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WASHINGTON – More evidence of consumers' weary state and the nation's deteriorating job market came Thursday with reports that people continuing to draw unemployment benefits climbed to a 26-year high, while retail sales and orders to U.S. factories sank.

The number of newly laid-off people signing up for unemployment benefits last week dropped by 21,000 to 509,000, the Labor Department reported. Even with the drop — which was better than the increase economists were forecasting — the level of jobless applications was still quite high and pointed to a deeply troubled employment climate.

The number of people continuing to draw unemployment benefits last week climbed to 4.09 million, a 26-year high.

AT&T, the Dallas-based telecommunications giant, announced it will slash 12,000 jobs — or about 4 percent of its work force — in response to all the economic troubles. Job reductions will take place this month and into next year.

Meanwhile, there are 4,705 jobs currently listed on careerbuilder.com within 30 miles of the greater Phoenix area.

AZGrizFan wrote:Meanwhile, there are 4,705 jobs currently listed on careerbuilder.com within 30 miles of the greater Phoenix area.

3954 of them:

AZGrizFan wrote:Meanwhile, there are 4,705 jobs currently listed on careerbuilder.com within 30 miles of the greater Phoenix area.

From my exerpience, a lot of the real jobs on that list will go to internal candidates or are eliminated due to the economy, prior to hiring.

Gil Dobie wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Meanwhile, there are 4,705 jobs currently listed on careerbuilder.com within 30 miles of the greater Phoenix area.

From my exerpience, a lot of the real jobs on that list will go to internal candidates or are eliminated due to the economy, prior to hiring.

And, lots of companies either require themselves or are required by the government to post externally, at least, even though they may hire internally. Why the government?

EEO.

Gil Dobie wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Meanwhile, there are 4,705 jobs currently listed on careerbuilder.com within 30 miles of the greater Phoenix area.

From my exerpience, a lot of the real jobs on that list will go to internal candidates or are eliminated due to the economy, prior to hiring.

And yet, damn near EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM pays more than unemploymet.

I got no sympathy for folks sittin' back, collecting unemployment, waiting for the "perfect" job to land in their lap.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
From my exerpience, a lot of the real jobs on that list will go to internal candidates or are eliminated due to the economy, prior to hiring.

And yet, damn near EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM pays more than unemploymet.

I got no sympathy for folks sittin' back, collecting unemployment, waiting for the "perfect" job to land in their lap.

Many people apply for these jobs and hundreds others and never hear anything back.
The best way to find a job is through networking.

link

Gil Dobie wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: And yet, damn near EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM pays more than unemploymet.

I got no sympathy for folks sittin' back, collecting unemployment, waiting for the "perfect" job to land in their lap.

Many people apply for these jobs and hundreds others and never hear anything back.
The best way to find a job is through networking.

link

Gil,

There are jobs that go awanting that pay 15-18 an hour. You ain't gettin rich, but it's more than unemployment. The problem is, most White Americans think they're "above" those jobs.

What type of jobs are those, AZ?

dbackjon wrote:What type of jobs are those, AZ?

I was thinking the same thing.

dbackjon wrote:What type of jobs are those, AZ?

Yours.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote: Many people apply for these jobs and hundreds others and never hear anything back.
The best way to find a job is through networking.

link

Gil,

There are jobs that go awanting that pay 15-18 an hour. You ain't gettin rich, but it's more than unemployment. The problem is, most White Americans think they're "above" those jobs.

Bullshit

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Gil,

There are jobs that go awanting that pay 15-18 an hour. You ain't gettin rich, but it's more than unemployment. The problem is, most White Americans think they're "above" those jobs.

Bullshit

You're one of them "Whiteys that won't do 'em, aren't ya?

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote: Bullshit

You're one of them "Whiteys that won't do 'em, aren't ya?

Just find your claim a bit suspicious.

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What type of jobs are those, AZ?

Yours.

I make a hell of a lot more than $15/hour...


So Mr. Z - what jobs are you talking about?

Tom,
You can't deliver pizzas while looking the $70G job for which you are qualified, you want and you need to support your family. Put yourself in those shoes. I don't think you'd be an administrative assistant for $40K, and take time away from looking for that $200G bank prez job you should have.

You're being way too simplistic here, bud.

My brother got hired by AT&T at the beginning of the year but quit because he hated the job by the summer. He was worried that he made the wrong choice because it took him until the fall to find a new job but now all the people he was hired with are getting laid off. Looks like he made the right choice.

Cap'n Cat wrote:Tom,
You can't deliver pizzas while looking the $70G job for which you are qualified, you want and you need to support your family. Put yourself in those shoes. I don't think you'd be an administrative assistant for $40K, and take time away from looking for that $200G bank prez job you should have.

You're being way too simplistic here, bud.

If I lost my job tomorrow, I give EVERYTHING back except a car, pack whatever I've got left that isn't repossessable, and move back to Montana. I'll live on my $25k and my wife's $25k jobs.. My life would get LOT simpler.

Come to think of it....that doesn't sound half bad even if I DON'T lose my job....

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Gil,

There are jobs that go awanting that pay 15-18 an hour. You ain't gettin rich, but it's more than unemployment. The problem is, most White Americans think they're "above" those jobs.

Bullshit

All ya gotta do is pick up the paper, D.

AZGrizFan wrote:All ya gotta do is pick up the paper, D.

There's over 500 people applying for many of these internet and newspaper jobs. A little better odds than winning the lottery. Many resume's are just scanned for keywords.

Gil Dobie wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:All ya gotta do is pick up the paper, D.

There's over 500 people applying for many of these internet and newspaper jobs. A little better odds than winning the lottery. Many resume's are just scanned for keywords.

I understand that, Gil...but the point is that there's lots of people who'd RATHER collect unemployment as their god-given RIGHT than go out and earn an honest days wage for an honest day's work.

Lots of work right now as collectors,repo men, etc.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote: There's over 500 people applying for many of these internet and newspaper jobs. A little better odds than winning the lottery. Many resume's are just scanned for keywords.

I understand that, Gil...but the point is that there's lots of people who'd RATHER collect unemployment as their god-given RIGHT than go out and earn an honest days wage for an honest day's work.

Lots of work right now as collectors,repo men, etc.

Man, you're diggin' a big hole with them generalizations, my Grand Canyon State brother. Sure, there's "lots" in numbers, but the percentage is lower, I'd wager. For a Reaganite Conk, you seem to have little faith in your own people.





And, re your above reply about moving back to Montana, that's good for you, but don't extrapolate and project on everyone else. Frankly, I don't think you'd do that, anyway.

Cap'n Cat wrote: And, re your above reply about moving back to Montana, that's good for you, but don't extrapolate and project on everyone else. Frankly, I don't think you'd do that, anyway.

Fcuk that. I'm contemplating doing it right NOW.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote: And, re your above reply about moving back to Montana, that's good for you, but don't extrapolate and project on everyone else. Frankly, I don't think you'd do that, anyway.

Fcuk that. I'm contemplating doing it right NOW.

Well, best of luck to you and the Z gang. Sheeit, can I move in with you? I'll work at Subway and steal food for us and the family.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Fcuk that. I'm contemplating doing it right NOW.

Well, best of luck to you and the Z gang. Sheeit, can I move in with you? I'll work at Subway and steal food for us and the family.

See! THAT'S the kind of "out of the box" thinking I'm lookin' for in a roomie! One works at Subway, one works at a liquor store, one works at a pizza place, one works at an adult shop....we're set!