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SUCK IT CHEYNEY!!!!! YOU LIBERTY KILLING BASTARD

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I know that he's an evil piece of shit, but there is some good even in scum like him and he deserves credit for shooting a lawyer in the face.

If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

Cheney and liberty.

native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

He's a draft-dodging piece of shit and his boss was an undesirably discharged piece of shit.

native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

really?

My take away from the Bush years was that it was CHENEY who was the principle architect of the MASSIVE domestic spying that was initiated. Cheney was the principle force in the administration (though not alone) in pushing the PATRIOT Act... that fact alone ought to be enough...

Interested in what makes you make such a contention...

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

really?

My take away from the Bush years was that it was CHENEY who was the principle architect of the MASSIVE domestic spying that was initiated. Cheney was the principle force in the administration (though not alone) in pushing the PATRIOT Act... that fact alone ought to be enough...

Interested in what makes you make such a contention...

He's dangerously delusional about his side of the aisle.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

really?

My take away from the Bush years was that it was CHENEY who was the principle architect of the MASSIVE domestic spying that was initiated. Cheney was the principle force in the administration (though not alone) in pushing the PATRIOT Act... that fact alone ought to be enough...

Interested in what makes you make such a contention...

He'll have to shoot 3 or 4 lawyers a day for the rest of his life to even begin to fix his karma.

Ron Paul supporters would be more comfortable at a moon-bat convention.

Bronco wrote:Ron Paul supporters would be more comfortable at a moon-bat convention.

Wrong thread, Bongo.


Looks like some nice nuggage in your bong. Grow it yourself?

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

really?

My take away from the Bush years was that it was CHENEY who was the principle architect of the MASSIVE domestic spying that was initiated. Cheney was the principle force in the administration (though not alone) in pushing the PATRIOT Act... that fact alone ought to be enough...

Interested in what makes you make such a contention...

I share your concerns about the Patriot Act and for the future of the Fourth amendment, but you hold Cheney up to a higher standard that that to which you hold your domestic heroes, and to a ridiculously higher standard than the rest of the world.

However,
1. Some emergency actions were probably necessary post 9/11, and
2. Really, how many innocent American citizens have been harmed in the past 9 1/2 years?

I stand by my proposition. Vice president Cheney is your honorable political opponent, not your enemy. I don't like it that he avoided service any more than you do and I would have preferred otherwise. But let's consider additional facts. In his own household, he has a loving, supportive and open family relationship with his lesbian daughter. He was a superb SecDef, and under his tenure as VP, the administration captured Sadam Hussein and a whole series of "#2" Al Qaeida operatives. He gave a superb political speech in China in 2004, which was censured by the Chinese. It was a better speech than any foreign policy speech given by Obama.

If Cheney was so bad, why are most the Bush administration's policies still followed by the Obama administration - including the hated Patriot Act?

Interested in how you can avoid coming to the same conclusion, ttbf.

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houndawg wrote:

Bronco wrote:Ron Paul supporters would be more comfortable at a moon-bat convention.

Wrong thread, Bongo.


Looks like some nice nuggage in your bong. Grow it yourself?

I guess you didn't know it was Ron Paul supporters that were doing the booing.

You may want to add Obama to your hate list.

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Obama Quietly Backs Patriot Act Provisions
Inter Press Service ^ | 11.23.09 | William Fisher

NEW YORK, 23 Nov (IPS) - With the health care debate preoccupying the mainstream media, it has gone virtually unreported that the Barack Obama administration is quietly supporting renewal of provisions of the George W. Bush-era USA Patriot Act that civil libertarians say infringe on basic freedoms.

And it is reportedly doing so over the objections of some prominent Democrats.

But with the apparent approval of the Obama White House and a number of Republicans – and over the objections of liberal Senate Democrats including Russ Feingold of Wisconsin and Dick Durbin of Illinois – the Senate Judiciary
Committee has voted to extend the three provisions with only minor changes.

Those provisions would leave unaltered the power of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to seize records and to eavesdrop on phone calls and e-mail in the course of counterterrorism investigations.

(Excerpt) Read more at ipsnorthamerica.net ...
________________________________________
Obama’s NSA eavesdropping goes beyond that of Bush... after campaigning on the promise of: “ No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me!”

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headlines read:” NSA Exceeds Legal Limits In Eavesdropping Program” , “ U.S. phone intercepts go beyond legal limits” , and “NSA Found Improperly Spying on Americans”.

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http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIs ... 9820090416" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04 ... americans/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bronco wrote:You may want to add Obama to your hate list.

