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Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:54 am
by Wedgebuster

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:43 pm
by Chizzang

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:52 pm
by dbackjon
You mean the college dropout, just got a DUI, no experience in the position donor's son?

Who got a 26K raise weeks after starting?


Fucking hypocritical THIEF.

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:48 pm
by blueballs
I'm sure the media outlets who ran this story have used the Freedom of Information Act or any similar "sunshine law" Wisconsin may have to identify the more qualified candidates who applied for the position and were overlooked....... or did the media outlets just run a one sided story based on a simple background check over the internet with no other investigation??????

I'll be interested to hear further about this...

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:49 pm
by dbackjon
blueballs wrote:I'm sure the media outlets who ran this story have used the Freedom of Information Act or any similar "sunshine law" Wisconsin may have to identify the more qualified candidates who applied for the position and were overlooked....... or did the media outlets just run a one sided story based on a simple background check over the internet with no other investigation??????

I'll be interested to hear further about this...

You are reaching, bb - you know there is no way to justify this. But I will give you an A for effort.

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:57 pm
by blueballs
dbackjon wrote:
blueballs wrote:I'm sure the media outlets who ran this story have used the Freedom of Information Act or any similar "sunshine law" Wisconsin may have to identify the more qualified candidates who applied for the position and were overlooked....... or did the media outlets just run a one sided story based on a simple background check over the internet with no other investigation??????

I'll be interested to hear further about this...

You are reaching, bb - you know there is no way to justify this. But I will give you an A for effort.
I don't disagree that on the surface this smells like a big stinking pile... but if there's one thing I distrust as little as a politician it is advocacy media.

If what appears to be true is true then shame on Walker although it is nothing more than sordid crony politics as usual (has it even been established that this is a cabinet controlled position and therefore under Walker's influence???) and I fully expect the same kind of investigation into other elected officials in Wisconsin and their hiring practices. If it is a hit piece by a democratic (read: union) sympathetic media then shame on them.

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:16 pm
by dbackjon
State Rep. Brett Hulsey called Deschane's appointment another case of the new administration using state jobs to repay various industries.

Hulsey said he was unimpressed with the younger Deschane's résumé, including his lack of environmental or management experience.

"It doesn't look like he's ever had a real job," the Madison Democrat said.

Hulsey noted that the recently approved law that made collective bargaining changes converts 37 top agency attorneys, communications officials and legislative liaisons from civil service positions to jobs appointed by the governor.

"This is an example of the quality of candidates you're going to get," said Hulsey, owner of the consulting firm Better Environmental Services.

According to his résumé, Deschane, 27, attended the University of Wisconsin-Madison for two years, worked for two Republican lawmakers - then-Sens. David Zien and Cathy Stepp, now the natural resources secretary - and helped run a legislative and a losing congressional campaign. He held part-time posts with the Wisconsin Builders Association and the Wisconsin Business Council until being named to his first state gig earlier this year.

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquar ... 59584.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:25 pm
by Grizalltheway
dbackjon wrote:State Rep. Brett Hulsey called Deschane's appointment another case of the new administration using state jobs to repay various industries.

Hulsey said he was unimpressed with the younger Deschane's résumé, including his lack of environmental or management experience.

"It doesn't look like he's ever had a real job," the Madison Democrat said.

Hulsey noted that the recently approved law that made collective bargaining changes converts 37 top agency attorneys, communications officials and legislative liaisons from civil service positions to jobs appointed by the governor.

"This is an example of the quality of candidates you're going to get," said Hulsey, owner of the consulting firm Better Environmental Services.

According to his résumé, Deschane, 27, attended the University of Wisconsin-Madison for two years, worked for two Republican lawmakers - then-Sens. David Zien and Cathy Stepp, now the natural resources secretary - and helped run a legislative and a losing congressional campaign. He held part-time posts with the Wisconsin Builders Association and the Wisconsin Business Council until being named to his first state gig earlier this year.

