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CID1990 wrote:So you were watching a show by a lefty entertainer talking about a righty entertainer talking about lefties?

JohnStOnge wrote:Glenn Beck is not my cup of tea but I think that article creates a totally false impression of what he is about. In particular, if you watch him at all you know that he is absolutely anti violence. In fact I have found myself disagreeing with him in that regard because he reveres the "founders" who established this country through a very violent revolution yet espouses the idea that violence is never the answer.

And he is not in it just to be an entertainer, either. Regardless of what you think of what he says, he's serious. He's not doing what he's doing for the purpose of entertaining.

How could anybody possibly claim to know what Glenn Beck stands for...
He contradicts himself minute by minute / sentence by sentence

And:
The fact that he's not doing what he's doing for entertainment is exactly what makes his brand of loony so entertaining

JohnStOnge wrote:

How could anybody possibly claim to know what Glenn Beck stands for...
He contradicts himself minute by minute / sentence by sentence

And:
The fact that he's not doing what he's doing for entertainment is exactly what makes his brand of loony so entertaining

I don't watch him that much but I don't think it's difficult to see what he stands for. He's for sticking to the original principles of the Constitution and against the "Progressive" movement.

And can you reference something he's said either about original Constitutional principles or the "Progressive" movement that you can document as being false? I'm not saying you can't because I don't know. I haven't bothered myself with trying to objectively determine whether what he says is false or not point by point. I already know the "Progressive" movement does not believe in sticking to original Constitutional principles and does believe in managing the population as though it is a herd of cattle through dominant and pro-active central government.

Anyway, one is not justified in saying someone is "loony" for saying the things that someone says just because what they say consists of things one is unaccoustomed to hearing.

JohnStOnge wrote:

How could anybody possibly claim to know what Glenn Beck stands for...
He contradicts himself minute by minute / sentence by sentence

And:
The fact that he's not doing what he's doing for entertainment is exactly what makes his brand of loony so entertaining

I don't watch him that much but I don't think it's difficult to see what he stands for. He's for sticking to the original principles of the Constitution and against the "Progressive" movement.

And can you reference something he's said either about original Constitutional principles or the "Progressive" movement that you can document as being false? I'm not saying you can't because I don't know. I haven't bothered myself with trying to objectively determine whether what he says is false or not point by point. I already know the "Progressive" movement does not believe in sticking to original Constitutional principles and does believe in managing the population as though it is a herd of cattle through dominant and pro-active central government.

Anyway, one is not justified in saying someone is "loony" for saying the things that someone says just because what they say consists of things one is unaccoustomed to hearing.

kalm wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
I don't watch him that much but I don't think it's difficult to see what he stands for. He's for sticking to the original principles of the Constitution and against the "Progressive" movement.

And can you reference something he's said either about original Constitutional principles or the "Progressive" movement that you can document as being false? I'm not saying you can't because I don't know. I haven't bothered myself with trying to objectively determine whether what he says is false or not point by point. I already know the "Progressive" movement does not believe in sticking to original Constitutional principles and does believe in managing the population as though it is a herd of cattle through dominant and pro-active central government.

Anyway, one is not justified in saying someone is "loony" for saying the things that someone says just because what they say consists of things one is unaccoustomed to hearing.

The constitution was a progressive document.

Chizzang wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
I don't watch him that much but I don't think it's difficult to see what he stands for. He's for sticking to the original principles of the Constitution and against the "Progressive" movement.

And can you reference something he's said either about original Constitutional principles or the "Progressive" movement that you can document as being false? I'm not saying you can't because I don't know. I haven't bothered myself with trying to objectively determine whether what he says is false or not point by point. I already know the "Progressive" movement does not believe in sticking to original Constitutional principles and does believe in managing the population as though it is a herd of cattle through dominant and pro-active central government.

Anyway, one is not justified in saying someone is "loony" for saying the things that someone says just because what they say consists of things one is unaccoustomed to hearing.

