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Cyber War

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:11 am
by kalm
Under threat of incriminating documents being released by Wikileaks in the near future, upstanding corporate citizens BofA and the Chamber of Commerce are hiring internet security firms to silence dissent. You libertarian/limited government types should be all over this stuff, but so far Cluck is the only one who gets it.
This week, hackers said they had penetrated the computers of HBGary Federal, a security company that sells investigative services to corporations, and posted tens of thousands of what appear to be its internal company e-mails on the Internet.

The documents appear to include pitches for unseemly ways to undermine adversaries of Bank of America and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, like doing background research on their critics and then distributing fake documents to embarrass them.

The bank and the chamber do not appear to have directly solicited the spylike services of HBGary Federal. Rather, HBGary Federal offered to do the work for Hunton & Williams, a corporate law firm that has represented them.

A Hunton & Williams spokesman did not comment. But spokesmen for Bank of America and the chamber said Friday that they had not known about the presentations and that HBGary Federal was never hired on their behalf. A chamber spokesman characterized the proposal as “abhorrent
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Here's one of their targets:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Cyber War

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:22 am
by kalm
On Oct. 19, a note arrived. HBGary Federal might be able to provide part of "a complete intelligence solution to a law firm that approached us." That law firm was DC-based powerhouse Hunton & Williams, which boasted 1,000 attorneys and terrific contacts. . . .

The three firms [HBGary, Berico and Palantir] needed a name for their joint operation. One early suggestion: a “Corporate Threat Analysis Cell.” Eventually, a sexier name was chosen: Team Themis.. . .

Team Themis decided to ask for $2 million per month, for six months, for the first phase of the project, putting $500,000 to $700,000 per month in HBGary Federal's pocket.

Palantir CEO Dr. Alex Karp wrote, "We do not provide — nor do we have any plans to develop -- offensive cyber capabilities . . . ." Berico said (PDF) that it "does not condone or support any effort that proactively targets American firms, organizations or individuals. We find such actions reprehensible and are deeply committed to partnering with the best companies in our industry that share our core values. Therefore, we have discontinued all ties with HBGary Federal."

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Spending $2 million per month is a pittance - I'm sure BofA and the Chamber have nothing to hide. BTW, these firms were referred to BofA by the DOJ. Good thing we don't live in a corporatocracy. :thumb:

Re: Cyber War

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:57 pm
by YoUDeeMan
kalm, have you read Liar's Poker yet?

Trust me..it is an entertaining read and an eye opener. You'll be through it in a weekend. :nod:

When you are done, take those same ideas and toss them onto the biggest banks...it is a wild West mentality...they think they can get away with murder.

It really is a hoot to work with banks and their marketing arms. :rofl:

Re: Cyber War

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:53 pm
by kalm
Cluck U wrote:kalm, have you read Liar's Poker yet?

Trust me..it is an entertaining read and an eye opener. You'll be through it in a weekend. :nod:

When you are done, take those same ideas and toss them onto the biggest banks...it is a wild West mentality...they think they can get away with murder.

It really is a hoot to work with banks and their marketing arms. :rofl:
Thanks for the reminder Cluck, I do need to read it. But would it be more relevant to read "The Big Short" instead?

Re: Cyber War

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:52 am
by blueballs
Cluck U wrote:kalm, have you read Liar's Poker yet?

Trust me..it is an entertaining read and an eye opener. You'll be through it in a weekend. :nod:

When you are done, take those same ideas and toss them onto the biggest banks...it is a wild West mentality...they think they can get away with murder.

It really is a hoot to work with banks and their marketing arms. :rofl:
All anybody who doubts that has to do is look at the new Federal Reserve rule on mortgage originator compensation to realize this is absolutely true.