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"KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) — Suicide bombers and gunmen stormed a police compound in southern Afghanistan Thursday, opening fire and setting off explosions in a coordinated attack that killed six Afghan security forces

Attacks and fighting in Afghanistan have intensified recently, with insurgents coming from neighboring Pakistan as the annual spring fighting season gets underway.

In a separate incident, an Afghan border policeman who shot dead two U.S. Army soldiers earlier this week was killed on Thursday during a joint operation by Afghan and coalition troops, NATO said.

Monday's shooting took place inside a base in Faryab and the border policeman fled.

There have been numerous cases in the past of Afghan soldiers or police turning on their Western counterparts or of an insurgent disguising himself in uniform to infiltrate a compound and attack from inside."

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Two more dead US soldiers this week and spring season has just started.

skelly will be sending money to support the soldiers families...because he believes they are fighting the right war....because Obama told him it was so.

we're being brainwashed.

Cluck - sorry bud, but to call this Obama's war shows you are a fucking moron.

To be fair, Jon, nobody really remembers Vietnam as Kennedy's war...

With soldiers deaths up 60% since he became commander in chief it's time to get them all out before any more die from his incompetence.

I wouldn't call this Obama's war. It started on Bushs' watch, although I guess you could argue that Bin Laden started it. I had no problem with Bush sending the military into Afghanistan, but it is time to bring our troops home.

Obama should either bring the troops home or give a convincing argument as to why we need to stay. I won't hold my breath on the "convincing argument".

BlueHen86 wrote:I wouldn't call this Obama's war. It started on Bushs' watch, although I guess you could argue that Bin Laden started it. I had no problem with Bush sending the military into Afghanistan, but it is time to bring our troops home.

Obama should either bring the troops home or give a convincing argument as to why we need to stay. I won't hold my breath on the "convincing argument".

Depends on who writes the speech. He do read a mean speech.

AZGrizFan wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:I wouldn't call this Obama's war. It started on Bushs' watch, although I guess you could argue that Bin Laden started it. I had no problem with Bush sending the military into Afghanistan, but it is time to bring our troops home.

Obama should either bring the troops home or give a convincing argument as to why we need to stay. I won't hold my breath on the "convincing argument".

Depends on who writes the speech. He do read a mean speech.

My TelePrompTer said what!!??

dbackjon wrote:Cluck - sorry bud, but to call this Obama's war shows you are a fucking moron.

Really, dbarrack?

Who's the President of the United States right now?

Who could pull the troops out right now if he wanted to?

Who has supported this war from the beginning?

Who said the Afghanistan war was the right war and continues to say it is the right war?

Who approved additional predator attacks into neighboring Pakistan?

Who added additional troops to Afghanistan?

Under who's watch have more troops been killed in this war?

Guess what, sparky? Regardless of who started this crap and what you think, this is definitely Obama's war. It is Obama's to end or Obama's to continue. Obama's to blame for additional American deaths and injuries as we continue to put our troops into more areas.

All of the above make it Obama's war...the war he supported and continues to support, from the very beginning. As long as Obama keeps our troops there, it is Obama's war.

And for what, fucking moron?

dbackjon wrote:Cluck - sorry bud, but to call this Obama's war shows you are a **** moron.

Then the left wing press imust also be moronic since both PBS and The Guardian call it "Obama's War."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/de ... nistan-war" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/1 ... 16455.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009 ... rces_N.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As you may recall, Obama the Senator, Obama the candidate, and Obama the president has consistently favored the Afghan War.

Surely nativist and Cluck U have consistently been against the Afghanistan War since 2001, right?

Cluck U wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Cluck - sorry bud, but to call this Obama's war shows you are a **** moron.

Really, dbarrack?

Who's the President of the United States right now?

Who could pull the troops out right now if he wanted to?

Who has supported this war from the beginning?

Who said the Afghanistan war was the right war and continues to say it is the right war?

Who approved additional predator attacks into neighboring Pakistan?

Who added additional troops to Afghanistan?

Under who's watch have more troops been killed in this war?

Guess what, sparky? Regardless of who started this crap and what you think, this is definitely Obama's war. It is Obama's to end or Obama's to continue. Obama's to blame for additional American deaths and injuries as we continue to put our troops into more areas.

All of the above make it Obama's war...the war he supported and continues to support, from the very beginning. As long as Obama keeps our troops there, it is Obama's war.

And for what, **** moron?

Sing it with me people! " "The Candy Man can...."

Cluck U wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Cluck - sorry bud, but to call this Obama's war shows you are a **** moron.

Really, dbarrack?

Who's the President of the United States right now?

Who could pull the troops out right now if he wanted to?

Who has supported this war from the beginning?

Who said the Afghanistan war was the right war and continues to say it is the right war?

Who approved additional predator attacks into neighboring Pakistan?

Who added additional troops to Afghanistan?

Under who's watch have more troops been killed in this war?

Guess what, sparky? Regardless of who started this crap and what you think, this is definitely Obama's war. It is Obama's to end or Obama's to continue. Obama's to blame for additional American deaths and injuries as we continue to put our troops into more areas.