Seriously...
I've seen enough youtube clips of him to use the word LOONY...
One thing you got to give him credit for - he knows his loyal viewers are idiots - and plays that fiddle like a Mozart concerto

(and IDIOT is exactly the word I was looking for) thank you
And I'm not completely convinced that Olberman and Beck aren't actually the same person...

BDKJMU wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

Seriously...
I've seen enough youtube clips of him to use the word LOONY...
One thing you got to give him credit for - he knows his loyal viewers are idiots - and plays that fiddle like a Mozart concerto

(and IDIOT is exactly the word I was looking for) thank you
And I'm not completely convinced that Olberman and Beck aren't actually the same person...

Using that logic you could say that Olbermann's viewers are idiots, and Maher's, and Maddow's, and Stewarts, and Colberts, etc, etc.

kalm wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
I don't watch him that much but I don't think it's difficult to see what he stands for. He's for sticking to the original principles of the Constitution and against the "Progressive" movement.

And can you reference something he's said either about original Constitutional principles or the "Progressive" movement that you can document as being false? I'm not saying you can't because I don't know. I haven't bothered myself with trying to objectively determine whether what he says is false or not point by point. I already know the "Progressive" movement does not believe in sticking to original Constitutional principles and does believe in managing the population as though it is a herd of cattle through dominant and pro-active central government.

Anyway, one is not justified in saying someone is "loony" for saying the things that someone says just because what they say consists of things one is unaccoustomed to hearing.

The constitution was a progressive document.

BDKJMU wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

Seriously...
I've seen enough youtube clips of him to use the word LOONY...
One thing you got to give him credit for - he knows his loyal viewers are idiots - and plays that fiddle like a Mozart concerto

(and IDIOT is exactly the word I was looking for) thank you
And I'm not completely convinced that Olberman and Beck aren't actually the same person...

Using that logic you could say that viewers are idiots, and Maher's, and Maddow's, and Stewarts, and Colberts, etc, etc.

ASUSandman wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Using that logic you could say that viewers are idiots, and Maher's, and Maddow's, and Stewarts, and Colberts, etc, etc.

Somehow I've never been able to associate the words idiot and millionaire with one another. Each one of those TV personalities espouses a position and people who share that opinion, or dislike as the case may be, tune in. The left just has a hard time understanding how people can pay attention to the nut jobs on the right, yet are astounded people do not see the great minds of those on the left. Take the spin the left put on Olbermann's canning. They droned on and on about what a travesty of justice it was and referenced his “great” ratings as evidence. What they fail to mention is MSNBC is the 26th ranked cable network, just a tick ahead of BET and trailing TVLand. The other non biased news networks CNN came in at #32 CNN, while HLNews rolled in at #37. While the racist, bigoted, homophobic, idiotic FOX network comes home at a solid #2. In reality, Keith was nothing more than the tallest midget in the room. Even Fox’s morning shows had better ratings than his prime time slot. What liberals have such a hard time coming to grips with is this country has always been center right and the only way a liberal press can win is with a stacked deck. When they go head to head on a level playing field they get creamed. Enter the Fairness Doctrine. Walter Cronkite was one of the most biased news people of all time, yet he had command of the airwaves during a time when there was no outlet for dissenting opinion. The liberal press cannot deal with the fact people are fleeing from the old ways of getting their news. Newspapers are going out of business and the left leaning network news shows are in a ratings free fall. Before you start to tell me I’m a moron and don’t know what I’m talking about take into consideration I was a Communications Major in Radio and TV with a minor in Political Science. I saw all the bias and collusion from professors and students first hand. Yea, they hated my guts!

ASUSandman wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Using that logic you could say that viewers are idiots, and Maher's, and Maddow's, and Stewarts, and Colberts, etc, etc.

