Included are:
Allied Building Inspectors IUOE Local 211 Welfare Fund
Bricklayers Insurance & Welfare Fund
Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Albany*
Cement Masons' Local No. 502 Welfare Fund
Standard Security Life Ins. Co. of NY
United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:50 am
by native
The report was late, of course. A "Hotair" blogger makes the convincing case that the information release was delayed until after the President's State of the Union speech, and concludes that...
"This ever-expanding list of waivers is the direct result of ObamaCare raising the annual benefit caps on certain health plans. Obviously, a plan with higher annual limits is potentially more costly than one without them. The money to cover the difference in premiums has to come from somewhere. Without the waivers, it will come from the employer who are forced by law to upgrade to the more expensive plan.
Waivers for Favors: Big Labor's Obamacare Escape Hatch
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:54 am
by native
The same leftist organizations and unions that contributed to Obama's campaign fund and celebrated Obamacare's success sought immediate waivers.
"...At least one eyebrow-raising waiver recipient—the left-leaning, nationalized health care-promoting Robert Wood Johnson Foundation—has direct ties to the White House. Obama health care czar Nancy-Ann DeParle sits on the foundation's board of trustees.
Most noteworthy: One-fourth of all the waivers (182) so far have gone to Big Labor groups across the country."
The Affordable Health Care Act is doomed... all it served to do is get the spotlight on US Health care issues
But a plan such as this - written by Insurance Companies obviously isn't a solution (at all)
and native
I've noticed that you don't hold yourself to the same standard that you hold others to...
It's not ObamaCare it's the Health Care Act
Just as you ask those to refer to The Tea Party as such and not Tea Baggers
(Just another telling observation)
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:41 pm
by CitadelGrad
Chizzang wrote:The Affordable Health Care Act is doomed... all it served to do is get the spotlight on US Health care issues
But a plan such as this - written by Insurance Companies obviously isn't a solution (at all)
and native
I've noticed that you don't hold yourself to the same standard that you hold others to...
It's not ObamaCare it's the Health Care Act
Just as you ask those to refer to The Tea Party as such and not Tea Baggers
(Just another telling observation)
Gosh Chizz, are you saying he's a conservative and is critical of Obama? I had no idea. That's some mighty fine detective work, Lou.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:13 pm
by Chizzang
CitadelGrad wrote:
Chizzang wrote:The Affordable Health Care Act is doomed... all it served to do is get the spotlight on US Health care issues
But a plan such as this - written by Insurance Companies obviously isn't a solution (at all)
and native
I've noticed that you don't hold yourself to the same standard that you hold others to...
It's not ObamaCare it's the Health Care Act
Just as you ask those to refer to The Tea Party as such and not Tea Baggers
(Just another telling observation)
Gosh Chizz, are you saying he's a conservative and is critical of Obama? I had no idea. That's some mighty fine detective work, Lou.
Not quite...
It's called hypocrisy and I know you're not really familiar with what that is...
I'm saying he uses slang terminology whenever it suits his disposition - yet - he is critical of others who use political slang and calls them disrespectful... stating that "mutual respect" is the basis for all debate
that's all I'm saying...
I've heard it described as "myopic hypocrisy"
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:01 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Gosh Chizz, are you saying he's a conservative and is critical of Obama? I had no idea. That's some mighty fine detective work, Lou.
Not quite...
It's called hypocrisy and I know you're not really familiar with what that is...
I'm saying he uses slang terminology whenever it suits his disposition - yet - he is critical of others who use political slang and calls them disrespectful... stating that "mutual respect" is the basis for all debate
that's all I'm saying...
I've heard it described as "myopic hypocrisy"
You should hear what I've heard YOU described as...
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:58 am
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Not quite...
It's called hypocrisy and I know you're not really familiar with what that is...
I'm saying he uses slang terminology whenever it suits his disposition - yet - he is critical of others who use political slang and calls them disrespectful... stating that "mutual respect" is the basis for all debate
that's all I'm saying...
I've heard it described as "myopic hypocrisy"
You should hear what I've heard YOU described as...
I'm away for over a month - I come back - and you're nowhere around AZ...
I get lonely without you, there's almost nobody to play with (as sarcastic as you) except maybe Ursus and he's mean to me for no reason
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:31 am
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Gosh Chizz, are you saying he's a conservative and is critical of Obama? I had no idea. That's some mighty fine detective work, Lou.
Not quite...
It's called hypocrisy and I know you're not really familiar with what that is...
I'm saying he uses slang terminology whenever it suits his disposition - yet - he is critical of others who use political slang and calls them disrespectful... stating that "mutual respect" is the basis for all debate
that's all I'm saying...
I've heard it described as "myopic hypocrisy"
One simply names a government program after the President who mandated it. It was Bush's War, and it's Obamacare.
The other is a derogatory term comparing Tea Partiers to people who dip their scotums into people's mouths.
There's a difference, but if you mean that people who protest the use of the word "Teabagger" should forever be prohibited from using quips or monikers of any type lest they be called hypocrite, then I suppose you have a point.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:55 am
by native
Chizzang wrote:The Affordable Health Care Act is doomed... all it served to do is get the spotlight on US Health care issues
But a plan such as this - written by Insurance Companies obviously isn't a solution (at all)
and native
I've noticed that you don't hold yourself to the same standard that you hold others to...
It's not ObamaCare it's the Health Care Act
Just as you ask those to refer to The Tea Party as such and not Tea Baggers
(Just another telling observation)
Although all four terms could be considered propoganda, the terms "Obamacare" and "Tea Party" are far more accurately descriptive than are the terms "Tea Bagger" and "Affordable Healthcare Act."
Truth in advertising.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:06 am
by native
From Wiki: "Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie."
