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Saw the segment on GMA this morning about the (mostly) GOP Congresspeople whose families took big farm subsidies. One guy from Bug Shit,Tennessee, refused to answer a simple yes-or-no question about whether he'd continue to accept the money in view of the budget crisis, saying only (with a shit-eating grin on his face) that "the system has to be changed." He might as well turn in his Tea Party membership card.

Have at it, Chizzang! I'm going to lunch.

Sorry for saying "shit" three times in one post, but....

Ivytalk wrote:Saw the segment on GMA this morning about the (mostly) GOP Congresspeople whose families took big farm subsidies. One guy from Bug Shit,Tennessee, refused to answer a simple yes-or-no question about whether he'd continue to accept the money in view of the budget crisis, saying only (with a shit-eating grin on his face) that "the system has to be changed." He might as well turn in his Tea Party membership card.

Have at it, Chizzang! I'm going to lunch.

Sorry for saying "shit" three times in one post, but....

I certainly don't think hypocrisy is the exclusive territory of the Republican Party
It tends to be everybody in politics - and - probably mostly right now The Tea Party - as they would really like everybody to believe that they are "beyond" the fringe of corruption....

But as a whole I'm completely comfortable hating them all (thank you very much)

Chizzang wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:Saw the segment on GMA this morning about the (mostly) GOP Congresspeople whose families took big farm subsidies. One guy from Bug ****,Tennessee, refused to answer a simple yes-or-no question about whether he'd continue to accept the money in view of the budget crisis, saying only (with a shit-eating grin on his face) that "the system has to be changed." He might as well turn in his Tea Party membership card.

Have at it, Chizzang! I'm going to lunch.

Sorry for saying "****" three times in one post, but....

I certainly don't think hypocrisy is the exclusive territory of the Republican Party
It tends to be everybody in politics - and - probably mostly right now The Tea Party - as they would really like everybody to believe that they are "beyond" the fringe of corruption....

But as a whole I'm completely comfortable hating them all (thank you very much)

bachmann - a chief offender.

the shit is hitting the in Montana and Wyoming as well. Wyoming's grossly Republican Legislature turned down over 24 million in extended unemployment benefits, and over 7 million in other federal funding to be used largely to retrain unemployed for jobs available in the work sector, citing that they did not want to encourage unemployed persons to say unemployed, and also to "send a message" to Washington that they and their money is not welcome in our state and telling us how to spend it, etc.

Meanwhile, a Cody Wy building contractor who's business has all but died off as a result of the 2007 credit crunch and the 2008 housing melt down is asking why workers in his industry aren't deserving of some relief when that sector has our highest unemployment rates, and pointing to the fact that five Republican Representatives who voted down the federal unemployment funds had no problem collecting farm/ranch subsidies from this same government benefiting them personally. One of them to the tune of over a million dollars since 1990. Even newly elected Gov Matt Mead who supported turning down the unemployment funds has received many thousands of dollars from the USDA in that length of time. The Casper Star Tribune just started a series about this very hypocrisy Tuesday this week.

Saw a letter in the Billings Gazette bringing up the same points and like figures from Republican Legislators who are wanting to refuse government health reform funds that citizens are in need of while at the same time lining their own pockets with hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars routed through the USDA.

Looks like huge doses of hypocrisy can and will be uncovered whenever one of these tea baggers opens their pie holes and starts yapping about government spending on things not coming directly to them, and at the same time feeling that their slice of the welfare hand outs are justified.

What a shocker..

It's fascinating really...
The Tea Party is actually turning out to be EXACTLY what all the liberal soccer moms and TV mouth pieces were criticized for saying it was

How interesting

And Obama is turning out just like the douche nozzles here on the right predicted he would

again, interesting...



Neither of these things were obvious to me (until now)

I'd consider running for office myself to clean up Dodge, but then I'd end up on Chizzy's everlasting shit list so it's probably not worth it.

Guess I'll rely on Marco Rubio.

Ivytalk wrote:I'd consider running for office myself to clean up Dodge, but then I'd end up on Chizzy's everlasting shit list so it's probably not worth it.

Guess I'll rely on Marco Rubio.

Well you already tossed me under the bus for being an H drop-out so you're already on my short list

Chizzang wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:I'd consider running for office myself to clean up Dodge, but then I'd end up on Chizzy's everlasting **** list so it's probably not worth it.

Guess I'll rely on Marco Rubio.

Well you already tossed me under the bus for being an H drop-out so you're already on my short list

I promise never to do that again. Buds?

Ivytalk wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Well you already tossed me under the bus for being an H drop-out so you're already on my short list

I promise never to do that again. Buds?

I've made my peace with that situation...
And ultimately everything worked out the way it was supposed to

.......................................................................................................................................
You're a lawyer so I can't really be your friend here on the hypocrisy thread - as that would be hypocritical of me...
but on any other thread we can be friends

Chizzang wrote:It's fascinating really...
The Tea Party is actually turning out to be EXACTLY what all the liberal soccer moms and TV mouth pieces were criticized for saying it was

How interesting

And Obama is turning out just like the douche nozzles here on the right predicted he would

again, interesting...



