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It will probably come down to Pawlenty, Daniels, and Romney. Sorry tea baggers the establishment will win again.

So who ya got?

While no one has declared their presidential campaign yet, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney emerged as the winner Saturday of a New Hampshire Republican straw poll that aimed to gauge what kind of support early contenders have among the party faithful.

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kalm wrote:It will probably come down to Pawlenty, Daniels, and Romney. Sorry tea baggers the establishment will win again.

So who ya got?

While no one has declared their presidential campaign yet, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney emerged as the winner Saturday of a New Hampshire Republican straw poll that aimed to gauge what kind of support early contenders have among the party faithful.

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Romney is in line to be a God of his own planet and population out in the galaxy somewhere, someday. Seem's like a short gig as POTUS should be a no brainer for a saint like him.

Wedgebuster wrote:

kalm wrote:It will probably come down to Pawlenty, Daniels, and Romney. Sorry tea baggers the establishment will win again.

So who ya got?



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Romney is in line to be a God of his own planet and population out in the galaxy somewhere, someday. Seem's like a short gig as POTUS should be a no brainer for a saint like him.

In a nutshell why Romney won't ever be President, or even seriously evaluated to be one - pure and simple bigotry of Mormons. He may not be the right man for the job, but most will never get past bigoted ideas like the above to even consider him on his merits, or lack thereof.

GannonFan wrote:

Wedgebuster wrote:
Romney is in line to be a God of his own planet and population out in the galaxy somewhere, someday. Seem's like a short gig as POTUS should be a no brainer for a saint like him.

In a nutshell why Romney won't ever be President, or even seriously evaluated to be one - pure and simple bigotry of Mormons. He may not be the right man for the job, but most will never get past bigoted ideas like the above to even consider him on his merits, or lack thereof.

Twas my point exactly, how is a guy who tithes millions of dollars a year to the LDS church, going to ever be taken seriously in a Presidential race?



Oh, I almost forgot, this here cult stuff is probably small potatoes to the fact that Romney is a big a phony as say.. John Edwards. Check out his past statements about abortion (remembering he is a Mormon) and hunting/gun rights.

How much does geography skew this poll? MA is right next to NH... and if Daniels is truly a contender, he did pretty poorly in this poll, as well as other potential top candidates, getting beat out by Palin.

GannonFan wrote:

Wedgebuster wrote:
Romney is in line to be a God of his own planet and population out in the galaxy somewhere, someday. Seem's like a short gig as POTUS should be a no brainer for a saint like him.

In a nutshell why Romney won't ever be President, or even seriously evaluated to be one - pure and simple bigotry of Mormons. He may not be the right man for the job, but most will never get past bigoted ideas like the above to even consider him on his merits, or lack thereof.

Mormon's don't really have that belief?

kalm wrote:It will probably come down to Pawlenty, Daniels, and Romney. Sorry tea baggers the establishment will win again.

So who ya got?

While no one has declared their presidential campaign yet, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney emerged as the winner Saturday of a New Hampshire Republican straw poll that aimed to gauge what kind of support early contenders have among the party faithful.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2012-presiden ... straw-poll" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wouldn't mind seeing any of those three get the nod, but Romney is vulnerable because of "Romneycare" as well as his religion. The poll understates Huckabee's underlying strength nationally, which isn't surprising in his weakest region. Palin will implode for various reasons over the next 6 to 12 months. Gingrich is old hat and too much baggage. Speaking of old hat, Giuliani's considering another run!

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:It will probably come down to Pawlenty, Daniels, and Romney. Sorry tea baggers the establishment will win again.

So who ya got?



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I wouldn't mind seeing any of those three get the nod, but Romney is vulnerable because of "Romneycare" as well as his religion. The poll understates Huckabee's underlying strength nationally, which isn't surprising in his weakest region. Palin will implode for various reasons over the next 6 to 12 months. Gingrich is old hat and too much baggage. Speaking of old hat, Giuliani's considering another run!

Damn, so much talent, so little time!

Wedgebuster wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing any of those three get the nod, but Romney is vulnerable because of "Romneycare" as well as his religion. The poll understates Huckabee's underlying strength nationally, which isn't surprising in his weakest region. Palin will implode for various reasons over the next 6 to 12 months. Gingrich is old hat and too much baggage. Speaking of old hat, Giuliani's considering another run!

Damn, so much talent, so little time!

Wedgie, your posts on this thread qualify you for the 2011 Specter-Gergen Former Republican Internet Trolling Award!

Ivytalk wrote:

Wedgebuster wrote:
Damn, so much talent, so little time!

Wedgie, your posts on this thread qualify you for the 2011 Specter-Gergen Former Republican Internet Trolling Award!

Naaaaaw... Specter and Gergen occasionally make a valid point or two.

native wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:
Wedgie, your posts on this thread qualify you for the 2011 Specter-Gergen Former Republican Internet Trolling Award!

