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OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:18 am
by bluehenbillk
Because it looks like it's coming, and coming soon.......

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:21 am
by Ivytalk
Make mine mint chocolate chip and pistachio.

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:35 am
by BDKJMU
bluehenbillk wrote:Because it looks like it's coming, and coming soon.......
Yep. This came out Monday..

"U.S. Factory Activity Falls to Lowest Level in 2 Years

U.S. manufacturing grew at its slowest pace in two years in July as new orders contracted, a troubling development for the faltering economy.
The Institute for Supply Management said on Monday its index of national factory activity fell to 50.9, the lowest level since July 2009, from 55.3 in June.
Economists had expected a reading of 54.9. A reading below 50 indicates contraction in manufacturing.

The economy almost ground to a halt in the first half of the year, government data showed on Friday, with output rising at a tepid a 1.3 percent annual pace in the second quarter after advancing just 0.4 percent in the prior period.
The ISM report suggested the much anticipated bounce back in growth in the second quarter would probably be feeble.
``These are the types of numbers that are consistent with what we saw with the GDP numbers,'' said Keith Hembre, chief economist at Nuveen Asset Management in Minneapolis.
``Absent a governmental shock, we would dredge forward with this stagnant economic performance. We'll be mired in this 1 to 2 percent (growth) environment we have been in.......''

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011 ... z1U4gMvWBU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:38 am
by BDKJMU
Dow currently down 275 to 11,621 as of 11:39 AM EST, headed for 9 down day of the last 10. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
http://www.dowjones.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:42 am
by Ivytalk
BDKJMU wrote:Dow currently down 275 to 11,621 as of 11:39 AM EST, headed for 9 down day of the last 10. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
http://www.dowjones.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A direct and proximate result of those minuscule growth numbers. :|

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:45 am
by bluehenbillk
BDKJMU wrote:Dow currently down 275 to 11,621 as of 11:39 AM EST, headed for 9 down day of the last 10. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
http://www.dowjones.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yep, that was exactly what I was looking at, wonder how bad the market will end today....

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:52 am
by BDKJMU
Ivytalk wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Dow currently down 275 to 11,621 as of 11:39 AM EST, headed for 9 down day of the last 10. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
http://www.dowjones.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A direct and proximate result of those minuscule growth numbers. :|
Now down 358, over 3% just today. My Roth and brokerage fund taking a beating.... :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:17 am
by 89Hen
At least I'll be busy with refis as rates drop. 8-)

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:19 am
by OSBF
another good oportunity to buy into the market

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:21 am
by danefan
OSBF wrote:another good oportunity to buy into the market
:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Prepare your money to make some babies!!!!!

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:28 am
by CitadelGrad
OSBF wrote:another good oportunity to buy into the market
Is that the Mensan consensus?

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:39 am
by OSBF
CitadelGrad wrote:
OSBF wrote:another good oportunity to buy into the market
Is that the Mensan consensus?
no, just a time proven sound investment strategy

and how i'm going to be able to retire at 54 with 500K in a 401 while never making more than 50K/yr

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:51 am
by OSBF
danefan wrote:
OSBF wrote:another good oportunity to buy into the market
:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Prepare your money to make some babies!!!!!
the share price of my 401 fund is down about 50 cents

good price point to put a little more in the market

if the share price keeps dropping, i'll buy more shares, it's a solid investment at this price level

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:54 am
by blueballs
89Hen wrote:At least I'll be busy with refis as rates drop. 8-)
Assuming they have jobs and equity....

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:55 am
by blueballs
It is all Bush's fault...

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:57 am
by GannonFan
OSBF wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Is that the Mensan consensus?
no, just a time proven sound investment strategy

and how i'm going to be able to retire at 54 with 500K in a 401 while never making more than 50K/yr
Is $500k in a 401k at retirement really something to trumpet? Even by your earning history, that's like 10 years worth of salary. Are you planning on a short retirement?? :?

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:58 am
by AZGrizFan
GannonFan wrote:
OSBF wrote:
no, just a time proven sound investment strategy

and how i'm going to be able to retire at 54 with 500K in a 401 while never making more than 50K/yr
Is $500k in a 401k at retirement really something to trumpet? Even by your earning history, that's like 10 years worth of salary. Are you planning on a short retirement?? :?
And apparently he thinks he's going to collect social security at 54 too...

might wanna read the fine print there, Mensa man. :coffee:

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:59 am
by DSUrocks07
Wholesale gas is down almost $0.20 today, Oil down a little over $5

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:02 am
by bluehenbillk
GannonFan wrote:
OSBF wrote:
no, just a time proven sound investment strategy

and how i'm going to be able to retire at 54 with 500K in a 401 while never making more than 50K/yr
Is $500k in a 401k at retirement really something to trumpet? Even by your earning history, that's like 10 years worth of salary. Are you planning on a short retirement?? :?
I hope you're pretty close to 500K now, because it looks like 401k's are about to get rocked again...you better play with the expected rate of return percentages between now and when you turn 54 to see where your total could come in....

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:27 am
by 93henfan
I'm fortunate that I moved my TSP from the L2040 (high risk equities) to the G fund (no risk) a couple of weeks ago.

Of course, if our very government itself were to collapse, the "no risk" would be a bit of a misnomer. :o

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:31 am
by 89Hen
DSUrocks07 wrote:Oil down a little over $5
Would be nice to get gas prices back down a little. :?

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:33 am
by 93henfan
89Hen wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote:Oil down a little over $5
Would be nice to get gas prices back down a little. :?
Don't you just love how the oil companies adjust gas prices instantly on bad news (for us) and verrrrrrry sloooooowwllllyyyy on good news?

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:00 pm
by GannonFan
93henfan wrote:
89Hen wrote: Would be nice to get gas prices back down a little. :?
Don't you just love how the oil companies adjust gas prices instantly on bad news (for us) and verrrrrrry sloooooowwllllyyyy on good news?
Gee, one would get the idea that they are in business to make money. Those bastards.

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:06 pm
by OSBF
93henfan wrote:I'm fortunate that I moved my TSP from the L2040 (high risk equities) to the G fund (no risk) a couple of weeks ago.

Of course, if our very government itself were to collapse, the "no risk" would be a bit of a misnomer. :o
All of the "L" funds are balanced portfolios, not exceptionally high or low risk.

You moved your money from a 16% return fund to a 2% return fund.

Go the other way, when the market turns down is the time to dump all you can into the highest risk/reward options you have.

I'm in the "S" and "I" funds right now. Buying as many shares as I can afford to.

Re: OK, who ordered the double dip??

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:07 pm
by 93henfan
OSBF wrote:
93henfan wrote:I'm fortunate that I moved my TSP from the L2040 (high risk equities) to the G fund (no risk) a couple of weeks ago.

Of course, if our very government itself were to collapse, the "no risk" would be a bit of a misnomer. :o
All of the "L" funds are balanced portfolios, not exceptionally high or low risk.

You moved your money from a 16% return fund to a 2% return fund.

Go the other way, when the market turns down is the time to dump all you can into the highest risk/reward options you have.

I'm in the "S" and "I" funds right now. Buying as many shares as I can afford to.
I'm glad you're not my financial advisor! :lol:

I just skipped out on 10% plus in losses (and counting) from two weeks ago!

I agree, buy low. I think it will go lower.