Jesse Ventura sues TSA, says body scans and pat-down searches violate rights
pioneer press ^ | 1-24-11 | Amy Forliti
Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura sued the Department of Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Administration on Monday, alleging full-body scans and pat-downs at airport checkpoints violate his right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.
Ventura is asking a federal judge in Minnesota to issue an injunction ordering officials to stop subjecting him to "warrantless and suspicionless" scans and body searches.
The lawsuit, which also names Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and TSA Administrator John Pistole as defendants, argues the searches are "unwarranted and unreasonable intrusions on Governor Ventura's personal privacy and dignity and are a justifiable cause for him to be concerned for his personal health and well-being."
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Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:50 pm
by SuperHornet
Finally SOMEBODY has the nads to challenge Napolitano's Gestapo.
How about we do with that what Brown's doing with the Secretary of Education and the Inspector General? As in dump them as redundant positions? Send the Coasties, ICE, and Border Patrol to Defense, dump the useless cavity violators at TSA, send FEMA, the Secret Service, and Immigration to State, and redistribute or dump the rest as necessary.
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:57 pm
by dbackjon
Flew to Vegas over MLK weekend. Didn't notice any change. Much ado about nothing.
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:29 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
You might consider it much ado about nothing, I disagree.
As completely fu8ked up as this is gonna sound..........I agree with Jesse and Super Hornet.........
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:43 pm
by CID1990
I really don't know if ol Jesse has much standing here.
As much as I dislike the window dressing security measures (that have arguable merit or effectiveness), flying is not a right. You do not have an inherent right to hop on an airplane and fly to NYC from LA, particularly when more personal modes of transportation are available.
Airlines and the government do have standing to deny service to passengers who may pose a public safety risk, and in order to overcome the assumption, one can be reasonably expected to submit to searches in return for the privilege of hopping on a commercial aircraft. States deny people their driver's licenses all the time, and they also require what is known as "implied consent" to searches as a condition of having a driver's license.
Agree with it or not, fine. Right now the law is on the government's side and not Jesse's.
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:47 pm
by Chizzang
CID1990 wrote:I really don't know if ol Jesse has much standing here.
As much as I dislike the window dressing security measures (that have arguable merit or effectiveness), flying is not a right. You do not have an inherent right to hop on an airplane and fly to NYC from LA, particularly when more personal modes of transportation are available.
Airlines and the government do have standing to deny service to passengers who may pose a public safety risk, and in order to overcome the assumption, one can be reasonably expected to submit to searches in return for the privilege of hopping on a commercial aircraft. States deny people their driver's licenses all the time, and they also require what is known as "implied consent" to searches as a condition of having a driver's license.
Agree with it or not, fine. Right now the law is on the government's side and not Jesse's.
Agreed,
Don't like it - then - Don't fly
If ever there was a tempest in a tea pot...
That said however I do believe the TSA should be a private organization with Federal oversight
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:18 am
by Gil Dobie
dbackjon wrote:Flew to Vegas over MLK weekend. Didn't notice any change. Much ado about nothing.
Probably because you respected the people doing their jobs at the airport. Same thing at Canadian border crossings, most people that respect the border agents have no problem. The ones that get smart and disrespect the agents, can get the strip search and their car torn apart.
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:25 am
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:Flew to Vegas over MLK weekend. Didn't notice any change. Much ado about nothing.
You insisted on being patted down before all this, so maybe for you there's no big change.
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:31 am
by dbackjon
89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Flew to Vegas over MLK weekend. Didn't notice any change. Much ado about nothing.
You insisted on being patted down before all this, so maybe for you there's no big change.
Only if it is a hottie doing the pat downs...
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:10 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
I've met this guy on several occasions... he is certifiably insane. Completely nuts. Thank God he had a team of excellent advisers around him when he was Governor...
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:53 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
The guy in the picture above thats in that other dudes man-gina?
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:27 pm
by BDKJMU
dbackjon wrote:Flew to Vegas over MLK weekend. Didn't notice any change. Much ado about nothing.
TSA has just implemented new procedures: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Jesse Ventura sues TSA
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:34 pm
by D1B
CID1990 wrote:I really don't know if ol Jesse has much standing here.
As much as I dislike the window dressing security measures (that have arguable merit or effectiveness), flying is not a right. You do not have an inherent right to hop on an airplane and fly to NYC from LA, particularly when more personal modes of transportation are available.
Airlines and the government do have standing to deny service to passengers who may pose a public safety risk, and in order to overcome the assumption, one can be reasonably expected to submit to searches in return for the privilege of hopping on a commercial aircraft. States deny people their driver's licenses all the time, and they also require what is known as "implied consent" to searches as a condition of having a driver's license.
Agree with it or not, fine. Right now the law is on the government's side and not Jesse's.