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Man, I wish you all could see the emails going back and forth at work today, regarding the impending shutdown.

Nobody knows how to do it! We've got Generals calling old ladies that were here in 1995 asking what they did then.

This is great fucking theater.

Gonna be really great when all the Fed workers get a couple weeks of retro paid leave.

93henfan wrote:Man, I wish you all could see the emails going back and forth at work today, regarding the impending shutdown.

Nobody knows how to do it! We've got Generals calling old ladies that were here in 1995 asking what they did then.

This is great fucking theater.

Are you essential?

The pepes you dole money out to won't be getting paid, right, 93?

ASUG8 wrote:Are you essential?

Nobody knows! I'm being treated as such, as I was just told by my boss that I will be working tomorrow to send out stop-work letters if the shutdown happens. My son's opening game of little league is tomorrow .

I found out about a month ago before the first near-shutdown that my position is not funded with annual appropriations, but rather a defense working capital fund, so I will continue to work and be paid next week regardless of what happens.

Grizalltheway wrote:The pepes you dole money out to won't be getting paid, right, 93?

Actually, the majority of our contracts will continue uninterrupted as they are supporting warfighters in theater. Our biggest concern is that some projects will run out of money during a shutdown and our finance peeps will be on furlough, so we will have no way of getting more money. We incrementally fund just about all of our projects.

Gotcha.

Grizalltheway wrote:Gotcha.

Hey, GATW, did anyone ever tell you that the guy drinking a glass of water and staring at the lady's azz in your siggy looks like Joe Biden?

I look forward to more of 93's postings as the story develops. Sure beats anything Jonathan Karl or George Stephanopoulos can come up with!

I'm working next week. I'm a state employee, but my position and agency are 100% federally funded.

Ivytalk wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:Gotcha.

Hey, GATW, did anyone ever tell you that the guy drinking a glass of water and staring at the lady's azz in your siggy looks like Joe Biden?

I look forward to more of 93's postings as the story develops. Sure beats anything Jonathan Karl or George Stephanopoulos can come up with!

I've actually been told he's my old man's doppelgänger.

Ivytalk wrote:I look forward to more of 93's postings as the story develops. Sure beats anything Jonathan Karl or George Stephanopoulos can come up with!

Latest drama for us today is contractors on travel. We have people all over the globe on our contract. The contractor just sent us a list of projects that will expend all money if we allow the travel to run its course. We can't allow that to happen, so we will likely have to fly them home early, which will end up costing even more money in the long run.

Shutdowns are pretty damn expensive. We'll be paying double travel on some contracts. We're pissing off international people who we're canceling meetings with. The government contracting staff (including me) will be getting paid overtime this weekend.

Tea Party fail.

Of course, this is all a moot point if Harry and Johnny can kiss and make up by midnight.

93henfan wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:I look forward to more of 93's postings as the story develops. Sure beats anything Jonathan Karl or George Stephanopoulos can come up with!

Latest drama for us today is contractors on travel. We have people all over the globe on our contract. The contractor just sent us a list of projects that will expend all money if we allow the travel to run its course. We can't allow that to happen, so we will likely have to fly them home early, which will end up costing even more money in the long run.

Shutdowns are pretty damn expensive. We'll be paying double travel on some contracts. We're pissing off international people who we're canceling meetings with. The government contracting staff (including me) will be getting paid overtime this weekend.

Tea Party fail.

Of course, this is all a moot point if Harry and Johnny can kiss and make up by midnight.

This shutdown crap is all bullshit, but you can't blame this one on the Tea party people.

Baldy wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Latest drama for us today is contractors on travel. We have people all over the globe on our contract. The contractor just sent us a list of projects that will expend all money if we allow the travel to run its course. We can't allow that to happen, so we will likely have to fly them home early, which will end up costing even more money in the long run.

Shutdowns are pretty damn expensive. We'll be paying double travel on some contracts. We're pissing off international people who we're canceling meetings with. The government contracting staff (including me) will be getting paid overtime this weekend.

Tea Party fail.

Of course, this is all a moot point if Harry and Johnny can kiss and make up by midnight.

This shutdown crap is all bullshit, but you can't blame this one on the Tea party people.

Both sides are to blame. 2nd graders are better at compromising than these fuckwads.

Try the U/A CinC who vetoed a bill that would have funded the military operations HE authorized in the first place for the rest of the year (with simultaneous cost savings) because there was nothing in the bill to fund Harry Reid's pet projects.