All of the above make it Obama's war...the war he supported and continues to support, from the very beginning. As long as Obama keeps our troops there, it is Obama's war.

And for what, **** moron?

It's heartening to see you've gotten smarter since Jan. '09, chuck.

Pretty impressive how one darkie has turned you into a fire-breathing anti-war liberal.

Skjellyfetti wrote:Surely nativist and Cluck U have consistently been against the Afghanistan War since 2001, right?

You really are a silly little dumb shit. What do my feelings about the war have to do with Affy not being Obama's war?

Afghanistan is Obama's war...to argue that point shows your ignorance. It is almost amusing to see someone like you hang on to partisan poltics...people with such ideas are so weak.

Your President is getting our low income boys killed for what?

Pathetic.

houndawg wrote:It's heartening to see you've gotten smarter since Jan. '09, chuck.

Pretty impressive how one darkie has turned you into a fire-breathing anti-war liberal.

Darkie? Is that what comes to your mind? Something you want to tell everyone?

It is interesting that only people like you bring up race. Maybe you should put that on your resume..."As a leader of the working class, I'd like to tell you that I, houndawg, identify people as "darkies". But don't worry, I like you darkies...you give me something to talk about when I've run out of real ideas."

Hey, Tampajag...houndawg likes to use the word, "darkie". But, he'd tolerate your presence because, to him, you're a cool "darkie".

Congrats, dawg, you've exposed yourself as an ignorant tool.

Cluck U wrote:

houndawg wrote:It's heartening to see you've gotten smarter since Jan. '09, chuck.

Pretty impressive how one darkie has turned you into a fire-breathing anti-war liberal.

Darkie? Is that what comes to your mind? Something you want to tell everyone?

It is interesting that only people like you bring up race. Maybe you should put that on your resume..."As a leader of the working class, I'd like to tell you that I, houndawg, identify people as "darkies". But don't worry, I like you darkies...you give me something to talk about when I've run out of real ideas."

Hey, Tampajag...houndawg likes to use the word, "darkie". But, he'd tolerate your presence because, to him, you're a cool "darkie".

Congrats, dawg, you've exposed yourself as an ignorant tool.

Loving your new image as the defender of the oppressed, pluck. Looks good on you.

native wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Cluck - sorry bud, but to call this Obama's war shows you are a **** moron.

Then the left wing press imust also be moronic since both PBS and The Guardian call it "Obama's War."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/de ... nistan-war" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/1 ... 16455.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009 ... rces_N.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As you may recall, Obama the Senator, Obama the candidate, and Obama the president has consistently favored the Afghan War.

Obama didn't start it but it's his war now.

Get out now, Bush will just have to live with being punked by an Ayrab.

Cluck U wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:Surely nativist and Cluck U have consistently been against the Afghanistan War since 2001, right?

You really are a silly little dumb shit. What do my feelings about the war have to do with Affy not being Obama's war?

Afghanistan is Obama's war...to argue that point shows your ignorance. It is almost amusing to see someone like you hang on to partisan poltics...people with such ideas are so weak.

Your President is getting our low income boys killed for what?

Pathetic.

I wasn't arguing about whether or not it's "Obama's war" Didn't say anything remotely close to that.



I was saying that I sure hope you and nativists and others that are so adamantly against it now have been consistently against it since 2001... and not just since Obama was sworn in.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
You really are a silly little dumb shit. What do my feelings about the war have to do with Affy not being Obama's war?

Afghanistan is Obama's war...to argue that point shows your ignorance. It is almost amusing to see someone like you hang on to partisan poltics...people with such ideas are so weak.

Your President is getting our low income boys killed for what?

Pathetic.

I wasn't arguing about whether or not it's "Obama's war" Didn't say anything remotely close to that.



I was saying that I sure hope you and nativists and others that are so adamantly against it now have been consistently against it since 2001... and not just since Obama was sworn in.

You have previously argued that Affy was Bush's war...so you are now changing your opinion.

Great..then you agree that Afghanistan is Obama's war...and you said earlier that you support the Afghan war.

So exactly WHY do you support the Afghan war? Today.

Oh, and I already answered your question...if you laid off the peyote you might remember my response.

Cluck U wrote: You have previously argued that Affy was Bush's war...so you are now changing your opinion.

No. I haven't. I think it's silly and pointless to label a war a possessive of a particular president one way or another.

Cluck U wrote:So exactly WHY do you support the Afghan war?

Already answered your question... if you laid off the peyote you might remember my response.

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Cluck U wrote: Oh, and I already answered your question...if you laid off the peyote you might remember my response.

When? I remember you saying you wish we blasted the country from the beginning. But, that's not the question I was asking.

When exactly did your support of the war end? When Obama was sworn in? If you answered already and I was out tripping in the desert and missed your response, please link.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

Cluck U wrote:So exactly WHY do you support the Afghan war?

Already answered your question... if you laid off the peyote you might remember my response.