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Obama Quietly Backs Patriot Act Provisions
Inter Press Service ^ | 11.23.09 | William Fisher

NEW YORK, 23 Nov (IPS) - With the health care debate preoccupying the mainstream media, it has gone virtually unreported that the Barack Obama administration is quietly supporting renewal of provisions of the George W. Bush-era USA Patriot Act that civil libertarians say infringe on basic freedoms.

And it is reportedly doing so over the objections of some prominent Democrats.

But with the apparent approval of the Obama White House and a number of Republicans – and over the objections of liberal Senate Democrats including Russ Feingold of Wisconsin and Dick Durbin of Illinois – the Senate Judiciary
Committee has voted to extend the three provisions with only minor changes.

Those provisions would leave unaltered the power of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to seize records and to eavesdrop on phone calls and e-mail in the course of counterterrorism investigations.

(Excerpt) Read more at ipsnorthamerica.net ...
________________________________________
Obama’s NSA eavesdropping goes beyond that of Bush... after campaigning on the promise of: “ No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me!”

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

headlines read:” NSA Exceeds Legal Limits In Eavesdropping Program” , “ U.S. phone intercepts go beyond legal limits” , and “NSA Found Improperly Spying on Americans”.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1239851 ... lenews_wsj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIs ... 9820090416" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04 ... americans/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Our country's left wing often goes well beyond mere hypocrisy and partisanship to indulge in extreme self-delusion and disinegnuity.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

really?

My take away from the Bush years was that it was CHENEY who was the principle architect of the MASSIVE domestic spying that was initiated. Cheney was the principle force in the administration (though not alone) in pushing the PATRIOT Act... that fact alone ought to be enough...

Interested in what makes you make such a contention...

Here is one of censured lines from Cheney's 2004 speech to the students of Shaghai's Fudan University:

"The war on terrorism must never be used as an excuse for silencing legitimate dissent."

http://articles.cnn.com/2004-04-21/worl ... s=PM:WORLD" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No hypocrisy... it pisses me off that Obama won't repeal it... but I understand why he won't... it's pure politics... and I don't blame him for making that calculation...

Forgot to add that Ron Paul is more and more appealing.

Edit: Wrong thread, I thought I had posted this in the "consessions" topic.

Bronco wrote:

houndawg wrote:


Wrong thread, Bongo.


Looks like some nice nuggage in your bong. Grow it yourself?

I guess you didn't know it was Ron Paul supporters that were doing the booing.

Why wouldn't true conservatives boo Cheney?

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:No hypocrisy... it pisses me off that Obama won't repeal it... but I understand why he won't... it's pure politics... and I don't blame him for making that calculation...

Then you should be delighted at the freshmen Tea Party Republicans who voted against extending the Patriot Act.

No?

My, my, what cognitive dissonance must be churning through your heart and mind.

Naive!!

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.

Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.

really?

My take away from the Bush years was that it was CHENEY who was the principle architect of the MASSIVE domestic spying that was initiated. Cheney was the principle force in the administration (though not alone) in pushing the PATRIOT Act... that fact alone ought to be enough...

Interested in what makes you make such a contention...

:roll

Wedgebuster wrote:Naive!!

Welcome to the thread, wedges.



Off target and full of... non-substance, as usual!

native wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:No hypocrisy... it pisses me off that Obama won't repeal it... but I understand why he won't... it's pure politics... and I don't blame him for making that calculation...

Then you should be delighted at the freshmen Tea Party Republicans who voted against extending the Patriot Act.

No?

My, my, what cognitive dissonance must be churning through your heart and mind.

even a busted clock is right twice a day.

/z

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

native wrote:
Then you should be delighted at the freshmen Tea Party Republicans who voted against extending the Patriot Act.

No?

My, my, what cognitive dissonance must be churning through your heart and mind.

even a busted clock is right twice a day.

/z

My condolences for your broken clock. I could recommend some reliable watch repair shops.

native wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
really?

My take away from the Bush years was that it was CHENEY who was the principle architect of the MASSIVE domestic spying that was initiated. Cheney was the principle force in the administration (though not alone) in pushing the PATRIOT Act... that fact alone ought to be enough...

Interested in what makes you make such a contention...

Here is one of censured lines from Cheney's 2004 speech to the students of Shaghai's Fudan University:

"The war on terrorism must never be used as an excuse for silencing legitimate dissent."

http://articles.cnn.com/2004-04-21/worl ... s=PM:WORLD" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Duh. That's what the Patriot Act is for.