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"Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:39 am
by kalm
Michigan Governor Rick Snyder is expanding on some groundwork layed by a previous Democratic governor.
Terrible idea.
According to the law, which has already been approved in the House, the governor will be able to declare "financial emergency" in towns or school districts and appoint someone to fire local elected officials, break contracts, seize and sell assets, and eliminate services.
Under the law whole cities or school districts could be eliminated without any public participation or oversight, and amendments designed to provide minimal safeguards and public involvement were voted down.
An amendment to require Emergency Managers to hold monthly public meetings to let people know how they are governing was rejected by Senate Republicans, along with proposals to cap Emergency Manager compensation and require that those appointed to run school districts have some background in education.
UPDATE: As has been pointed out to me, the legislative mechanics that Snyder is seeking to expand into what Republican state Senator Jack Brandenburg terms "financial martial law" were put in place by Democratic Governor Jim Blanchard -- the nonpartisan embrace of these policies further their likeness to the trade policies that people like Greider and Moyers reported on a decade ago.
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Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:44 am
by polsongrizz
Michigan=shithole
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:39 am
by Chizzang
polsongrizz wrote:Michigan=shithole
Yeah.. I was going to say: When do they start...
and while they're at it can they just burn the whole state to the ground and start over
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:40 am
by Bronco
polsongrizz wrote:Michigan=shithole
Tim will be sad to hear that.
Northern Michigan is beautiful
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:02 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
I've got some friends in Michigan - a buddy who goes to Detroit on business from Ann Arbor about once a week... he describes Detroit as Thunderdome and Ann Arbor as an oasis in the middle of a nightmare.
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:09 am
by polsongrizz
Bronco wrote:polsongrizz wrote:Michigan=shithole
Tim will be sad to hear that.
Northern Michigan is beautiful
Actually I was going to add that Traverse City is cool but the drive there sucks. I hit submit first and said F&*k it. The drive up there really is a drive through a shithole. Nothing really redeeming about it at all.
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:47 am
by mainejeff
kalm wrote:Michigan Governor Rick Snyder is expanding on some groundwork layed by a previous Democratic governor.
Terrible idea.
According to the law, which has already been approved in the House, the governor will be able to declare "financial emergency" in towns or school districts and appoint someone to fire local elected officials, break contracts, seize and sell assets, and eliminate services.
Under the law whole cities or school districts could be eliminated without any public participation or oversight, and amendments designed to provide minimal safeguards and public involvement were voted down.
An amendment to require Emergency Managers to hold monthly public meetings to let people know how they are governing was rejected by Senate Republicans, along with proposals to cap Emergency Manager compensation and require that those appointed to run school districts have some background in education.
UPDATE: As has been pointed out to me, the legislative mechanics that Snyder is seeking to expand into what Republican state Senator Jack Brandenburg terms "financial martial law" were put in place by Democratic Governor Jim Blanchard -- the nonpartisan embrace of these policies further their likeness to the trade policies that people like Greider and Moyers reported on a decade ago.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/1 ... 35526.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Another absolute power grab by another Republican.......BIG surprise there!
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:46 pm
by YoUDeeMan
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:I've got some friends in Michigan - a buddy who goes to Detroit on business from Ann Arbor about once a week... he describes Detroit as Thunderdome and Ann Arbor as an oasis in the middle of a nightmare.
Your friend is a myopic turd...no surprise there.
Plenty of places in Michigan outside of liberal control that are beautiful places. The UP is a fantstic place...conservative values. Detroit is a shit hole and a liberal stronghold...a prime example of what happens when libs get control.
Gee, where did all the money go?
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:52 pm
by kalm
Cluck U wrote:TwinTownBisonFan wrote:I've got some friends in Michigan - a buddy who goes to Detroit on business from Ann Arbor about once a week... he describes Detroit as Thunderdome and Ann Arbor as an oasis in the middle of a nightmare.
Your friend is a myopic turd...no surprise there.
Plenty of places in Michigan outside of liberal control that are beautiful places. The UP is a fantstic place...conservative values. Detroit is a shit hole and a liberal stronghold...a prime example of what happens when libs get control.
Gee, where did all the money go?
I go to Seattle and Portland quite often. Liberal bastions. I went to Dallas for the first time in January. Conk Shithole.
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:26 pm
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:Cluck U wrote:
Your friend is a myopic turd...no surprise there.
Plenty of places in Michigan outside of liberal control that are beautiful places. The UP is a fantstic place...conservative values. Detroit is a shit hole and a liberal stronghold...a prime example of what happens when libs get control.
Gee, where did all the money go?
I go to Seattle and Portland quite often. Liberal bastions. I went to Dallas for the first time in January. Conk Shithole.
Next time you head to Dallas, send me a note...I'll hook you up with some free thinking people.
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:10 pm
by CID1990
Recently I saw a set of pictures. They included a 1940s picture of Detroit and then a modern picture of Detroit.
Then they showed a 1940s picture of Hiroshima followed by a modern photo of Hiroshima.
Depressing.
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:56 pm
by SuperHornet
This has already happened in Cali, though it's restricted to the state taking over school districts.
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:37 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Cluck U wrote:TwinTownBisonFan wrote:I've got some friends in Michigan - a buddy who goes to Detroit on business from Ann Arbor about once a week... he describes Detroit as Thunderdome and Ann Arbor as an oasis in the middle of a nightmare.
Your friend is a myopic turd...no surprise there.
Plenty of places in Michigan outside of liberal control that are beautiful places. The UP is a fantstic place...conservative values. Detroit is a shit hole and a liberal stronghold...a prime example of what happens when libs get control.
Gee, where did all the money go?
1. my friend lives in southeast michigan... the michigan he sees is an oasis in ann arbor and thunderdome - never said he traveled the entire state.
2. northern michigan is also blue politically by the way - blue dog dem territory
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:39 am
by kalm
Cluck U wrote:kalm wrote:
I go to Seattle and Portland quite often. Liberal bastions. I went to Dallas for the first time in January. Conk Shithole.
Next time you head to Dallas, send me a note...I'll hook you up with some free thinking people.
Great! We can discuss why Portland has light rail, and more strip clubs than churches. We can compare Detroit and Mogadishu. Tell them I'll probably be coming down just after the new year.
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:39 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
kalm wrote:Cluck U wrote:
Next time you head to Dallas, send me a note...I'll hook you up with some free thinking people.
Great! We can discuss why Portland has light rail, and more strip clubs than churches. We can compare Detroit and Mogadishu. Tell them I'll probably be coming down just after the new year.
methinks the people he knows in dallas were the same people who formed a "greeting committee" in October of 63...
Re: "Financial Martial Law"
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:30 pm
by Chizzang
kalm wrote:Cluck U wrote:
Your friend is a myopic turd...no surprise there.
Plenty of places in Michigan outside of liberal control that are beautiful places. The UP is a fantstic place...conservative values. Detroit is a shit hole and a liberal stronghold...a prime example of what happens when libs get control.
Gee, where did all the money go?
I go to Seattle and Portland quite often. Liberal bastions. I went to Dallas for the first time in January. Conk Shithole.
If you think Dallas is a sh!thole... you should see Houston
Houston makes Dallas look like Shangri-La