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquar ... 59584.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wow. :ohno: :ohno:

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:33 pm
by blueballs
Sure does look like "cronyism," doesn't it? And before anybody is too fast to condemn or celebrate just remember the toher side gets to appoint their "babies" if/when they return to power.

I'm not too sure which is worse, the political "cronyism" as demonstrated here (which all politicians do) or the government union cabal with the democratic party. Neither serves the best interest of the public. :evil:

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:36 pm
by travelinman67
blueballs wrote:Sure does look like "cronyism," doesn't it? And before anybody is too fast to condemn or celebrate just remember the toher side gets to appoint their "babies" if/when they return to power.

I'm not too sure which is worse, the political "cronyism" as demonstrated here (which all politicians do) or the government union cabal with the democratic party. Neither serves the best interest of the public. :evil:
Just another silly bitch by Donks.

While Gray Davis was CA's Governor, I used to teach Davis-Bacon labor compliance in seminars sponsored by the CA Dept of Labor (Dept of Industrial Relations), Division of Labor Standards Enforcement. All those who taught had to attend an annual "legal update" refresher down at the DLSE. During Davis's tenure, the DLSE was staffed by union representatives and shills who targeted non-union companies for harassment. During these so-called "legal update", the DLSE staffers would prod the attendees to determine their "allegiance", and tailor the topic content to "sell" the union position. Their methods were stunningly brazen, and never apologetic.
After Schwarznegger was elected, he cleaned house and and the incoming DIR Director canned all the union henchmen. After losing their state-funded enforcers, the unions resorted to sending their bullies to attend the any state-funded seminar they learned of, hijack the classes, then begin spewing their pro-union threats. After the first time my class was disrupted, I notified DLSE who sent an observer to attend my next class. Again, a union enforcer (from Northern California Laborers), whom I recognized, immediately began arguing, shouting, and actually threatened to "silence" me. The DLSE employee interrupted him, introduced herself, and terminated the class.
Afterward, I spoke to the gal about restricting class attendance to "legitimate" (vetted) employers/employees. The gal reminded me since the classes were state-funded, any attempt to restrict attendees would be discriminatory. The unions won; the classes came to an end.

For every Conk act of cronyism, I'll wager I can find a like or worse example of Donk cronyism. And when the unions are involved, it's rarely above-board or lawful.

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:39 pm
by Baldy
Grizalltheway wrote:
dbackjon wrote:State Rep. Brett Hulsey called Deschane's appointment another case of the new administration using state jobs to repay various industries.

Hulsey said he was unimpressed with the younger Deschane's résumé, including his lack of environmental or management experience.

"It doesn't look like he's ever had a real job," the Madison Democrat said.

Hulsey noted that the recently approved law that made collective bargaining changes converts 37 top agency attorneys, communications officials and legislative liaisons from civil service positions to jobs appointed by the governor.

"This is an example of the quality of candidates you're going to get," said Hulsey, owner of the consulting firm Better Environmental Services.

According to his résumé, Deschane, 27, attended the University of Wisconsin-Madison for two years, worked for two Republican lawmakers - then-Sens. David Zien and Cathy Stepp, now the natural resources secretary - and helped run a legislative and a losing congressional campaign. He held part-time posts with the Wisconsin Builders Association and the Wisconsin Business Council until being named to his first state gig earlier this year.

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquar ... 59584.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wow. :ohno: :ohno:
If Obama can appoint Czars, I guess Walker can too. :roll:

I can tell that not too many people on here has ever worked in state government before. Shit like this (and much worse) happens in every state, under every governor, in every party, so please don't act like this is some big surprise. :coffee:

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:06 pm
by JohnStOnge
This has absolutely nothing to do with the question of whether or not Walker is correct in doing what he's doing with respect to public employee unions.

This is "opposition research" designed to find some mud to throw at somebody who is doing something someone doesn't like.

