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The Post did a lot of good campaign coverage, but readers have been consistently critical of the lack of probing issues coverage and what they see as a tilt toward Democratic candidate Barack Obama. My surveys show that they are right on both counts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02895.html

BigApp wrote:

The Post did a lot of good campaign coverage, but readers have been consistently critical of the lack of probing issues coverage and what they see as a tilt toward Democratic candidate Barack Obama. My surveys show that they are right on both counts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02895.html

Fv(k Faux News and there lying Conk RushHannityO'Reillygurgitation bullsh!t. Bush lied and murdered millions of people, killiing little children and puppy dogs to get rich while his uber bible thumping white male racists abused women throughout the world.

WHOA!!!

What the hell was that...for a moment there, I was possessed by the spirit of Nonsensical Non-responsive Dumby Dem!

This article is from Deborah Howell, the ombuds(wo)man - she's actually been very consistent in her criticism of the Post's heavy pro-Obama slant just in news stories alone (let alone editorials and columnists). Even Howie Kurtz, the media professor columnist who's generally pretty even-handed and middle of the road, is in bed with Obama. And with George Will's ongoing feud with McCain over McCain-Feingold, only Charles Krauthammer and Mike Gerson lent any conk-biased balance to the Post - and they were both basically shouted down by their colleagues...

Will we ever see that admission from Faux??

dbackjon wrote:Will we ever see that admission from Faux??

Admission of being something they're not. Jon, repeatedly INDEPENDENT studies and polls have found Fox to be either the top or near the top in their balance of coverage. The ethics failure lies not with Fox, but with the advocates of social engineering schemes who are either ignorant, oblivious, in denial, or flat out dishonest about their agendas.

From your perspective, the "fighters for equality" who travel to Salt Lake City and demonstrate against the LDS church's advocacy against same-sex marriage are wholly justified in their activities.

From another's perspective, any group that organizes to silence the political lobby of any group of Christian's who oppose a "progressive" social change agenda, are, in fact attempting to suppress the religious beliefs and practices that are currently constitutionally protected, making those demonstrators as morally reprehensible as hateful freaks like Phelps. Whether you agree with the LDS religious/political belief, or not, it is their religious belief, which has biblical justification, and absent a revision to the constitution, is a lawfully just position...whether you like it or not.

What, independent studies by Fox?

Anyone that believes that Fox does not have an agenda themselves is a fool.

dbackjon wrote:What, independent studies by Fox?

Anyone that believes that Fox does not have an agenda themselves is a fool.

I didn't say Fox didn't have an agenda, I said that studies consistently show they are either at or near the top in their "balance" of viewpoints, which none of the other MSM can claim.

Re: studies, this is a dead horse I've flogged over and over and over again...from UCLA to Georgetown to U of Illinois and confirmed during this election cycle by none other than the Pew Center, which themselves advocate left leaning positions with their projects. Hell, even all the MSM talking heads are now "outing" themselves as spinning leftist positions, since it has become fashionable to sell the notion that journalists have no ethical responsibility to report all the news in a fair and balanced perspective.

You know where I sit on this Jon...once we start down the slippery slope of excusing or dismissing the importance of "notions" like fairness, ethics or moral responsibility, the fall is a long, long way down, and could take centuries to reverse. And when "fairness" is no longer compulsory, where will you find that silly notion of humanitarianism?

dbackjon wrote:
Anyone that believes that Fox does not have an agenda themselves is a fool.

do you think Ed Rendell is a "fool"?

see for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkejwWGYNqw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BspCUHqXME0&NR=1

BigApp wrote:

The Post did a lot of good campaign coverage, but readers have been consistently critical of the lack of probing issues coverage and what they see as a tilt toward Democratic candidate Barack Obama. My surveys show that they are right on both counts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02895.html

And in other breaking news, the sun will rise in the EAST tomorrow.

travelinman67 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What, independent studies by Fox?

Anyone that believes that Fox does not have an agenda themselves is a fool.

I didn't say Fox didn't have an agenda, I said that studies consistently show they are either at or near the top in their "balance" of viewpoints, which none of the other MSM can claim.

Re: studies, this is a dead horse I've flogged over and over and over again...from UCLA to Georgetown to U of Illinois and confirmed during this election cycle by none other than the Pew Center, which themselves advocate left leaning positions with their projects. Hell, even all the MSM talking heads are now "outing" themselves as spinning leftist positions, since it has become fashionable to sell the notion that journalists have no ethical responsibility to report all the news in a fair and balanced perspective.

You know where I sit on this Jon...once we start down the slippery slope of excusing or dismissing the importance of "notions" like fairness, ethics or moral responsibility, the fall is a long, long way down, and could take centuries to reverse. And when "fairness" is no longer compulsory, where will you find that silly notion of humanitarianism?

Oh, blow it out your ass. The media treated your message of hate responsibly and fairly.

D1B wrote:

travelinman67 wrote: I didn't say Fox didn't have an agenda, I said that studies consistently show they are either at or near the top in their "balance" of viewpoints, which none of the other MSM can claim.

Re: studies, this is a dead horse I've flogged over and over and over again...from UCLA to Georgetown to U of Illinois and confirmed during this election cycle by none other than the Pew Center, which themselves advocate left leaning positions with their projects. Hell, even all the MSM talking heads are now "outing" themselves as spinning leftist positions, since it has become fashionable to sell the notion that journalists have no ethical responsibility to report all the news in a fair and balanced perspective.

You know where I sit on this Jon...once we start down the slippery slope of excusing or dismissing the importance of "notions" like fairness, ethics or moral responsibility, the fall is a long, long way down, and could take centuries to reverse. And when "fairness" is no longer compulsory, where will you find that silly notion of humanitarianism?

