operative can know an opponent... so, here are the top 10 why she's got no f'ing shot.

1. she's erratic and shifts strategies all the damn time - and as such burns through staff at an alarming rate.
2. she cant hide the crazy long enough... her meltdown in '08 on Hardball was not her only meltdown, it's just the one the whole country saw. we had been needling her for months with a direct-mail campaign that was proving very successful - begging her to go on TV and attack us - when she finally snapped thanks in part to that, and sinking poll numbers
3. her husband... gayer than dbackjon folks... not as gay as travis, but damnit, he's trying. (i'm not kidding one bit by the way)
4. the "pray away the gay" camp that her and her husband run... the one where the kids either "succeed" or kill themselves, at an alarming rate... we didn't have the resources to investigate this fully when I worked against her, but there was a lot of smoke - and someone with a real research shop would be able to get the full story.
5. tim pawlenty - splitting her MN base.
6. sarah palin - splitting the 40 women still left in the GOP
7. the "creeping in the bushes" incident
8. her hatred of seeing herself in caricature... it's borderline pathological... it's also why we did it when i worked against her, repeatedly
9. America isn't Minnesota's 6th District, gerrymandered safe and as right-wing as it gets
10. She'll eventually say something so racist/homophobic/religiously bigoted that most sane people drop their jaw that a politician just really said that...

In other words, she is representative of her base, the Religlicans and the Retardlicans, who are basically the same as GWBs.

It's deja vu all over again!!

GWB is rational, intellectual, moderate and likeable compared to Bachmann.

dbackjon wrote:

Wedgebuster wrote:



In other words, she is representative of her base, the Religlicans and the Retardlicans, who are basically the same as GWBs.

It's deja vu all over again!!

GWB is rational, intellectual, moderate and likeable compared to Bachmann.

I agree, but his base was not.

dbackjon wrote:Rational thought - 1
Irrational Partisonship/BB/SH - 0

...and a big STRIKE 1 to all of you who have completely missed my point.

The point I made is not that Bachmann is qualified or fit to serve, it is that she is every bit as qualified and as fit to serve as Barack Obama was at the same stage of his political career yet Obama's faults and shortcomings were trivialized when they weren't totally ignored by his lapdog media whereas conservatives like Bachmann or Pailn are held up to ridicule.... and that's peanuts compared to the way Nancy Pelosi has been covered by the MSM over the past four years.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

blueballs wrote:Bachmann is every bit as qualified as Obama was when he announced for the White House. The only difference between the two is that Bachmann is conservative and Obama is a liberal, therefore Obama was portrayed by the MSM as "a savior," a "transcendent politician," an "agent of change," and even "the annointed one" whereas Bachmann will be ridiculed and marginalized by that same media on a purely ideological basis; which will only serve yet again to prove that the only thing as dishonest as politicians is the lap dog media that covers them.

what a complete pant load.

Michele Bachmann is an unhinged housewife from Stillwater who fluked her way in to a political career by being more extreme and base-pandering than any politician I have EVER encountered on EITHER side. I should know, I was in the room in 1998 when she, a delegate to a Senate District Convention, got up and gave a cuckoo for cocoa puffs speech railing against the incumbent moderate Republican in the House, and was immediately nominated from the floor and defeated a 12 year incumbent for the endorsement. (the whole thing was plotted in advance by her and her cabal of nutter bar moms who decided pestering the local school about teaching science wasn't enough)

Bachmann is actual, for real, CRAZY. Obama was a moderate politician who had commanding presence and excellent stage craft - and was brilliant at messaging. Nothing less, nothing more. Gripe all you want about how he was treated by the press in '08... but it's bunk. He was treated that way by the press because his campaign had it's **** together, had a great, easy to understand (if banal) message that resonated. It was so simple that it was brilliant, and well executed. Bachmann on the other hand goes so far off the script and reservation, and with such alarming frequency as to render questions about her mental health legitimate and serious.

I've spent a career around Bachmann - I know her as well as an operative can know an opponent... so, here are the top 10 why she's got no f'ing shot.

1. she's erratic and shifts strategies all the damn time - and as such burns through staff at an alarming rate.
2. she cant hide the crazy long enough... her meltdown in '08 on Hardball was not her only meltdown, it's just the one the whole country saw. we had been needling her for months with a direct-mail campaign that was proving very successful - begging her to go on TV and attack us - when she finally snapped thanks in part to that, and sinking poll numbers
3. her husband... gayer than dbackjon folks... not as gay as travis, but damnit, he's trying. (i'm not kidding one bit by the way)
4. the "pray away the gay" camp that her and her husband run... the one where the kids either "succeed" or kill themselves, at an alarming rate... we didn't have the resources to investigate this fully when I worked against her, but there was a lot of smoke - and someone with a real research shop would be able to get the full story.
5. tim pawlenty - splitting her MN base.
6. sarah palin - splitting the 40 women still left in the GOP
7. the "creeping in the bushes" incident
8. her hatred of seeing herself in caricature... it's borderline pathological... it's also why we did it when i worked against her, repeatedly
9. America isn't Minnesota's 6th District, gerrymandered safe and as right-wing as it gets
10. She'll eventually say something so racist/homophobic/religiously bigoted that most sane people drop their jaw that a politician just really said that...

