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That's a whole lot of retard in one room.

Grizalltheway wrote:That's a whole lot of Iowa in one room.

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Oh. My. God.

He's not white. He must be muslim.

Welcome to ignorant red neck hicksville, I get to live in a similarly thinking part of the country myself. This kind of thinking walks into my doors all the time.

Really got a charge out of the kid that came in here to chew ass about his car rate going up after he rear-ended somebody in Billings. Went on to tell me that he was in the Guard, and had been to Iraq, and had he not gone over there to protect my ass, he would have fought the ticket and won.

Then he started to tell me I was going out of business because Obama had raised my taxes.

I agreed, and then asked him to kick in an extra fifty just to help me with my taxes.

He's doing business somewhere else now.

GSUAlumniEagle wrote:Oh. My. God.

He's not white. He must be muslim.

While I don't defend those people on the video, I think there's just a little more to it than that.

Frank Luntz - rightwing spinmeister extraordinaire... he's completely BESIDE himself... his reaction is priceless...

That's the most diverse lookin' group of people that I've ever seen.

∞∞∞ wrote:That's the most diverse lookin' group of people that I've ever seen.

for the Iowa GOP... old and young (under 45 is young there) fat and thin (just overweight is thin there) that IS diversity!

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:for the Iowa GOP... old and young (under 45 is young there) fat and thin (just overweight is thin there) that IS diversity!

Why did you feel the need to put GOP in there?

89Hen wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:for the Iowa GOP... old and young (under 45 is young there) fat and thin (just overweight is thin there) that IS diversity!

Why did you feel the need to put GOP in there?

'Cause they're Republicans...

89Hen wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:for the Iowa GOP... old and young (under 45 is young there) fat and thin (just overweight is thin there) that IS diversity!

Why did you feel the need to put GOP in there?

it's a GOP focus group...

If they are Republican caucus goers in Iowa most of them are Jesus freaks. There's a young guy in the middle row, sitting in front of the woman in red. $100 says he was home schooled. I bet over half of them listen to Steve Deace, a local talk radio/Jesus freak guy.

HI54UNI wrote:If they are Republican caucus goers in Iowa most of them are Jesus freaks. There's a young guy in the middle row, sitting in front of the woman in red. $100 says he was home schooled. I bet over half of them listen to Steve Deace, a local talk radio/Jesus freak guy.

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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

89Hen wrote: Why did you feel the need to put GOP in there?

it's a GOP focus group...

Talk about going over your head. Take the word GOP out and your statement is still true. Iowa (and most of the midwest) and Diversity don't belong in same sentence unless you put "has no" between them.

White persons, percent - 93.9%
Black persons, percent - 2.8%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons - 0.4%
Asian persons, percent - 1.7%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander - 0.1%
Persons reporting two or more races - 1.1%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin - 4.5%

89Hen wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
it's a GOP focus group...

Talk about going over your head. Take the word GOP out and your statement is still true. Iowa (and most of the midwest) and Diversity don't belong in same sentence unless you put "has no" between them.

White persons, percent - 93.9%
Black persons, percent - 2.8%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons - 0.4%
Asian persons, percent - 1.7%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander - 0.1%
Persons reporting two or more races - 1.1%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin - 4.5%

fair - however, my hunch is that the 6.1% that isn't white is something like 98.9% Democratic... just a hunch.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

89Hen wrote: Talk about going over your head. Take the word GOP out and your statement is still true. Iowa (and most of the midwest) and Diversity don't belong in same sentence unless you put "has no" between them.

White persons, percent - 93.9%
Black persons, percent - 2.8%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons - 0.4%
Asian persons, percent - 1.7%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander - 0.1%
Persons reporting two or more races - 1.1%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin - 4.5%

fair - however, my hunch is that the 6.1% that isn't white is something like 98.9% Democratic... just a hunch.

Probably not. The Hispanic/Latino vote is usually about 60% Dem.

89Hen wrote: Probably not. The Hispanic/Latino vote is usually about 60% Dem.

You're citing national election data. That 60% (actually closer to 70% in 2008) for Democrats counts Cuban Americans (largely in South Florida) that tend to vote Republican. I'm assuming... but, I think the Latino/Hispanic vote in Iowa would largely be Mexican and Central American... who tend to vote Democratic in higher numbers.

I think it's probably somewhere between the two of y'all's numbers.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

89Hen wrote: Probably not. The Hispanic/Latino vote is usually about 60% Dem.

You're citing national election data. That 60% for Dems counts Cuban Americans (largely in South Florida) that tend to vote Republican. I'm assuming... but, I think the Latino/Hispanic vote in Iowa would largely be Mexican and Central American... who tend to vote Democratic in higher numbers.

I think it's probably somewhere between the two of y'all's numbers.

yes and no...

while my 98% was hyperbole... 89 has a point... (and your point about s. florida is accurate too)

however 89, I should stress that while the GOP under Bush made big inroads with Latinos (a smart political strategy by Bush and Rove) the actions of Jan Brewer and the Arizona legislature has done much in the last two years to undo ALL of that. Latinos have abandoned the GOP en masse in the last four years as the anti-immigrant and anti-Latino rhetoric has ramped up from the right.

to tie that point back to the subject of the thread... there has been, for 40 years, a fear of "others" in the GOP - they used to hide it more, or perhaps better... there even used to be a strong element in the party that opposed such thinking... they've been run over and sent packing in the last 10 years. Witness a good portion of that panel insisting that Obama is a "secret Muslim" there is a reflexive fear of "the other" that has implanted itself in about 30-50% of the GOP base... it's not exactly anything new (not at all) it's just alarming that in this day and age it can 1) be still so prevalent and 2) still be so enthusiastically embraced by a political movement.

Skjellyfetti wrote:I think it's probably somewhere between the two of y'all's numbers.

So Iowa GOP is 95% white and Iowa Dems are 93% white.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
You're citing national election data. That 60% for Dems counts Cuban Americans (largely in South Florida) that tend to vote Republican. I'm assuming... but, I think the Latino/Hispanic vote in Iowa would largely be Mexican and Central American... who tend to vote Democratic in higher numbers.

I think it's probably somewhere between the two of y'all's numbers.

yes and no...

while my 98% was hyperbole... 89 has a point... (and your point about s. florida is accurate too)

however 89, I should stress that while the GOP under Bush made big inroads with Latinos (a smart political strategy by Bush and Rove) the actions of Jan Brewer and the Arizona legislature has done much in the last two years to undo ALL of that. Latinos have abandoned the GOP en masse in the last four years as the anti-immigrant and anti-Latino rhetoric has ramped up from the right....

...Except for that little election in blue New Mexico won by a Latina Republican who jerked the driver's licenses of illegal aliens... let's see, does anyone here have any direct experience with that particular election???

Looks like nativist wants to use an election in New Mexico as evidence of something in Iowa or nationwide.

He sounds like a Fox News focus group audience member, imo.

Skjellyfetti wrote:Looks like nativist wants to use an election in New Mexico as evidence of something in Iowa or nationwide.

He sounds like a Fox News focus group audience member, imo.

If you wish to avoid making a fool of yourself, it would be best to stick to something you understand and can articulate, such as differences among some Latino demographics. TTBF will not always be around to rescue your arse, and sometimes even he cannot do so.

Nativist... do you actually believe Republicans are making inroads with Hispanic voters nationally? Do you have evidence you'd like to show besides an election in New Mexico? Or do you think that is sufficient evidence?