Questions about legality of many Obama campaign donations

[lifesapuntreturn]

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_ ... 48218.html
"Obama Fundraising Sealed Election Win"
by Jim Myers
Newsmax.com
November 5, 2008

Hmmmm. Stay tuned.

[dbackjon]

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_ ... 48218.html
"Obama Fundraising Sealed Election Win"
by Jim Myers
Newsmax.com
November 5, 2008

Hmmmm. Stay tuned.

What is there to stay tuned to?

[dbackjon]

My IQ just sank reading that drivel...

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

650M/3M donors comes up to $217.00 per donor. In other words it's not donations from special interests and big donations form industries have less effect when you have this many people giving small donations. If I'm reading this right then it seems very likely to me that Obama may have came up with the answer on his own for campaign finance reform. Just sayin'...

[dbackjon]

650M/3M donors comes up to $217.00 per donor. In other words it's not donations from special interests and big donations form industries have less effect when you have this many people giving small donations. If I'm reading this right then it seems very likely to me that Obama may have came up with the answer on his own for campaign finance reform. Just sayin'...

Yup - and that is the part that the Republicans don't like - Obama is not beholden to the special interest groups, because his money came from EVERYONE.



Were there contributions that are illegal in there? I am sure there are. It happens in every campaign. McCain has illegal contributions. When the campaigns think something is fishy, they return checks. Happens all the time.

[citdog]

My IQ just sank reading that drivel...

don't have much of a trip to "hit bottom" either!

hmm dback and "hit bottom" if you add appaholic that sums up his missoula trip

[dbackjon]

My IQ just sank reading that drivel...

don't have much of a trip to "hit bottom" either!

hmm dback and "hit bottom" if you add appaholic that sums up his missoula trip

[lifesapuntreturn]

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_ ... 48218.html
"Obama Fundraising Sealed Election Win"
by Jim Myers
Newsmax.com
November 5, 2008

Hmmmm. Stay tuned.

What is there to stay tuned to?

Pretending there isn't a huge problem here with foreign donations, which are illegal, is not going to make this go away. It will be the foremost scandal, among several, that will make Obama a one-termer. There's still a lot to learn about him and the more that comes out about him, the bigger his problems will become.

As I said, stay tuned.

[travelinman67]

Yup - and that is the part that the Republicans don't like - Obama is not beholden to the special interest groups, because his money came from EVERYONE.

Were there contributions that are illegal in there? I am sure there are. It happens in every campaign. McCain has illegal contributions. When the campaigns think something is fishy, they return checks. Happens all the time.

Three words Capote breath..."Prepaid Credit Cards".

The Justice Department has already been asked to initiate an investigation since the FEC refused to intercede and issue an estoppel order against the Obama campaign's allowance of unverifed credit card donations. A pile of these have already been traced to a group of SEIU representatives that had been distributing them to friends/family/members/homeless/toothless New Jersy residents, etc... Moreso, spot checks even found untraceable donations from overseas, again, due to the "unverified" source problem with the Obama website.
Since the banks/credit card companies by default block unverified credit card transactions, there would have to have been a conscious act on the part of the Obama campaign treasurer/website developer to instruct the banks to allow unverified card donations (which, from what I've heard, is the focus of the investigation...going to intent).

This is just the tip of the iceberg. There's several other cases being investigated in which the FEC filings submitted by the campaign don't reconcile with their treasurer's report and outside audit. In some cases, it appears that transactions later found to be illegal were blatantly reversed without notation, and no record of the funds being returned or accounted for. Being a bean counter yourself, dback, you know that absent bank records being erased, even if all the campaign records are destroyed (irrelevant in many cases as copies have already been filed with the FEC), there's no way their campaign can hide all the shenanigans.
While I doubt Obama's head will meet the block over this, I DO suspect there'll be some hefty civil penalties assessed, including some possible punitive, and the FEC will be ordered to codify mandatory enforcement and funding to prevent this in the future...ergo, Hamas will have to go back to building shopping centers in Scottsdale to launder their donations through American corps.

[Appaholic]

My IQ just sank reading that drivel...

don't have much of a trip to "hit bottom" either!

hmm.....Travis and "hit bottom"....if you add Citdog that sums up an education at El Cid

Accuracy is fun!

[Appaholic]

Yup - and that is the part that the Republicans don't like - Obama is not beholden to the special interest groups, because his money came from EVERYONE.

Were there contributions that are illegal in there? I am sure there are. It happens in every campaign. McCain has illegal contributions. When the campaigns think something is fishy, they return checks. Happens all the time.

Three words Capote breath..."Prepaid Credit Cards".

The Justice Department has already been asked to initiate an investigation since the FEC refused to intercede and issue an estoppel order against the Obama campaign's allowance of unverifed credit card donations. A pile of these have already been traced to a group of SEIU representatives that had been distributing them to friends/family/members/homeless/toothless New Jersy residents, etc... Moreso, spot checks even found untraceable donations from overseas, again, due to the "unverified" source problem with the Obama website.
Since the banks/credit card companies by default block unverified credit card transactions, there would have to have been a conscious act on the part of the Obama campaign treasurer/website developer to instruct the banks to allow unverified card donations (which, from what I've heard, is the focus of the investigation...going to intent).

This is just the tip of the iceberg. There's several other cases being investigated in which the FEC filings submitted by the campaign don't reconcile with their treasurer's report and outside audit. In some cases, it appears that transactions later found to be illegal were blatantly reversed without notation, and no record of the funds being returned or accounted for. Being a bean counter yourself, dback, you know that absent bank records being erased, even if all the campaign records are destroyed (irrelevant in many cases as copies have already been filed with the FEC), there's no way their campaign can hide all the shenanigans.
While I doubt Obama's head will meet the block over this, I DO suspect there'll be some hefty civil penalties assessed, including some possible punitive, and the FEC will be ordered to codify mandatory enforcement and funding to prevent this in the future...ergo, Hamas will have to go back to building shopping centers in Scottsdale to launder their donations through American corps.