He's right in doing what he's doing with respect to public employee unions. Period.

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:29 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
meh - patronage is part of the game. this isn't terribly egregious... that said - great find by an oppo researcher... high fives all around for kicking up this little shitstorm

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:05 am
by D1B
travelinman67 wrote:
blueballs wrote:Sure does look like "cronyism," doesn't it? And before anybody is too fast to condemn or celebrate just remember the toher side gets to appoint their "babies" if/when they return to power.

I'm not too sure which is worse, the political "cronyism" as demonstrated here (which all politicians do) or the government union cabal with the democratic party. Neither serves the best interest of the public. :evil:
Just another silly bitch by Donks.

While Gray Davis was CA's Governor, I used to teach Davis-Bacon labor compliance in seminars sponsored by the CA Dept of Labor (Dept of Industrial Relations), Division of Labor Standards Enforcement. All those who taught had to attend an annual "legal update" refresher down at the DLSE. During Davis's tenure, the DLSE was staffed by union representatives and shills who targeted non-union companies for harassment. During these so-called "legal update", the DLSE staffers would prod the attendees to determine their "allegiance", and tailor the topic content to "sell" the union position. Their methods were stunningly brazen, and never apologetic.
After Schwarznegger was elected, he cleaned house and and the incoming DIR Director canned all the union henchmen. After losing their state-funded enforcers, the unions resorted to sending their bullies to attend the any state-funded seminar they learned of, hijack the classes, then begin spewing their pro-union threats. After the first time my class was disrupted, I notified DLSE who sent an observer to attend my next class. Again, a union enforcer (from Northern California Laborers), whom I recognized, immediately began arguing, shouting, and actually threatened to "silence" me. The DLSE employee interrupted him, introduced herself, and terminated the class.
Afterward, I spoke to the gal about restricting class attendance to "legitimate" (vetted) employers/employees. The gal reminded me since the classes were state-funded, any attempt to restrict attendees would be discriminatory. The unions won; the classes came to an end.

For every Conk act of cronyism, I'll wager I can find a like or worse example of Donk cronyism. And when the unions are involved, it's rarely above-board or lawful.

Did anyone read this?

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:36 am
by kalm
D1B wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Just another silly bitch by Donks.

While Gray Davis was CA's Governor, I used to teach Davis-Bacon labor compliance in seminars sponsored by the CA Dept of Labor (Dept of Industrial Relations), Division of Labor Standards Enforcement. All those who taught had to attend an annual "legal update" refresher down at the DLSE. During Davis's tenure, the DLSE was staffed by union representatives and shills who targeted non-union companies for harassment. During these so-called "legal update", the DLSE staffers would prod the attendees to determine their "allegiance", and tailor the topic content to "sell" the union position. Their methods were stunningly brazen, and never apologetic.
After Schwarznegger was elected, he cleaned house and and the incoming DIR Director canned all the union henchmen. After losing their state-funded enforcers, the unions resorted to sending their bullies to attend the any state-funded seminar they learned of, hijack the classes, then begin spewing their pro-union threats. After the first time my class was disrupted, I notified DLSE who sent an observer to attend my next class. Again, a union enforcer (from Northern California Laborers), whom I recognized, immediately began arguing, shouting, and actually threatened to "silence" me. The DLSE employee interrupted him, introduced herself, and terminated the class.
Afterward, I spoke to the gal about restricting class attendance to "legitimate" (vetted) employers/employees. The gal reminded me since the classes were state-funded, any attempt to restrict attendees would be discriminatory. The unions won; the classes came to an end.

For every Conk act of cronyism, I'll wager I can find a like or worse example of Donk cronyism. And when the unions are involved, it's rarely above-board or lawful.