Somehow I've never been able to associate the words idiot and millionaire with one another. Each one of those TV personalities espouses a position and people who share that opinion, or dislike as the case may be, tune in. The left just has a hard time understanding how people can pay attention to the nut jobs on the right, yet are astounded people do not see the great minds of those on the left. Take the spin the left put on Olbermann's canning. They droned on and on about what a travesty of justice it was and referenced his “great” ratings as evidence. What they fail to mention is MSNBC is the 26th ranked cable network, just a tick ahead of BET and trailing TVLand. The other non biased news networks CNN came in at #32 CNN, while HLNews rolled in at #37. While the racist, bigoted, homophobic, idiotic FOX network comes home at a solid #2. In reality, Keith was nothing more than the tallest midget in the room. Even Fox’s morning shows had better ratings than his prime time slot. What liberals have such a hard time coming to grips with is this country has always been center right and the only way a liberal press can win is with a stacked deck. When they go head to head on a level playing field they get creamed. Enter the Fairness Doctrine. Walter Cronkite was one of the most biased news people of all time, yet he had command of the airwaves during a time when there was no outlet for dissenting opinion. The liberal press cannot deal with the fact people are fleeing from the old ways of getting their news. Newspapers are going out of business and the left leaning network news shows are in a ratings free fall. Before you start to tell me I’m a moron and don’t know what I’m talking about take into consideration I was a Communications Major in Radio and TV with a minor in Political Science. I saw all the bias and collusion from professors and students first hand. Yea, they hated my guts!

Grizalltheway wrote:

ASUSandman wrote:
Somehow I've never been able to associate the words idiot and millionaire with one another. Each one of those TV personalities espouses a position and people who share that opinion, or dislike as the case may be, tune in. The left just has a hard time understanding how people can pay attention to the nut jobs on the right, yet are astounded people do not see the great minds of those on the left. Take the spin the left put on Olbermann's canning. They droned on and on about what a travesty of justice it was and referenced his “great” ratings as evidence. What they fail to mention is MSNBC is the 26th ranked cable network, just a tick ahead of BET and trailing TVLand. The other non biased news networks CNN came in at #32 CNN, while HLNews rolled in at #37. While the racist, bigoted, homophobic, idiotic FOX network comes home at a solid #2. In reality, Keith was nothing more than the tallest midget in the room. Even Fox’s morning shows had better ratings than his prime time slot. What liberals have such a hard time coming to grips with is this country has always been center right and the only way a liberal press can win is with a stacked deck. When they go head to head on a level playing field they get creamed. Enter the Fairness Doctrine. Walter Cronkite was one of the most biased news people of all time, yet he had command of the airwaves during a time when there was no outlet for dissenting opinion. The liberal press cannot deal with the fact people are fleeing from the old ways of getting their news. Newspapers are going out of business and the left leaning network news shows are in a ratings free fall. Before you start to tell me I’m a moron and don’t know what I’m talking about take into consideration I was a Communications Major in Radio and TV with a minor in Political Science. I saw all the bias and collusion from professors and students first hand. Yea, they hated my guts!

6 years of college, and you never figured out how to use paragraph breaks.

blueballs wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
6 years of college, and you never figured out how to use paragraph breaks.

If he was talking it would have all been with one breath... but he is dead on in his analysis.

Grizalltheway wrote:

blueballs wrote:
If he was talking it would have all been with one breath... but he is dead on in his analysis.

The thing is, he really isn't. As Wedgie mentioned popularity =/= quality. Would you say bud light is the best beer out there because it's the most popular? Does McDonald's have the best food?

Grizalltheway wrote:

blueballs wrote:
If he was talking it would have all been with one breath... but he is dead on in his analysis.

The thing is, he really isn't. As Wedgie mentioned popularity =/= quality. Would you say bud light is the best beer out there because it's the most popular? Does McDonald's have the best food?

Chizzang wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
The thing is, he really isn't. As Wedgie mentioned popularity =/= quality. Would you say bud light is the best beer out there because it's the most popular? Does McDonald's have the best food?