Oh, blow it out your ass. The media treated your message of hate responsibly and fairly.

Denial is a river in Egypt, pal. You're starting to sound like Ralph with your over-the-top defense of an industry that has become a running joke.

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote: Oh, blow it out your ass. The media treated your message of hate responsibly and fairly.

Denial is a river in Egypt, pal. You're starting to sound like Ralph with your over-the-top defense of an industry that has become a running joke.

Hey, I understand where you're coming from. It's human nature to blame others for your failures. It's easier too. I also understand your own personal investment in this election and you REALLY went out on a limb. Get over it. The media hasn't changed, the country has. Using fear and hatred to win elections is finally a thing of the past.

D1B wrote: Hey, I understand where you're coming from. It's human nature to blame others for your failures. It's easier too. I also understand your own personal investment in this election and you REALLY went out on a limb. Get over it. The media hasn't changed, the country has. Using fear and hatred to win elections is finally a thing of the past.

The media is a joke, and denial of such is pure blindness on your part. The media is merely an element of propaganda used by both sides. Using hatred and fear may be a thing of the past, but apparently cheating isn't, huh (does ACORN ring a bell)? I realize you and Cap spent some time in Chicago, but it should scare the living fcuk out of you that this country is now in the hands of the most corrupt political machine ever invented.

And, FYI, the only personal investment I had in this election went out the window @ about 9:30 p.m. on Tuesday night when it became apparent I wasn't going to be elected to the school board. I have very little (as in NONE) investment in the presidency. I didn't send anybody a dime....didn't sit on any phone banks....didn't have a sign in my front yard. Zip. Nada. None.

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote: Hey, I understand where you're coming from. It's human nature to blame others for your failures. It's easier too. I also understand your own personal investment in this election and you REALLY went out on a limb. Get over it. The media hasn't changed, the country has. Using fear and hatred to win elections is finally a thing of the past.

The media is a joke, and denial of such is pure blindness on your part. The media is merely an element of propaganda used by both sides. Using hatred and fear may be a thing of the past, but apparently cheating isn't, huh (does ACORN ring a bell)? I realize you and Cap spent some time in Chicago, but it should scare the living fcuk out of you that this country is now in the hands of the most corrupt political machine ever invented.

And, FYI, the only personal investment I had in this election went out the window @ about 9:30 p.m. on Tuesday night when it became apparent I wasn't going to be elected to the school board. I have very little (as in NONE) investment in the presidency. I didn't send anybody a dime....didn't sit on any phone banks....didn't have a sign in my front yard. Zip. Nada. None.

Sorry bout the school board. They missed out on a good one in you.

BTW, I have a storage shed full of McInsaneinthemembrane/Palin signs! I must have at least 100. I'm burning em this week along with a couple tons of leaves.

YES WE CAN!!!

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: The media is a joke, and denial of such is pure blindness on your part. The media is merely an element of propaganda used by both sides. Using hatred and fear may be a thing of the past, but apparently cheating isn't, huh (does ACORN ring a bell)? I realize you and Cap spent some time in Chicago, but it should scare the living fcuk out of you that this country is now in the hands of the most corrupt political machine ever invented.

And, FYI, the only personal investment I had in this election went out the window @ about 9:30 p.m. on Tuesday night when it became apparent I wasn't going to be elected to the school board. I have very little (as in NONE) investment in the presidency. I didn't send anybody a dime....didn't sit on any phone banks....didn't have a sign in my front yard. Zip. Nada. None.

Sorry bout the school board. They missed out on a good one in you.

BTW, I have a storage shed full of McInsaneinthemembrane/Palin signs! I must have at least 100. I'm burning em this week along with a couple tons of leaves.

YES WE CAN!!!

Enjoy. Dream about her, naked, while the bonfire burns.

Carbon Credits...don't forget your carbon credits before you have a bonfire...

D1B wrote: The media treated your message of hate responsibly and fairly.

oddly enough so far ABCNews, Dan Rather and now the Washington Post disagree with you. I'm certain there will be more revelations to come.

Hate is the operative verb at your homepage democraticunderground.com

BigApp wrote:

D1B wrote:

Hate is the operative verb at your homepage democraticunderground.com

DU is so much fun. I get into more arguments over there than anywhere else

Isn't WaPo ownwed by Rev. Moon?

houndawg wrote:Isn't WaPo ownwed by Rev. Moon?

That's the Washington Times - actually not a bad paper (once you get past the right-wing slant), though not nearly as good as the Post...

So I wonder if the Washington Post will ask the "hard" questions now about Obama's alleged affair...

Holy Christ this thread is a blast from the past.

dbackjon wrote:What, independent studies by Fox?

Anyone that believes that Fox does not have an agenda themselves is a fool.

I am betting their agenda is to make money!

Don't be cranky just because the Conservatives bring a product to the cable networks that kicks the Donks asses.

Ever seen the ratings of Fox vs CNN or MSNBC. Dreadful for Donks.

SeattleGriz wrote:
Don't be cranky just because the Conservatives bring a product to the cable networks that kicks the Donks asses.

Ever seen the ratings of Fox vs CNN or MSNBC. Dreadful for Donks.

Ratings aren't demonstrative of quality journalism. They're demonstrative of quality entertainment.

SeattleGriz wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What, independent studies by Fox?

Anyone that believes that Fox does not have an agenda themselves is a fool.

I am betting their agenda is to make money!

Don't be cranky just because the Conservatives bring a product to the cable networks that kicks the Donks asses.

Ever seen the ratings of Fox vs CNN or MSNBC. Dreadful for Donks.

All of those networks are terrible. The fact that Fox has more marginally attractive blondes doesn't make them a good news source.