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No peyote involved on my end. Your response seems to be why you supported the war...because of 9/11. As I said in the other thread...anyone not supporting the Affy war initially should be shot. But you can't possibly be saying that you continue to support the Afghan war because of 9/11, could you? That would make you an even bigger ignorant party hack...if such a thing is possible.

Psssst....we aren't fighting AQ in Afghanistan...we're fighting a bunch of local drug dealers who want to protect their territories. And you are supporting that effort.

Funny, we don't bother to fight the ones directly across our border in Mexico, but you'll support sending tens of thousands of troops to mess with a bunch of ignorant, toothless buffoons who don't give a rats azz about America.

Oh, and to answer your question, again, my support for Affy ended a while back...even Ralph thought I was a liberal when I first started posting on the AGS poli-board. That was well before Obama was a speck on the political landscape.

Of course, houndawg would probably attribute that stance to me hating old white guys.

Cluck U wrote: No peyote involved on my end. Your response seems to be why you supported the war...because of 9/11. As I said in the other thread...anyone not supporting the Affy war initially should be shot. But you can't possibly be saying that you continue to support the Afghan war because of 9/11, could you? That would make you an even bigger ignorant party hack...if such a thing is possible.

Psssst....we aren't fighting AQ in Afghanistan...we're fighting a bunch of local drug dealers who want to protect their territories. And you are supporting that effort.

Al Qaeda doesn't have a very strong presence in Afghanistan, currently. But, there was a report last week in the Wall Street Journal that they were coming back to camps in Eastern Afghanistan where US troops had retreated.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 72584.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Al Qaeda is still massed just over the border in Pakistan. Once we leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will take back the government, Al Qaeda will set up shop again. And we'll be right back where we started.

Cluck U wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Already answered your question... if you laid off the peyote you might remember my response.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=22899&p=463151&hil ... an#p463151" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No peyote involved on my end. Your response seems to be why you supported the war...because of 9/11. As I said in the other thread...anyone not supporting the Affy war initially should be shot. But you can't possibly be saying that you continue to support the Afghan war because of 9/11, could you? That would make you an even bigger ignorant party hack...if such a thing is possible.

Psssst....we aren't fighting AQ in Afghanistan...we're fighting a bunch of local drug dealers who want to protect their territories. And you are supporting that effort.

Funny, we don't bother to fight the ones directly across our border in Mexico, but you'll support sending tens of thousands of troops to mess with a bunch of ignorant, toothless buffoons who don't give a rats azz about America.

Oh, and to answer your question, again, my support for Affy ended a while back...even Ralph thought I was a liberal when I first started posting on the AGS poli-board. That was well before Obama was a speck on the political landscape.

Of course, houndawg would probably attribute that stance to me hating old white guys.

I think that the down part of your mood swing is going to be very bad.


So what pretext should we use to invade Mexico, Clark?

Skjellyfetti wrote:Al Qaeda doesn't have a very strong presence in Afghanistan, currently. But, there was a report last week in the Wall Street Journal that they were coming back to camps in Eastern Afghanistan where US troops had retreated.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 72584.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Al Qaeda is still massed just over the border in Pakistan. Once we leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will take back the government, Al Qaeda will set up shop again. And we'll be right back where we started.

From your own article:

"There is debate within the U.S. military and intelligence community about the scope of the al Qaeda problem in Afghanistan. The September strike was watched carefully and "was a big deal," said another military official.

But that official and others said the numbers remain small enough to manage and that camps are, at worst, few and far between and largely temporary. And almost all U.S. and Afghan officials caution that al Qaeda isn't yet secure enough in northeastern Afghanistan to use the area as a staging ground for attacks overseas."



Seriously, your article is full of contradictions...even the "experts" can't agree on what to do...except spend more money.

Yet you firmly, just as firmly as the war mongers in Vietnam, believe that we need more of our troops killed in some backwards country. Congrats, killer.

houndawg wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
No peyote involved on my end. Your response seems to be why you supported the war...because of 9/11. As I said in the other thread...anyone not supporting the Affy war initially should be shot. But you can't possibly be saying that you continue to support the Afghan war because of 9/11, could you? That would make you an even bigger ignorant party hack...if such a thing is possible.

Psssst....we aren't fighting AQ in Afghanistan...we're fighting a bunch of local drug dealers who want to protect their territories. And you are supporting that effort.

Funny, we don't bother to fight the ones directly across our border in Mexico, but you'll support sending tens of thousands of troops to mess with a bunch of ignorant, toothless buffoons who don't give a rats azz about America.

Oh, and to answer your question, again, my support for Affy ended a while back...even Ralph thought I was a liberal when I first started posting on the AGS poli-board. That was well before Obama was a speck on the political landscape.

Of course, houndawg would probably attribute that stance to me hating old white guys.

I think that the down part of your mood swing is going to be very bad.


So what pretext should we use to invade Mexico, Clark?

You need to turn in the "houndawg" name...hounds are known to be good trackers. You, on the other hand, have no clue.

kneejerk would be a more accurate screen name for you.