As with most conservative minds: More must mean better

Chizzang wrote:

ASUSandman wrote:
Somehow I've never been able to associate the words idiot and millionaire with one another. Each one of those TV personalities espouses a position and people who share that opinion, or dislike as the case may be, tune in. The left just has a hard time understanding how people can pay attention to the nut jobs on the right, yet are astounded people do not see the great minds of those on the left. Take the spin the left put on Olbermann's canning. They droned on and on about what a travesty of justice it was and referenced his “great” ratings as evidence. What they fail to mention is MSNBC is the 26th ranked cable network, just a tick ahead of BET and trailing TVLand. The other non biased news networks CNN came in at #32 CNN, while HLNews rolled in at #37. While the racist, bigoted, homophobic, idiotic FOX network comes home at a solid #2. In reality, Keith was nothing more than the tallest midget in the room. Even Fox’s morning shows had better ratings than his prime time slot. What liberals have such a hard time coming to grips with is this country has always been center right and the only way a liberal press can win is with a stacked deck. When they go head to head on a level playing field they get creamed. Enter the Fairness Doctrine. Walter Cronkite was one of the most biased news people of all time, yet he had command of the airwaves during a time when there was no outlet for dissenting opinion. The liberal press cannot deal with the fact people are fleeing from the old ways of getting their news. Newspapers are going out of business and the left leaning network news shows are in a ratings free fall. Before you start to tell me I’m a moron and don’t know what I’m talking about take into consideration I was a Communications Major in Radio and TV with a minor in Political Science. I saw all the bias and collusion from professors and students first hand. Yea, they hated my guts!

Well I guess that makes you a genius then
I was not in any way associating the Millionaire Beck with being an idiot - he's a showman
His fan base are idiots - and he plays them like a fiddle - and as I mentioned previously, I'm not sure he and Olberman aren't actually the same person...

I see you have your finger on the pulse of America...
You'll want to report all your brilliant data to MSNBC and CNN - It must be terribly difficult being such a misunderstood genius...

Nice, condescending reply. You pseudo intellectuals amuse me with your holier than thou attitudes. How dare a peasant like me dispute the authority of the self appointed social and political experts. I'm not misunderstood and I'm far from a genius, but next to some liberals I know I’m darn near Mensa material. No need for me to report any data to MSNBC and CNN, it's all there on mediabistro.com for all to see. BTW, news people aren’t writing novels so they don’t typically use paragraph breaks in news stories. Anyway, didn’t realize I was part of an essay contest where my sentence structure was going to be critiqued. Geez, some of you guys are a piece of work.

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Chizzang wrote:... Well I guess that makes you a genius then ... I was not in any way associating the Millionaire Beck with being an idiot - he's a showman ... His fan base are idiots ...

Chizzang wrote: ... Any attentive high school student knows most of the Founders were Deists and Unitarians ...

ASUSandman wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

Well I guess that makes you a genius then
I was not in any way associating the Millionaire Beck with being an idiot - he's a showman
His fan base are idiots - and he plays them like a fiddle - and as I mentioned previously, I'm not sure he and Olberman aren't actually the same person...

I see you have your finger on the pulse of America...
You'll want to report all your brilliant data to MSNBC and CNN - It must be terribly difficult being such a misunderstood genius...

Nice, condescending reply. You pseudo intellectuals amuse me with your holier than thou attitudes. How dare a peasant like me dispute the authority of the self appointed social and political experts. I'm not misunderstood and I'm far from a genius, but next to some liberals I know I’m darn near Mensa material. No need for me to report any data to MSNBC and CNN, it's all there on mediabistro.com for all to see. BTW, news people aren’t writing novels so they don’t typically use paragraph breaks in news stories. Anyway, didn’t realize I was part of an essay contest where my sentence structure was going to be critiqued. Geez, some of you guys are a piece of work.

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