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This is a quagmire!

This is an illegal war!

Why are we involved?

This is Obamas Vietnam!

How many troops must die for Obamas war?


Barry is so fu*king clueless......I miss Bush.

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Just got back from the Code Pink rally down at the Capitol...

...I've signed up as a "Confused" member.

Face it, Barry doesnt even know this is going one, hes too busy working on his bracket.

Don't forget the Drone strikes we have going on in Mexico

dgreco wrote:Don't forget the Drone strikes we have going on in Mexico

I'll smear some guacamole on my chest at our next Code Pink rally.

Ole'

dgreco wrote:Don't forget the Drone strikes we have going on in Mexico

No drone strikes. Surveillance. Bit of a difference.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

dgreco wrote:Don't forget the Drone strikes we have going on in Mexico

No drone strikes. Surveillance. Bit of a difference.

You are correct... I take it back

travelinman67 wrote:Just got back from the Code Pink rally down at the Capitol...

...I've signed up as a "Confused" member.

Pink is very becoming on you T'man.

Gitmo still open
Afghanistan war still going on
unrest in Iraq still going on
and now Libya

but hey, when the white guy was doing it, it was bad.

How any Obama voting DEMOCRAT can defend this man's war record is beyond me.

catamount man wrote:
How [fill in the blank] is beyond me.

QFT!

catamount man wrote:Gitmo still open
Afghanistan war still going on
unrest in Iraq still going on
and now Libya

but hey, when the white guy was doing it, it was bad.

How any Obama voting DEMOCRAT can defend this man's war record is beyond me.

If our government is spending money, its bad no matter who is doing it.

It'd be really nice to use the money spent on these tomahawk missiles so far to build one or two state of the art schools that'll be used over and over to graduate bright students. And here's an ever crazier thought...when these students enter the work force, the return on the investment will be much higher than using the money to blow shit up. But I guess long-term investing has never been a strong suit of our government...

∞∞∞ wrote:It'd be really nice to use the money spent on these tomahawk missiles so far to build one or two state of the art schools that'll be used over and over to graduate bright students. And here's an ever crazier thought...when these students enter the work force, the return on the investment will be much higher than using the money to blow shit up. But I guess long-term investing has never been a strong suit of our government...

Truth. But military industrial complex > education industrial complex.

Don't forget about the oil - we wouldn't be in there if it wasn't for the oil...

There are a few far left Congresspeople who have at least been consistent on all of this and are calling for Obama's head.

I'll give them an A for consistency. It almost smells like integrity.

How the holy hell did we get sucked into this thing anyways? Unless we were worried about Iran or Al Qaeda taking over the entire middle East, all we had to do was sit back and let the whole region implode, and then back the winner so as to not disturb the flow of oil. Now yet again we're in a war with no clear exit strategy...

Rob Iola wrote:How the holy hell did we get sucked into this thing anyways? Unless we were worried about Iran or Al Qaeda taking over the entire middle East, all we had to do was sit back and let the whole region implode, and then back the winner so as to not disturb the flow of oil. Now yet again we're in a war with no clear exit strategy...

Well, in his defense, in this case it is real easy to disengage - we just stop bombing the place or flying over it. But yes, it would be nice to have an actual address or something on what we're doing, why we're doing it, and what the plan is. Of course, I'd like the hear that on both Afghanistan and Iraq since we're long overdue for an update on those fronts as well, but I'm not holding my breath. I don't mind taking action, I'd just like there to be some transparency in this.

GannonFan wrote:

Rob Iola wrote:How the holy hell did we get sucked into this thing anyways? Unless we were worried about Iran or Al Qaeda taking over the entire middle East, all we had to do was sit back and let the whole region implode, and then back the winner so as to not disturb the flow of oil. Now yet again we're in a war with no clear exit strategy...

Well, in his defense, in this case it is real easy to disengage - we just stop bombing the place or flying over it. But yes, it would be nice to have an actual address or something on what we're doing, why we're doing it, and what the plan is. Of course, I'd like the hear that on both Afghanistan and Iraq since we're long overdue for an update on those fronts as well, but I'm not holding my breath. I don't mind taking action, I'd just like there to be some transparency in this.

We could easily disengage from Afghanistan too, no? Just pack up and ship out. The reason why we don't is because we haven't met our clearly defined goals (they are clearly defined, aren't they?). So what are our goals for Libya?

Rob Iola wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Well, in his defense, in this case it is real easy to disengage - we just stop bombing the place or flying over it. But yes, it would be nice to have an actual address or something on what we're doing, why we're doing it, and what the plan is. Of course, I'd like the hear that on both Afghanistan and Iraq since we're long overdue for an update on those fronts as well, but I'm not holding my breath. I don't mind taking action, I'd just like there to be some transparency in this.

We could easily disengage from Afghanistan too, no? Just pack up and ship out. The reason why we don't is because we haven't met our clearly defined goals (they are clearly defined, aren't they?). So what are our goals for Libya?

I only meant that it's easier to stop firing missiles and flying over the country versus packing up men, gear, and equipment and then flying them halfway across the world. It would take weeks, and likely months, to leave Afghanistan. It just takes a decision and an instant to "leave" Libya. But I agree, what are the goals these days? I haven't heard a real goal in months regarding these forays.