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CID1990 wrote:Better Mexicans.

SuperHornet wrote:I'm not sure what to think about this. I'm still looking, and I love the Cowboys, not to mention that my favorite coach is the OC at North TX, but I'm not sure I could deal with TX humidity (sorry, CatMom), much less finance the move. A friend is moving her family to TX so her husband can take one of their many available jobs. But I just can't see myself doing that. Too many friends here to move to where I know practically no-one.

SuperHornet wrote:Uh, you haven't seen the Dallas Diamonds. They were in the IWFL playoffs until they ran into the Sirens, then took their ball and went to the WFA.

CID1990 wrote:Better Mexicans.

kalm wrote:It's a race to the bottom and Texas is winning. Good for them.

kalm wrote:It's a race to the bottom and Texas is winning. Good for them.

travelinman67 wrote:California is in a dire position. Gov Brown has not disappointed. He's handing out sweetheart deals to the unions; protecting their blackhole pensions. Chasing nickle-dime waste while the state's 30 billion deficit continues to grow.

I had dinner the other night with an old friend who is a VERY high level accountant for the State: Has access to budget/cash flow reports only made available to a handful of high level officials. Their face went pale as they described the seriousness of CA's financial position and projections. Bottomline, unless CA pulls a rabbit out of the hat in the next 3 months, CA's credit rating will take another huge hit, and coulld possibly be facing insolvency. This isn't political rhetoric or fear mongering...the situation is real and potentially historic.

The causes are simple: California's governments, at all levels, has spent the last 30 years legislatively targeting businesses and the middle class to fund politician's social engineering schemes. Rather than "regulating", CA's govt attempts to generate revenue by bureaucratically crafting rules to "trip up" businesses and taxpayers, thereby generating additional "taxes" via fees and draconian penalties. It is indescribably pervasive. From parking to code enforcement to environmental violations to the more mundane reporting requirements imposed on every Californian. Craft a law, then cast the revenue net into the sea of citizens and haul in every penny left. Those who cannot afford become debtors, wards subservient to govt. control.

This is real. This is why California jobs are vanishing. This is why more than half of California's residents DO NOT WORK.

So long as the Kalms, Maojeffs and similar know-nothings continue to spew their ignorance, soaked up by uneducated entitlement flotsam who unfortunately vote in entitlement enablers like Gov Brown, California will continue down the steep slope of self destruction.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Buffeted by high taxes, strict regulations and uncertain state budgets, a growing number of California companies are seeking friendlier business environments outside of the Golden State.

And governors around the country, smelling blood in the water, have stepped up their courtship of California companies. Officials in states like Florida, Texas, Arizona and Utah are telling California firms how business-friendly they are in comparison.

Companies are "disinvesting" in California at a rate five times greater than just two years ago, said Joseph Vranich, a business relocation expert based in Irvine. This includes leaving altogether, establishing divisions elsewhere or opting not to set up shop in California.

"There is a feeling that the state is not stable," Vranich said. "Sacramento can't get its act together...and that includes the governor, legislators and regulatory agencies that are running wild."

The state has been ranked by Chief Executive magazine as the worst place to do business for seven years.

"California, once a business friendly state, continues to conduct a war on its own economy," the magazine wrote.

That is about to change, at least if Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom has anything to say about it. Newsom is developing a plan to address the state's economic Achilles heels, and build on its strengths. It will be unveiled at the end of July.

"California has got to get its act together when it comes to economic development and job creation," he said.

While not all companies investing elsewhere are doing so for economic reasons, some are shopping around for lower costs, lighter regulations, stable leadership and government assistance and incentives.

The most popular places to go? Texas, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, Virginia and North Carolina, said Vranich. All rank in the Top 13 places to do business, according to Chief Executive.

No budget, no pay for California lawmakers

After 15 years in Monterey Country, Calif., Feel Golf relocated its headquarters to Florida earlier this year after it acquired Pro Line Sports, which was based in the Sunshine State.

"The whole state is a bureaucratic Santa Claus," said Lee Miller, chief executive of the golf equipment company, of his former home. "There's a very high cost of doing business."

In Florida, he found a better work pool, lower operating costs and no personal income taxes.

"Overall, it's just a better environment," he said.

PayPal opened a new customer services and operations center in Chandler, Ariz., in February, bringing 2,000 jobs to the area. The San Jose, Calif.-based tech firm, along with its parent eBay, also added 1,000 jobs in Austin, Texas, and expanded operations in Utah.

"They have business-friendly environments," said Kathy Chui, a spokeswoman for eBay.

Other states, which are revving up their job creation efforts in the weak economy, are making sure California firms know the advantages to doing businesses with them.

Utah, for instance, touts its stable government, balanced budget and AAA debt rating, said Todd Brightwell, vice president at the state's Economic Development Corp.

"We promote predictability," said Brightwell, whose agency features an online comparison between the states in terms of taxes, real estate costs, utility expenses, cost of living and other metrics.

Over the past 18 months, the state become much more proactive in courting California firms. It now visits there regularly to reach out to target companies. The strategy has been successful. Adobe has expanded operations in Utah, as has Electronic Arts.

California companies are also reaching out to other states. Sandra Watson, chief operating officer of the Arizona Commerce Authority, said she's seeing a growing number of California firms looking to expand outside the state.

The economic downturn has forced companies to find ways to reduce their costs, she said. Arizona is trying to capitalize on that by promoting its lower workers compensation and unemployment insurance taxes, as well as its aggressive incentive packages.

"There's a lot of competition out there and companies are re-evaluating their strategies," she said.

biobengal wrote:That's the problem with state's rights..... or even states within a nation; some prefer to regulate like Columbia and some want to regulate like Sweden. Ultimately, all states will race to the bottom and end up looking like China.

citdog wrote:

biobengal wrote:That's the problem with state's rights..... or even states within a nation; some prefer to regulate like Columbia and some want to regulate like Sweden. Ultimately, all states will race to the bottom and end up looking like China.

the only problem with State Powers is that more States don't fight for them and look to washington city to be their daddy.

biobengal wrote:That's the problem with state's rights..... or even states within a nation; some prefer to regulate like Columbia and some want to regulate like Sweden. Ultimately, all states will race to the bottom and end up looking like China.

blueballs wrote:Good weather, low cost of living, no state income tax, right to work laws.... check, check, check, and check.

It's been a winning formula for us here in Florida too.

D1B wrote:

blueballs wrote:Good weather, low cost of living, no state income tax, right to work laws.... check, check, check, and check.

It's been a winning formula for us here in Florida too.

California is fighting the good fight and at least trying to protect its natural resources.

Fuck economic growth. We don't need it.