Naaaaaw... Specter and Gergen occasionally make a valid point or two.

Naive, your shit is bland, predictable, and worst of all, boring.

Now, aren't we about due for another lame joke thread post in the locker room?----------------------------------------->

Having had T Paw for Governor in Minnesota, he isn't too bad, but I just don't see him as presidential matierial, maybe his role would be as a VP. TT and the local Donks called him an obstructionist to the Donk legislature, just as the local Conks will be Saying the same about Dayton and the Conk legislature. I haven't seen anyone on either side that I would vote for at this point.

GannonFan wrote:

Wedgebuster wrote:
Romney is in line to be a God of his own planet and population out in the galaxy somewhere, someday. Seem's like a short gig as POTUS should be a no brainer for a saint like him.

In a nutshell why Romney won't ever be President, or even seriously evaluated to be one - pure and simple bigotry of Mormons. He may not be the right man for the job, but most will never get past bigoted ideas like the above to even consider him on his merits, or lack thereof.

I think it's the magic underwear.

Vidav wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
In a nutshell why Romney won't ever be President, or even seriously evaluated to be one - pure and simple bigotry of Mormons. He may not be the right man for the job, but most will never get past bigoted ideas like the above to even consider him on his merits, or lack thereof.

I think it's the magic underwear.

Bigot!

kalm wrote:

Vidav wrote:
I think it's the magic underwear.

Bigot!

I do what I can. I don't think religion is something that deserves special exemption from criticism. I look at the choices someone makes, like that if they don't wear their magical underwear they will be unprotected from temptation and evil. Then I think, would I want someone crazy enough to buy into this shit making important policy decisions that could affect my life?

You can be a religious person that buys into whatever nonsense you want, but that doesn't mean I can't hold it against you when it comes time for me to vote.

Just the same as most American's would probably not vote for an atheist running for president. Bigots.

Vidav wrote: Just the same as most American's would probably not vote for an atheist running for president. Bigots.

Too bad the religious views of politicians can become more newsworthy than their views on government.

Gil Dobie wrote:

Vidav wrote: Just the same as most American's would probably not vote for an atheist running for president. Bigots.

Too bad the religious views of politicians can become more newsworthy than their views on government.

Would you have the same view if a member of the Westboro Baptist Church or the Aryan Nations Church ran for office?
I'll disagree with Chizzang in that politics and religion are almost inseperable. They are both manifestations of one's world view and shape a person's decision making.

Read Vidav's post above.

kalm wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Too bad the religious views of politicians can become more newsworthy than their views on government.

Would you have the same view if a member of the Westboro Baptist Church or the Aryan Nations Church ran for office?
I'll disagree with Chizzang in that politics and religion are almost inseperable. They are both manifestations of one's world view and shape a person's decision making.

Read Vidav's post above.

The Westboro Baptist Church and Aryan Nations Church don't have a view of government that I agree with. But they have every right to send a candidate to the populace for a vote.

Gil Dobie wrote:

kalm wrote:
Would you have the same view if a member of the Westboro Baptist Church or the Aryan Nations Church ran for office?
I'll disagree with Chizzang in that politics and religion are almost inseperable. They are both manifestations of one's world view and shape a person's decision making.

Read Vidav's post above.

The Westboro Baptist Church and Aryan Nations Church don't have a view of government that I agree with. But they have every right to send a candidate to the populace for a vote.

Is somebody arguing whether Mormons should have that right?

kalm wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
The Westboro Baptist Church and Aryan Nations Church don't have a view of government that I agree with. But they have every right to send a candidate to the populace for a vote.

Is somebody arguing whether Mormons should have that right?

Living in Minnesota, I was thinking more of Keith Ellison.

Gil Dobie wrote:

kalm wrote:
Is somebody arguing whether Mormons should have that right?

Living in Minnesota, I was thinking more of Keith Ellison.

Wait a second. That's a totally different scenario. If we make fun of his religion they're likely to bomb us or slit our throats!

Why won't people give Ron Paul a chance? Seriously?

Ibanez wrote:Why won't people give Ron Paul a chance? Seriously?

I like Ron Paul quite a bit and would probably vote for him over someone from either party. But he won't be given a chance because of corporate governmental capture. Too many large and powerful companies would suffer at the hands of transparency and the the free market.

kalm wrote:he won't be given a chance because of corporate governmental capture. Too many large and powerful companies would suffer at the hands of transparency and the the free market.

Do you seriously think that's the reason?

89Hen wrote:

kalm wrote:he won't be given a chance because of corporate governmental capture. Too many large and powerful companies would suffer at the hands of transparency and the the free market.

Do you seriously think that's the reason?

Absolutely. He's by far the most conservative candidate out there. He should win the nomination hands down. He's received enough attention to be on the voter's radar. Why do you think he won't?