Did anyone read this?
I did, and I hope Tman was well compensated for teaching the class and having to put up with this shit. :mrgreen:

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:02 am
by travelinman67
kalm wrote:
D1B wrote:

Did anyone read this?
I did, and I hope Tman was well compensated for teaching the class and having to put up with this shit. :mrgreen:
Not one penny from the state. I wrote and sold software to manage Davis-Bacon contracts. Product placement.

:thumb:

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:25 am
by Appaholic
D1B wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Just another silly bitch by Donks.

While Gray Davis was CA's Governor, I used to teach Davis-Bacon labor compliance in seminars sponsored by the CA Dept of Labor (Dept of Industrial Relations), Division of Labor Standards Enforcement. All those who taught had to attend an annual "legal update" refresher down at the DLSE. During Davis's tenure, the DLSE was staffed by union representatives and shills who targeted non-union companies for harassment. During these so-called "legal update", the DLSE staffers would prod the attendees to determine their "allegiance", and tailor the topic content to "sell" the union position. Their methods were stunningly brazen, and never apologetic.
After Schwarznegger was elected, he cleaned house and and the incoming DIR Director canned all the union henchmen. After losing their state-funded enforcers, the unions resorted to sending their bullies to attend the any state-funded seminar they learned of, hijack the classes, then begin spewing their pro-union threats. After the first time my class was disrupted, I notified DLSE who sent an observer to attend my next class. Again, a union enforcer (from Northern California Laborers), whom I recognized, immediately began arguing, shouting, and actually threatened to "silence" me. The DLSE employee interrupted him, introduced herself, and terminated the class.
Afterward, I spoke to the gal about restricting class attendance to "legitimate" (vetted) employers/employees. The gal reminded me since the classes were state-funded, any attempt to restrict attendees would be discriminatory. The unions won; the classes came to an end.

For every Conk act of cronyism, I'll wager I can find a like or worse example of Donk cronyism. And when the unions are involved, it's rarely above-board or lawful.

Did anyone read this?
Not me, but I'll summarize....

TMan's 2nd wife's 1st cousin got him a gig as a teacher due to his business acumen. But then, the dem envirowhackos appointed his 1st wife's step-brother's lawyer to the post...who obviously is not as smart as TMan. So this proves that all state workers suck, all enviros hate and want to kill Uncle Sam, and TMan likes single malt...also sodomy (no homo)....

Re: Walker's Politics..

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:32 am
by CID1990
D1B wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Just another silly bitch by Donks.

While Gray Davis was CA's Governor, I used to teach Davis-Bacon labor compliance in seminars sponsored by the CA Dept of Labor (Dept of Industrial Relations), Division of Labor Standards Enforcement. All those who taught had to attend an annual "legal update" refresher down at the DLSE. During Davis's tenure, the DLSE was staffed by union representatives and shills who targeted non-union companies for harassment. During these so-called "legal update", the DLSE staffers would prod the attendees to determine their "allegiance", and tailor the topic content to "sell" the union position. Their methods were stunningly brazen, and never apologetic.
After Schwarznegger was elected, he cleaned house and and the incoming DIR Director canned all the union henchmen. After losing their state-funded enforcers, the unions resorted to sending their bullies to attend the any state-funded seminar they learned of, hijack the classes, then begin spewing their pro-union threats. After the first time my class was disrupted, I notified DLSE who sent an observer to attend my next class. Again, a union enforcer (from Northern California Laborers), whom I recognized, immediately began arguing, shouting, and actually threatened to "silence" me. The DLSE employee interrupted him, introduced herself, and terminated the class.
Afterward, I spoke to the gal about restricting class attendance to "legitimate" (vetted) employers/employees. The gal reminded me since the classes were state-funded, any attempt to restrict attendees would be discriminatory. The unions won; the classes came to an end.

For every Conk act of cronyism, I'll wager I can find a like or worse example of Donk cronyism. And when the unions are involved, it's rarely above-board or lawful.

Did anyone read this?
I did.

(And I read YOUR worthless sh!t too, fat boy.)