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AWESOME! You guys see Obama walk down, campaigning his way to the podium. Shameless. He's making a mockery of this.....A MOCKERY. And by an illegal, undocumented President no less. It's a shame...

Boehner has a pink tie

youngterrier wrote:Boehner has a pink tie

looks more purple to me.


Oh man...did he mention Facebook? Did someone clap at facebook? Awesome! Totally!!!!

Are you drunk Markus or just bitter about your the 'zero interest' loan you just gave?

I was watching Rush on the golf channel

What did I miss?

I see Obama is sporting the Grey hair tonight

Bronco wrote:I was watching Rush on the golf channel

What did I miss?

I see Obama is sporting the Grey hair tonight

True, though I think it is the "touch of grey" look. You know, looks like he's got the experience, but still has the energy to get er done.

Ibanez wrote:

youngterrier wrote:Boehner has a pink tie

looks more purple to me.


Oh man...did he mention Facebook? Did someone clap at facebook? Awesome! Totally!!!!

Good man, purge all that racism. You'll be feeling better soon.

JMU DJ wrote:

Bronco wrote:I was watching Rush on the golf channel

What did I miss?

I see Obama is sporting the Grey hair tonight

True, though I think it is the "touch of grey" look. You know, looks like he's got the experience, but still has the energy to get er done.

Nyah nyah, Boehner can't accessorize and his make up looks like an undertaker applied it.

houndawg wrote:Nyah nyah, Boehner can't accessorize and his make up looks like an undertaker applied it.

You lie!

Oh no, he stuck up for gays, even called them "Americans", the people who weren't puking were standing and applauding.

Oh, the humanity!!

Solid speech. Now let's see if anything gets done...

AP says the SOTU just doesn't line up with the facts....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110126/ap_ ... fact_check

In other words, more lies....

Get rid of energy subsidies that work and give them to green energy that doesn't work.

Dems were truthful when they said they wanted much higher gas and energy bills

Bronco wrote:Get rid of energy subsidies that work and give them to green energy that doesn't work.

Dems were truthful when they said they wanted much higher gas and energy bills

The oil industry is the most profitable in the history of mankind. They hardly need subsidies to survive.

Grizalltheway wrote:

Bronco wrote:Get rid of energy subsidies that work and give them to green energy that doesn't work.

Dems were truthful when they said they wanted much higher gas and energy bills

The oil industry is the most profitable in the history of mankind. They hardly need subsidies to survive.

This. While they are at it, cut farming subsidies too. Hell cut all the subsidies to anyone.

I missed it? Were there any fireworks this year? Did that constitution hating, hack, sell out Alito show his hide?

You guys missed a hell of a Georgia-Florida hoops game if you watched the SOTU.

kalm wrote:I missed it? Were there any fireworks this year? Did that constitution hating, hack, sell out Alito show his hide?

No, but that constitution hating, hack, sell out of a president gave a speech....I think.

kalm wrote:I missed it? Were there any fireworks this year? Did that constitution hating, hack, sell out Alito show his hide?

No, this year Obama decided to put a hold on the classless jabs during what should be a unifying speech.

SOTU factcheck from the AP:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110126/ap_ ... ct_check_5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Grizalltheway wrote:

Bronco wrote:Get rid of energy subsidies that work and give them to green energy that doesn't work.

Dems were truthful when they said they wanted much higher gas and energy bills

The oil industry is the most profitable in the history of mankind. They hardly need subsidies to survive.

Oil industry doesn't need subsidies to survive, but the less fortunate people don't need the oil industry raising prices for gas to get to work and heating their homes while green energy is being developed. The poor won't be paying taxes for oil subsidies, they will be paying them directly. Needs to be a transition period to keep prices in check.

Gil Dobie wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
The oil industry is the most profitable in the history of mankind. They hardly need subsidies to survive.

Oil industry doesn't need subsidies to survive, but the less fortunate people don't need the oil industry raising prices for gas to get to work and heating their homes while green energy is being developed. The poor won't be paying taxes for oil subsidies, they will be paying them directly. Needs to be a transition period to keep prices in check.

That's a really good point. But you could also ask whether the working poor are really able to own a car and afford single driver commuting expenses versus mass transit. Subsidies enable bad behavior and slow the demand for clean energy.

kalm wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Oil industry doesn't need subsidies to survive, but the less fortunate people don't need the oil industry raising prices for gas to get to work and heating their homes while green energy is being developed. The poor won't be paying taxes for oil subsidies, they will be paying them directly. Needs to be a transition period to keep prices in check.

That's a really good point. But you could also ask whether the working poor are really able to own a car and afford single driver commuting expenses versus mass transit. Subsidies enable bad behavior and slow the demand for clean energy.

If gas prices go up, so do the mass transit prices that use gas, same with car pooling, larger vehicles use more fuel and the cost would increase. Many of the cars that the poor have are gas guzzlers, because that's what they can afford. Many cities have limited trains and rely on a bus system. The bus system in the Twin Cities use subsidies, and the buses are looking rather full right now. I'm looking forward to living in the bay area and using mass transit to get almost anywhere.