In the first place, except for occasional transparent attempts at humor or entertainment, I do not misrepresent my beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards. I suspect your posts meet the same standard.
In the second place, calling the Health Care Act "Obamacare" is not a lie. Calling Tea Partiers "Tea Baggers" is a lie.
Epic fail, cleets. Sure, I make errors, but your effort this time was particularly weak and off target. With your mathematical mind you could do much better than this. Are you really an engineer, or were you a sociology major??? Are you doing this on purpose to bait me?
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:07 am
by native
Cleets, THANK YOU for resurrecting my thread!
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:25 am
by native
So far, the repealers and the replacers have it by a landslide.
But what?!??? No "hate your stinking poll" responses??? I must be slipping.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:43 am
by JMU DJ
CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Not quite...
It's called hypocrisy and I know you're not really familiar with what that is...
I'm saying he uses slang terminology whenever it suits his disposition - yet - he is critical of others who use political slang and calls them disrespectful... stating that "mutual respect" is the basis for all debate
that's all I'm saying...
I've heard it described as "myopic hypocrisy"
One simply names a government program after the President who mandated it. It was Bush's War, and it's Obamacare.
The other is a derogatory term comparing Tea Partiers to people who dip their scotums into people's mouths.
There's a difference, but if you mean that people who protest the use of the word "Teabagger" should forever be prohibited from using quips or monikers of any type lest they be called hypocrite, then I suppose you have a point.
WHaaaaaaaaaaa????
This whole time I thought they were called Tea Baggers because they mailed Tea Bags to their congress representatives, threw Tea Bags on the white house lawn and got labeled as Tea Baggers by Fox News.
You conks have some sick minds.
Besides, I thought "you people" had embraced the term... at least according a Fox Nation video
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Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:55 am
by native
JMU DJ wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
One simply names a government program after the President who mandated it. It was Bush's War, and it's Obamacare.
The other is a derogatory term comparing Tea Partiers to people who dip their scotums into people's mouths.
There's a difference, but if you mean that people who protest the use of the word "Teabagger" should forever be prohibited from using quips or monikers of any type lest they be called hypocrite, then I suppose you have a point.
WHaaaaaaaaaaa????
This whole time I thought they were called Tea Baggers because they mailed Tea Bags to their congress representatives, threw Tea Bags on the white house lawn and got labeled as Tea Baggers by Fox News.
You conks have some sick minds.
Besides, I thought "you people" had embraced the term... at least according a Fox Nation video
[youtube][/youtube]
Unlike you, JD, some of us do not hang on every word uttered at Fox News.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:11 pm
by JMU DJ
native wrote:
JMU DJ wrote:
WHaaaaaaaaaaa????
This whole time I thought they were called Tea Baggers because they mailed Tea Bags to their congress representatives, threw Tea Bags on the white house lawn and got labeled as Tea Baggers by Fox News.
You conks have some sick minds.
Besides, I thought "you people" had embraced the term... at least according a Fox Nation video
[youtube][/youtube]
Unlike you, JD, some of us do not hang on every word uttered at Fox News.
It must explain why I'm so angry and filled with hate all the time.
But hey, just sayin' it was your boys who labeled you, not those dastardly libs.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:08 pm
by native
JMU DJ wrote: ... But hey, just sayin' it was your boys who labeled you, not those dastardly libs.
Pretty sure the libs got there first.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:12 pm
by kalm
Teabaggers
From Dickipedia - A Wiki of Dicks
Teabaggers born January 20, 2009, are American protesters with little to no understanding of sexual slang.
Alright, the elephant with giant balls in the room. A "teabagger" is defined as: a man who dips his testicles into the mouth of another person (as if dipping a tea bag into hot water).
Despite the fact that calling them "dicks" seems gratuitous in its reference to the male anatomy, never has their dickishness been more evident than when they came out in droves on September 12, 2009, opposing government-run health care, higher taxes, current fashion trends, bailouts, increases in the government's power, shirts with sleeves, and all logical thought. These Teabaggers have taken part in a "grassroots" campaign that has covered the nation in spontaneous protests since tax day 2009. And by "grassroots," I mean "nationally organized and supported by Fox News."
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:20 pm
by kalm
Calling Obama names
The American Teabaggers have gotten in the habit of comparing Obama to to Hitler and are often seen carrying signs depicting the President's face with a little mustache on his upper lip.
Like Hitler, Obama is an eloquent public speaker. Clearly the ability to articulate in public equates one with the murderer of 6 million Jews and the general personification of evil. You know who else was a great public speaker? Steve Allen. Or should I say "Steve Hitler." So was that guy you saw give a great toast at a wedding. I bet you didn't realize you were listening to Hitler.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:29 pm
by JMU DJ
native wrote:
JMU DJ wrote: ... But hey, just sayin' it was your boys who labeled you, not those dastardly libs.
Pretty sure the libs got there first.
Nope, pretty sure it was ya boy Griff Jenkins
"Teabag the fools in DC!"
... and these fine individuals from FreeRepublic.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:48 pm
by Vidav
Everytime someone talks about the tea party it makes me sad that these people didn't come up with a better name. I mean I understand the historical significance of it all but the name is so stupid. They deserve to be called teabaggers just for that.
Re: ObamaCare waivers jump from 222 to 729
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:53 pm
by Wedgebuster
Vidav wrote:Everytime someone talks about the tea party it makes me sad that these people didn't come up with a better name. I mean I understand the historical significance of it all but the name is so stupid. They deserve to be called teabaggers just for that.
..And they've become accoustomed to the sound, feel and taste of the label, even to to point of preference.
Think it might be ralated to the effects of the Stockholm Syndrome.