Neither of these things were obvious to me (until now)

Clear you need to listen to Rush and Maddow more to get your intel.

The United States currently pays around $20 billion per year to farmers in direct subsidies as "farm income stabilization"[9][10][11] via U.S. farm bills. These bills date back to the economic turmoil of the Great Depression with 1922 Grain Futures Act, the 1929 Agricultural Marketing Act and the 1933 Agricultural Adjustment Act creating a tradition of government support. A Canadian report claimed that for every dollar U.S. farmers earn, 62 cents comes from some form of government, with total aid in 2009 from all levels of government adding up to $180.8 billion.[12]

The beneficiaries of the subsidies have changed as agriculture in the United States has changed. In the 1930s, about 25% of the country's population resided on the nation's 6,000,000 small farms. By 1997, 157,000 large farms accounted for 72% of farm sales, with only 2% of the U.S. population residing on farms. In 2006, the top 3 states receiving subsidies were Texas (10.4%), Iowa (9.0%), and Illinois (7.6%). The Total USDA Subsidies from farms in Iowa totaled $1,212,000,000 in 2006.[13] From 2003 to 2005 the top 1% of beneficiaries received 17% of subsidy payments.[13] In Texas, 72% of farms do not receive government subsidies. Of the close to $1.4 Billion in subsidy payments to farms in Texas, roughly 18% of the farms receive a portion of the payments.[14]

"Direct payment subsidies are provided without regard to the economic need of the recipients or the financial condition of the farm economy. Established in 1996, direct payments were originally meant to wean farmers off traditional subsidies that are triggered during periods of low prices for corn, wheat, soybeans, cotton, rice, and other crops." [15]

Top states for direct payments were Iowa ($501 million), Illinois ($454 million), and Texas ($397 million). Direct payments of subsidies are limited to $40,000 per person or $80,000 per couple.[15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultur ... ted_States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Scorpio posted a stat in another thread that something like 90% of the ag subsidies in Montana went to districts controlled by a Republican and given the recent tea bagging activity of the Montana legislature I would say that's some pretty damn awesome hypocrisy.

Both sides are on welfare but at least the conks are smart enough to take greater advantage of it while admitting nothing.

Now excuse me while I go start my campaign to draft Ivy for office. Ivy, a conk Kalm can ge behind.

(no homo)

kalm wrote:

The United States currently pays around $20 billion per year to farmers in direct subsidies as "farm income stabilization"[9][10][11] via U.S. farm bills. These bills date back to the economic turmoil of the Great Depression with 1922 Grain Futures Act, the 1929 Agricultural Marketing Act and the 1933 Agricultural Adjustment Act creating a tradition of government support. A Canadian report claimed that for every dollar U.S. farmers earn, 62 cents comes from some form of government, with total aid in 2009 from all levels of government adding up to $180.8 billion.[12]

The beneficiaries of the subsidies have changed as agriculture in the United States has changed. In the 1930s, about 25% of the country's population resided on the nation's 6,000,000 small farms. By 1997, 157,000 large farms accounted for 72% of farm sales, with only 2% of the U.S. population residing on farms. In 2006, the top 3 states receiving subsidies were Texas (10.4%), Iowa (9.0%), and Illinois (7.6%). The Total USDA Subsidies from farms in Iowa totaled $1,212,000,000 in 2006.[13] From 2003 to 2005 the top 1% of beneficiaries received 17% of subsidy payments.[13] In Texas, 72% of farms do not receive government subsidies. Of the close to $1.4 Billion in subsidy payments to farms in Texas, roughly 18% of the farms receive a portion of the payments.[14]

"Direct payment subsidies are provided without regard to the economic need of the recipients or the financial condition of the farm economy. Established in 1996, direct payments were originally meant to wean farmers off traditional subsidies that are triggered during periods of low prices for corn, wheat, soybeans, cotton, rice, and other crops." [15]

Top states for direct payments were Iowa ($501 million), Illinois ($454 million), and Texas ($397 million). Direct payments of subsidies are limited to $40,000 per person or $80,000 per couple.[15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultur ... ted_States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Scorpio posted a stat in another thread that something like 90% of the ag subsidies in Montana went to districts controlled by a Republican and given the recent tea bagging activity of the Montana legislature I would say that's some pretty damn awesome hypocrisy.

Both sides are on welfare but at least the conks are smart enough to take greater advantage of it while admitting nothing.

Now excuse me while I go start my campaign to draft Ivy for office. Ivy, a conk Kalm can ge behind.

(no homo)

Glad you stuck in that last parenthetical, brutha!

Also just read an op-ed article about Orrin Hatch sucking up to the TP types in Utah to avoid the fate of Bob Bennett. Sad state of affairs. In my view, Hatch just needs to head home to his 18 wives and 97 kids and retire!