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in terms of millions of dollars. At least if you're a conservatard it is.

House votes to eliminate funding for NPR, which in FY10 amounted to about 5 million.

Meanwhile, funding for military marching bands and a NASCAR sponsorship are left un touched.

The bill to the taxpayer for bands and racecars? Yep, 500 Million.

Not that any of this posturing was ever really about the buget, but it is now clear this is nothing more than partisan political bitching and moaning.

OSBF wrote:in terms of millions of dollars. At least if you're a conservatard it is.

House votes to eliminate funding for NPR, which in FY10 amounted to about 5 million.

Meanwhile, funding for military marching bands and a NASCAR sponsorship are left un touched.

The bill to the taxpayer for bands and racecars? Yep, 500 Million.

Not that any of this posturing was ever really about the buget, but it is now clear this is nothing more than partisan political bitching and moaning.

You got a source for that $500 million figure, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

OSBF wrote:in terms of millions of dollars. At least if you're a conservatard it is.

House votes to eliminate funding for NPR, which in FY10 amounted to about 5 million.

Meanwhile, funding for military marching bands and a NASCAR sponsorship are left un touched.

The bill to the taxpayer for bands and racecars? Yep, 500 Million.

Not that any of this posturing was ever really about the buget, but it is now clear this is nothing more than partisan political bitching and moaning.

And there's no better partisan bitcher and moaner on this board than you, Mensa-man!

A cut is a cut, but it's a new concept to the Dems.

AZGrizFan wrote:

OSBF wrote:in terms of millions of dollars. At least if you're a conservatard it is.

House votes to eliminate funding for NPR, which in FY10 amounted to about 5 million.

Meanwhile, funding for military marching bands and a NASCAR sponsorship are left un touched.

The bill to the taxpayer for bands and racecars? Yep, 500 Million.

Not that any of this posturing was ever really about the buget, but it is now clear this is nothing more than partisan political bitching and moaning.

You got a source for that $500 million figure, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

http://bettercareful.newsvine.com/_news ... ponsorship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OSBF wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
You got a source for that $500 million figure, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

http://bettercareful.newsvine.com/_news ... ponsorship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

dude - that's some peacenik site... not a news source.

I know the author of the "defund NASCAR" proposal personally - and it's more like $28 million in sponsorships. IMO a waste of money - but it's not $500 million. (and no, there is no WAY that all of our military bands combined cost 472 million...)

I don't love the de-funding of public broadcasting - but I also think they've built a funding model doesn't really need tax dollars anymore - they are largely self-sustaining... and while I don't like the crass and obvious reasons behind the gopers making such a production about 5 million bucks... i'm also not going to get bent out of shape about it (I'm much more worried about their plans to cut the National Weather Service)

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

OSBF wrote:
http://bettercareful.newsvine.com/_news ... ponsorship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

dude - that's some peacenik site... not a news source.

I know the author of the "defund NASCAR" proposal personally - and it's more like $28 million in sponsorships. IMO a waste of money - but it's not $500 million. (and no, there is no WAY that all of our military bands combined cost 472 million...)

I don't love the de-funding of public broadcasting - but I also think they've built a funding model doesn't really need tax dollars anymore - they are largely self-sustaining... and while I don't like the crass and obvious reasons behind the gopers making such a production about 5 million bucks... i'm also not going to get bent out of shape about it (I'm much more worried about their plans to cut the National Weather Service)

So, as expected, he DID pull it out of his ass.



What a maroon.

OSBF wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
You got a source for that $500 million figure, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

http://bettercareful.newsvine.com/_news ... ponsorship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeeesh.........

Dude You belong to a separate faction of Liberals I don't claim you

Chizzang wrote:

OSBF wrote:
http://bettercareful.newsvine.com/_news ... ponsorship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeeesh.........

Dude You belong to a separate faction of Liberals I don't claim you

yeah - i said that yesterday - on behalf of board donks... he is not a donk.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

Yeeesh.........

Dude You belong to a separate faction of Liberals I don't claim you

yeah - i said that yesterday - on behalf of board donks... he is not a donk.

The libs are splintering right before our eyes.

Washington post was the source cited by the writer.

Link was embeded near the top.

That's pretty credible.

OSBF wrote:Washington post was the source cited by the writer.

Link was embeded near the top.

That's pretty credible.

From your link:

Based on the Marine figures, total Defense Department spending could reach $500 million or more a year.

I've enlarged the operative word. That's not a"source"....that's speculation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03902.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From the same article:

A statute passed years ago by Congress, at the behest of the national musicians union, prevents the services from selling their recordings: They must be given away to educational and nonprofit organizations.

So, once again, unions are the problem.

Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????

mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????

because it's military spending.

no one every questions military spending

mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????

It's called marketing.

OSBF wrote:

mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????

because it's military spending.

no one every questions military spending

cep'n you Mensa members....youse some smart motherfuckers.

mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????

Good question - I don't know how many people enlist in the military because of what they see turning left on Sundays.

ASUG8 wrote:

mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????

Good question - I don't know how many people enlist in the military because of what they see turning left on Sundays.

Lots of southern rednecks in the military.

AZGrizFan wrote:

mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????

It's called marketing.

Marketing what???

ASUG8 wrote:

mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????

Good question - I don't know how many people enlist in the military because of what they see turning left on Sundays.

What's a full boat NASCAR sponsership go for these days? Last I heard it was something approaching 1M per race, 35-40M for a full season?

Still chickenfeed in the context of the entire federal buget, but tough to say it does more good for more taxpayers than 5M for NPR does.

AZGrizFan wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
Good question - I don't know how many people enlist in the military because of what they see turning left on Sundays.

Lots of southern rednecks in the military.

It's complete bullshit. We already fund the military with an advertising budget. Let them take the money out of that.

AZGrizFan wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
Good question - I don't know how many people enlist in the military because of what they see turning left on Sundays.

Lots of southern rednecks in the military.

Lots of rednecks from all over the country in the military.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

OSBF wrote:
http://bettercareful.newsvine.com/_news ... ponsorship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

dude - that's some peacenik site... not a news source.

I know the author of the "defund NASCAR" proposal personally - and it's more like $28 million in sponsorships. IMO a waste of money - but it's not $500 million. (and no, there is no WAY that all of our military bands combined cost 472 million...)

I don't love the de-funding of public broadcasting - but I also think they've built a funding model doesn't really need tax dollars anymore - they are largely self-sustaining... and while I don't like the crass and obvious reasons behind the gopers making such a production about 5 million bucks... i'm also not going to get bent out of shape about it (I'm much more worried about their plans to cut the National Weather Service)

The Marines put their yearly cost at $50 million

The Army estimates their cost at around $198 million

The total certainly should come in near $500 million once the Navy, Air Force are added in.