What a maroon....

Grizalltheway wrote:

Baldy wrote: This shutdown crap is all bullshit, but you can't blame this one on the Tea party people.

Both sides are to blame. 2nd graders are better at compromising than these ****.

It's like D1B and JoltinJoe!

Grizalltheway wrote:Both sides are to blame. 2nd graders are better at compromising than these fuckwads.

Agreed, but I've noticed a different message from the two sides. R's are saying "we must have the cuts". D's are saying "we don't know why we can't come to terms". Both are political ploys, but one is to get what they want, the other is to get voter sentiment.

Grizalltheway wrote:

Baldy wrote: This shutdown crap is all bullshit, but you can't blame this one on the Tea party people.

Both sides are to blame. 2nd graders are better at compromising than these fuckwads.

No doubt, but this budget should have been wrapped up back in October, long before the Tea party folks came to town.

Baldy wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Both sides are to blame. 2nd graders are better at compromising than these fuckwads.

No doubt, but this budget should have been wrapped up back in October, long before the Tea party folks came to town.

Yeah, and you would have been the first malcontent here to accuse Obama of fastracking before the new crop of clowns arrive.

Amazingly, I agree with BOTH sides here, including the troll.

The dimwitted Donkeys COULD have passed it with their supermajority, but they fiddle-farted around and lost thier chance. But the Elephants (especially the Tea Party crowd) would have screamed bloody murder (at the time) over Obama's jamming his trash down the people's throats like he did with that abortion known as Obamacare.

Agreed that some sort of compromise is required. Not so sure that the current crop are adult enough to do so.

D1B wrote:

Baldy wrote: No doubt, but this budget should have been wrapped up back in October, long before the Tea party folks came to town.

Yeah, and you would have been the first malcontent here to accuse Obama of fastracking before the new crop of clowns arrive.

Oh, please.

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote:

Yeah, and you would have been the first malcontent here to accuse Obama of fastracking before the new crop of clowns arrive.

Oh, please.

you laugh - but his statement is entirely accurate... that's EXACTLY what would have happened.

SuperHornet wrote:Amazingly, I agree with BOTH sides here, including the troll.

The dimwitted Donkeys COULD have passed it with their supermajority, but they fiddle-farted around and lost thier chance. But the Elephants (especially the Tea Party crowd) would have screamed bloody murder (at the time) over Obama's jamming his trash down the people's throats like he did with that abortion known as Obamacare.

Agreed that some sort of compromise is required. Not so sure that the current crop are adult enough to do so.

time for Poli Sci 101:

the Dems NEVER had a supermajority. never happened.

a supermajority is 2/3 of the votes in a chamber. the Dems peaked in the Senate with 60, for about 17 months (after Coleman finally gave up his legal challenges and Franken was sworn in) 67 is needed for a supermajority

in the house, the Dems were nowhere near the 2/3.

while the 60 in the Senate was significant in that it could shut down a filibuster - it was NOT a supermajority (the 2/3 required to override vetos) and even then, it would require the kind of party unity the Dems diverse coalition rarely has...

Anybody heard from Col Hogan? Wonder what his status might be through all this mess.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Oh, please.

you laugh - but his statement is entirely accurate... that's EXACTLY what would have happened.

Can you tell me the dates on which gov't budgets have been passed/signed in years past?

93henfan wrote:Latest drama for us today is contractors on travel. We have people all over the globe on our contract. The contractor just sent us a list of projects that will expend all money if we allow the travel to run its course. We can't allow that to happen, so we will likely have to fly them home early, which will end up costing even more money in the long run.

Shutdowns are pretty damn expensive. We'll be paying double travel on some contracts. We're pissing off international people who we're canceling meetings with. The government contracting staff (including me) will be getting paid overtime this weekend.

Tea Party fail.

Of course, this is all a moot point if Harry and Johnny can kiss and make up by midnight.

And drama it is. This is not a Tea Party fail...this is the country spending too much money.

Shut the government down...and no retro pay...until our elected offcials understand that we have to stop spending so much damn money. I don't give a hoot that some overseas contractor is pissed...the defense department spends far too much money in the first place.

Trim the spending. Anyone who says spending doesn't need to be cut and who doesn't want THEIR spending cut DRAMATICALLY...is the FAIL.