These aren't the same credit cards that DoD employees were using to buy lap dances during Rumsfeld's tenure there, are they?

[travelinman67]

Three words Capote breath..."Prepaid Credit Cards".

The Justice Department has already been asked to initiate an investigation since the FEC refused to intercede and issue an estoppel order against the Obama campaign's allowance of unverifed credit card donations. A pile of these have already been traced to a group of SEIU representatives that had been distributing them to friends/family/members/homeless/toothless New Jersy residents, etc... Moreso, spot checks even found untraceable donations from overseas, again, due to the "unverified" source problem with the Obama website.
Since the banks/credit card companies by default block unverified credit card transactions, there would have to have been a conscious act on the part of the Obama campaign treasurer/website developer to instruct the banks to allow unverified card donations (which, from what I've heard, is the focus of the investigation...going to intent).

This is just the tip of the iceberg. There's several other cases being investigated in which the FEC filings submitted by the campaign don't reconcile with their treasurer's report and outside audit. In some cases, it appears that transactions later found to be illegal were blatantly reversed without notation, and no record of the funds being returned or accounted for. Being a bean counter yourself, dback, you know that absent bank records being erased, even if all the campaign records are destroyed (irrelevant in many cases as copies have already been filed with the FEC), there's no way their campaign can hide all the shenanigans.
While I doubt Obama's head will meet the block over this, I DO suspect there'll be some hefty civil penalties assessed, including some possible punitive, and the FEC will be ordered to codify mandatory enforcement and funding to prevent this in the future...ergo, Hamas will have to go back to building shopping centers in Scottsdale to launder their donations through American corps.

These aren't the same credit cards that DoD employees were using to buy lap dances during Rumsfeld's tenure there, are they?

Damn, your funny, Travis.

[Cap'n Cat]

Leave the bitterness at the voting booth, Conks. Move on and embrace your new prez.

[D1B]

Leave the bitterness at the voting booth, Conks. Move on and embrace your new prez.

Yes conks, repeat after me:

YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN

[Cap'n Cat]

Or move to Iran.

[grizzaholic]

Leave the bitterness at the voting booth, Conks. Move on and embrace your new prez.

Hey, I hope he does a good job. I don't speak ill of the POTUS, it doesn't matter who it is.

[Cap'n Cat]

Leave the bitterness at the voting booth, Conks. Move on and embrace your new prez.

Hey, I hope he does a good job. I don't speak ill of the POTUS, it doesn't matter who it is.

That's good, Holly. Tell your friends here. They demanded we do the same thing for DubyaConk.

[grizzaholic]

Hey, I hope he does a good job. I don't speak ill of the POTUS, it doesn't matter who it is.

That's good, Holly. Tell your friends here. They demanded we do the same thing for DubyaConk.

I don't demand it, I just think that the POTUS should be held in high regard and spoke of with respect. One may disagree with his actions but shouldn't bad mouth him/her just for the sake of bad mouthing. It kind of goes for everyone on both sides.

[Cap'n Cat]

That's good, Holly. Tell your friends here. They demanded we do the same thing for DubyaConk.

I don't demand it, I just think that the POTUS should be held in high regard and spoke of with respect. One may disagree with his actions but shouldn't bad mouth him/her just for the sake of bad mouthing. It kind of goes for everyone on both sides.

Hey, I know what you mean. I've supported Dubya from Day One and have NEVER cracked on him. He is God.

[grizzaholic]

I don't demand it, I just think that the POTUS should be held in high regard and spoke of with respect. One may disagree with his actions but shouldn't bad mouth him/her just for the sake of bad mouthing. It kind of goes for everyone on both sides.

Hey, I know what you mean. I've supported Dubya from Day One and have NEVER cracked on him. He is God.

So if UNI either doesn't make the playoffs or gets ousted in the first round, will it be Dubya's fault or Montana's fault.?

[Cap'n Cat]

So if UNI either doesn't make the playoffs or gets ousted in the first round, will it be Dubya's fault or Montana's fault.?

Hey, I've been havin' pre-mo-nishuns about a UNI/UM first-rounder at UNI!

Worship the ground I walk on when it happens. 'Course UM goes home for the rest of the year.........

[grizzaholic]

So if UNI either doesn't make the playoffs or gets ousted in the first round, will it be Dubya's fault or Montana's fault.?

Hey, I've been havin' pre-mo-nishuns about a UNI/UM first-rounder at UNI!

Worship the ground I walk on when it happens. 'Course UM goes home for the rest of the year.........

If that happens I will.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

So if UNI either doesn't make the playoffs or gets ousted in the first round, will it be Dubya's fault or Montana's fault.?

Hey, I've been havin' pre-mo-nishuns about a UNI/UM first-rounder at UNI!

Worship the ground I walk on when it happens. 'Course UM goes home for the rest of the year.........

Last time we played at UNI I think it was in 1986...was that in the uNI Dome or did that come about after that game?

[Cap'n Cat]

Hey, I've been havin' pre-mo-nishuns about a UNI/UM first-rounder at UNI!

Worship the ground I walk on when it happens. 'Course UM goes home for the rest of the year.........

Last time we played at UNI I think it was in 1986...was that in the uNI Dome or did that come about after that game?

First game in the Dome was in 1976.

[Appaholic]

These aren't the same credit cards that DoD employees were using to buy lap dances during Rumsfeld's tenure there, are they?

Damn, your funny, Travis.

Nice dodge and feint, Baldy!