If she is really all that and more, then you must really suck at your job.

blueballs wrote:
The point I made is not that Bachmann is qualified or fit to serve, it is that she is every bit as qualified and as fit to serve as Barack Obama was at the same stage of his political career

Sure, they're both one term congressional members at the moment. Point taken, and I'm sure everyone read into the subtlety of it.


One BIG, self admitted difference, between Bachmann and Obama, Bachmann hasn't done anything significant during her tenure... and she's admitted this, citing "I am in the deep minority in Congress and a fairly new freshman, so I don't have substantive bills that I have passed. "


Bachmann's tenure as a Congresswoman: Sponsored 31 bills since 2007... none have made it out of committee

Obama's tenure as a Congressman: Sponsored 121 bills since 2005, 115 didn't make it out of committee, 3 were enacted.


This doesn't take into account Cosponsored bills that were enacted.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

blueballs wrote:Bachmann is every bit as qualified as Obama was when he announced for the White House. The only difference between the two is that Bachmann is conservative and Obama is a liberal, therefore Obama was portrayed by the MSM as "a savior," a "transcendent politician," an "agent of change," and even "the annointed one" whereas Bachmann will be ridiculed and marginalized by that same media on a purely ideological basis; which will only serve yet again to prove that the only thing as dishonest as politicians is the lap dog media that covers them.

what a complete pant load.

Michele Bachmann is an unhinged housewife from Stillwater who fluked her way in to a political career by being more extreme and base-pandering than any politician I have EVER encountered on EITHER side. I should know, I was in the room in 1998 when she, a delegate to a Senate District Convention, got up and gave a cuckoo for cocoa puffs speech railing against the incumbent moderate Republican in the House, and was immediately nominated from the floor and defeated a 12 year incumbent for the endorsement. (the whole thing was plotted in advance by her and her cabal of nutter bar moms who decided pestering the local school about teaching science wasn't enough)

Bachmann is actual, for real, CRAZY. Obama was a moderate politician who had commanding presence and excellent stage craft - and was brilliant at messaging. Nothing less, nothing more. Gripe all you want about how he was treated by the press in '08... but it's bunk. He was treated that way by the press because his campaign had it's **** together, had a great, easy to understand (if banal) message that resonated. It was so simple that it was brilliant, and well executed. Bachmann on the other hand goes so far off the script and reservation, and with such alarming frequency as to render questions about her mental health legitimate and serious.

I've spent a career around Bachmann - I know her as well as an operative can know an opponent... so, here are the top 10 why she's got no f'ing shot.

1. she's erratic and shifts strategies all the damn time - and as such burns through staff at an alarming rate.
2. she cant hide the crazy long enough... her meltdown in '08 on Hardball was not her only meltdown, it's just the one the whole country saw. we had been needling her for months with a direct-mail campaign that was proving very successful - begging her to go on TV and attack us - when she finally snapped thanks in part to that, and sinking poll numbers
3. her husband... gayer than dbackjon folks... not as gay as travis, but damnit, he's trying. (i'm not kidding one bit by the way)
4. the "pray away the gay" camp that her and her husband run... the one where the kids either "succeed" or kill themselves, at an alarming rate... we didn't have the resources to investigate this fully when I worked against her, but there was a lot of smoke - and someone with a real research shop would be able to get the full story.
5. tim pawlenty - splitting her MN base.
6. sarah palin - splitting the 40 women still left in the GOP
7. the "creeping in the bushes" incident
8. her hatred of seeing herself in caricature... it's borderline pathological... it's also why we did it when i worked against her, repeatedly
9. America isn't Minnesota's 6th District, gerrymandered safe and as right-wing as it gets
10. She'll eventually say something so racist/homophobic/religiously bigoted that most sane people drop their jaw that a politician just really said that...

11. She rejected my advances.

blueballs wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Rational thought - 1
Irrational Partisonship/BB/SH - 0

...and a big STRIKE 1 to all of you who have completely missed my point.

The point I made is not that Bachmann is qualified or fit to serve, it is that she is every bit as qualified and as fit to serve as Barack Obama was at the same stage of his political career

Are you really trying to compare someone a freshman representative who won her seat in a gerrymandered right leaning seat to a senator who won a state wide Senate election? C'mon. That's really grasping at straws. I know you love any chance you can to throw the media under the bus, but you're really reaching.

The reason any freshman representative gets any publicity like Bachmann gets is because she asks for it. She's the little girl sitting in the corner screaming at the top of her lungs about stupid shit because she wants attention. Which is fine I guess, but then you can't really complain when you get found out to be what you are -- a lunatic.