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another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:10 am
by catamount man
...shown by the United States toward a country that has never attacked American soil, Libya. 48 innocent people DEAD.
Why is the MSM glorifying this? Where are the anti-war peace loving liberals?
President Obama should be impeached and tried for war crimes against humanity. Obama=Bush=Clinton=Bush=Reagan and so on.
Sad.

Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:04 am
by blueballs
Do these words carry any meaning- "Pan Am flight 103, Lockerbie, Scotland?"
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:42 am
by CitadelGrad
blueballs wrote:Do these words carry any meaning- "Pan Am flight 103, Lockerbie, Scotland?"
What we are doing in Libya now is in no way connected to Pan Am 103. Any attempt to create a linkage only makes you look foolish.
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:14 am
by BigSkyBears
catamount man wrote:...shown by the United States toward a country that has never attacked American soil, Libya. 48 innocent people DEAD.
Why is the MSM glorifying this? Where are the anti-war peace loving liberals?
President Obama should be impeached and tried for war crimes against humanity. Obama=Bush=Clinton=Bush=Reagan and so on.
Sad.

Yes, and the people who thought Obama was nothing like his predecessors were naive. One person can't change the way Washington works and the way America does operates its foreign policy. Well, maybe one person could but he or she was probably aborted or died in a senseless war.

Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:30 am
by blueballs
CitadelGrad wrote:blueballs wrote:Do these words carry any meaning- "Pan Am flight 103, Lockerbie, Scotland?"
What we are doing in Libya now is in no way connected to Pan Am 103. Any attempt to create a linkage only makes you look foolish.
Agreed, but any attempt to portray the intervention in Libya as the USA attacking an innocent nation is even more foolish. BTW, The USA should have taken Qadaffi out after that terrorist attack back in the 1980's.
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:37 am
by Bronco
“Make no mistake, today we are part of a broad coalition,”
BHO
5 partners and the ARAB League is already trying to pull out...
...after calling for a no fly zone
Arab League criticizes Western strikes on Libya
Canada.com/AFP ^ | 3/20/2011 | Unattributed
CAIRO - The Arab League on Sunday criticized Western military strikes on Libya, a week after urging the United Nations to slap a no-fly zone on the oil-rich North African state.
"What has happened in Libya differs from the goal of imposing a no-fly zone and what we want is the protection of civilians and not bombing other civilians," Arab League secretary general Amr Mussa told reporters.
On March 12, the Arab League urged the United Nations to impose a no-fly zone on Libya and said Moammar Gadhafi’s regime had "lost legitimacy" as it sought to snuff out a rebellion designed to oust him from power.
(Excerpt) Read more at canada.com ...
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:37 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
The next time some idiotfu*k complains about people dying in a war, I may have to pay somebody to fly out and punch your stupid ass in the face.
Nobody is innocent in a war moron.
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:59 pm
by catamount man
yes and certainly not the pissant GI JOES that voluntarily sign up to murder in the name of the empire's globalist agenda and then come back here and think I owe them something. Protecting our freedom my ass!!!!!!!!
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:33 pm
by SDHornet
Bronco wrote:“Make no mistake, today we are part of a broad coalition,”
BHO
5 partners and the ARAB League is already trying to pull out...
...after calling for a no fly zone
Arab League criticizes Western strikes on Libya
Canada.com/AFP ^ | 3/20/2011 | Unattributed
CAIRO - The Arab League on Sunday criticized Western military strikes on Libya, a week after urging the United Nations to slap a no-fly zone on the oil-rich North African state.
"What has happened in Libya differs from the goal of imposing a no-fly zone and what we want is the protection of civilians and not bombing other civilians," Arab League secretary general Amr Mussa told reporters.
On March 12, the Arab League urged the United Nations to impose a no-fly zone on Libya and said Moammar Gadhafi’s regime had "lost legitimacy" as it sought to snuff out a rebellion designed to oust him from power.
(Excerpt) Read more at canada.com ...

Shocker.

Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:57 pm
by Bronco
US approved $40 billion in 2009 private arms sales
WASHINGTON — The U.S. government approved $40 billion in worldwide private arms sales in 2009, including more than $7 billion to Mideast and North African nations that are struggling with political upheaval, the State Department reported.
From 2008 to 2009, the U.S. authorized increasing sales of military shipments to the now-toppled Egyptian government of Hosni Mubarak and the embattled kingdom of Bahrain. But the U.S. reduced its defense sales approvals in 2009 to Moammar Gadhafi’s Libyan government, which is now under a blanket weapons ban imposed last month by the Obama administration.
The $40 billion figure during the first year of the Obama administration reflects a rise in total approved arms sales over the final year of the Bush administration in 2008, when the State Department licensed $34.2 billion.
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Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:56 pm
by CID1990
blueballs wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:
What we are doing in Libya now is in no way connected to Pan Am 103. Any attempt to create a linkage only makes you look foolish.
Agreed, but any attempt to portray the intervention in Libya as the USA attacking an innocent nation is even more foolish. BTW, The USA should have taken Qadaffi out after that terrorist attack back in the 1980's.
There are plenty of non-innocent nations we have attacked in the past and been pilloried for it.
By the way, we HAVE attacked Libya before. In fact, I recall France refusing us permission to overfly their territory from Britain, which contributed to the loss of one of our F-111s along with the crew. I think France should be carrying the water on this one, if for no other reason than that.
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:58 pm
by CitadelGrad
blueballs wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:
What we are doing in Libya now is in no way connected to Pan Am 103. Any attempt to create a linkage only makes you look foolish.
Agreed, but any attempt to portray the intervention in Libya as the USA attacking an innocent nation is even more foolish. BTW, The USA should have taken Qadaffi out after that terrorist attack back in the 1980's.
We did try to take him out int he 80's. Reagan had his tent bombed and killed one of his kids. Anyway, if we decide to attack every nation that is not innocent, we'll be at war with the entire world. We were goaded into this by Britain and France who manipulated a weak ass president into continuing a costly and senseless interventionist foreign policy.
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:03 pm
by grizzaholic
Has Catman taken to the UNH schtick? Throw some shit against the wall and home some of it sticks and never come back unless it hits 40 posts......
Catman....I think you might be a better man than UNH....please prove me right.
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:14 pm
by kalm
CitadelGrad wrote:blueballs wrote:
Agreed, but any attempt to portray the intervention in Libya as the USA attacking an innocent nation is even more foolish. BTW, The USA should have taken Qadaffi out after that terrorist attack back in the 1980's.
We did try to take him out int he 80's. Reagan had his tent bombed and killed one of his kids. Anyway, if we decide to attack every nation that is not innocent, we'll be at war with the entire world. We were goaded into this by Britain and France who manipulated a weak ass president into continuing a costly and senseless interventionist foreign policy.
We'd have to attack ourselves. With Britain and France's permission of course.
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:16 pm
by YoUDeeMan
CitadelGrad wrote:We did try to take him out int he 80's. Reagan had his tent bombed and killed one of his kids. Anyway, if we decide to attack every nation that is not innocent, we'll be at war with the entire world. We were goaded into this by Britain and France who manipulated a weak ass president into continuing a costly and senseless interventionist foreign policy.
Obama is killing civilians...the Arab League has already said we've gone too far. And a rebel fighter plane gets shot down....WTF was he doing flying in a no fly zone anyway?.
It's a Democrat's wet dream!
Hey, TTBF...are you working on the spin? How's the "Iran wants Bahrain as a province" thing going?

Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:38 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Cluck U wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:We did try to take him out int he 80's. Reagan had his tent bombed and killed one of his kids. Anyway, if we decide to attack every nation that is not innocent, we'll be at war with the entire world. We were goaded into this by Britain and France who manipulated a weak ass president into continuing a costly and senseless interventionist foreign policy.
Obama is killing civilians...the Arab League has already said we've gone too far. And a rebel fighter plane gets shot down....WTF was he doing flying in a no fly zone anyway?.
It's a Democrat's wet dream!
Hey, TTBF...are you working on the spin? How's the "Iran wants Bahrain as a province" thing going?

hey shitbird - I never said that - never implied - never thought it.
talk to LeadBolt...
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:28 pm
by Appaholic
CitadelGrad wrote:We were goaded into this by Britain and France who manipulated a weak ass president into continuing a costly and senseless interventionist foreign policy.
Agree. It was payback for goading weak ass Blair into Iraq....oh yeah, and for that whole "Freedom Fries" incident...don't fok with the French...

Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:30 pm
by ∞∞∞
So is this an impeachable offense? I mean, you can't just go in guns ablazin' without Congress' authority, right?
Re: another unconstitutional act of violence...
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:21 pm
by Chizzang
CID1990 wrote:
By the way, we HAVE attacked Libya before. In fact, I recall France refusing us permission to overfly their territory from Britain, which contributed to the loss of one of our F-111s along with the crew. I think France should be carrying the water on this one, if for no other reason than that.
When you say "FRANCE" should be carrying the water... do you mean like so
or more traditionally like so...
