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Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:14 pm
by BDKJMU
Well, they are calling it a "Call Back" as opposed to a recall.

AP Source: GM to call back 8,000 Chevy Volts

"DETROIT (AP) — General Motors will strengthen the structure around the batteries in its Volt electric cars to keep them safe during crashes, a person briefed on the matter said Thursday.
GM will ask Volt owners to return the cars to dealers for structural modifications, said the person, who did not want to be identified because GM executives plan to announce the repairs later Thursday.
The fixes are similar to a recall and involve about 8,000 Volts sold in the U.S. in the past two years. GM is making the repairs after three Volt batteries caught fire following crash tests done by federal safety regulators. The fires occurred seven days to three weeks after tests and have been blamed on a coolant leak that caused an electrical short.........."
http://news.yahoo.com/ap-source-gm-call ... 59632.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The real BS is Govt Motors pays people $7500 taxpayer dollars to buy one of these pieces of junk, and they still can't meet their sales goal.

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:04 pm
by Bronco
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The official hope/change pace car

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Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:00 am
by Ivytalk
Poster child for government interference with the free market. Too expensive, a genuine safety risk, and nobody wants them. :coffee:

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:40 am
by HI54UNI
Isn't that about every one that they've sold? :roll:

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:31 am
by 89Hen
Ivytalk wrote:Too expensive, a genuine safety risk, and nobody wants them. :coffee:
Sounds like our Congress. :?

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:37 pm
by BDKJMU
Ivytalk wrote:Poster child for government interference with the free market. Too expensive, a genuine safety risk, and nobody wants them. :coffee:
Yep.

"Chevy Volt Costing Taxpayers Up to $250K Per Vehicle
Analyst: 'This might be the most government-supported car since the Trabant'

Dec. 21, 2011

Each Chevy Volt sold thus far may have as much as $250,000 in state and federal dollars in incentives behind it – a total of $3 billion altogether, according to an analysis by James Hohman, assistant director of fiscal policy at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.

Hohman looked at total state and federal assistance offered for the development and production of the Chevy Volt, General Motors’ plug-in hybrid electric vehicle. His analysis included 18 government deals that included loans, rebates, grants and tax credits. The amount of government assistance does not include the fact that General Motors is currently 26 percent owned by the federal government.

The Volt subsidies flow through multiple companies involved in production. The analysis includes adding up the amount of government subsidies via tax credits and direct funding for not only General Motors, but other companies supplying parts for the vehicle.........................................article continues......."
http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:00 am
by Ivytalk
houndawg wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Spam. True Harvard people eschew payday loans. :coffee:
and they would probably use the word "encase" correctly... :coffee:
Preach it, dawg. :coffee:

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:05 pm
by Bronco
It sure seems like whenever the taxpayers give these companies money that a large amount finds its way back into the reelect the president campaign

We need a serious investigation
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Here's another

Electric-Car Firm That Received Biden Visit and $118M in Stimulus Funds Files for Bankruptcy
CNS News ^ | 1/26/2012 | Fred Lucas

(CNSNews.com) - Ener1--a company that manufactures batteries for electric cars, and that received $118.5 million in federal stimulus money, and that Vice President Joe Biden visited last year the day after President Obama’s State of the Union Address—announced today that it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

“With more research and incentives, we can break our dependence on oil with biofuels and become the first country to have a million electric vehicles on the road by 2015,” said Obama.

The next day, Biden visited the Ener1 plant in Greenfield, Ind.—which the White House said at the time had received a $118.5 million grant from the Department of Energy and was the type of investment the president was talking about in his State of the Union.

“Last night, President Obama set a goal of making the United States the first country in the world to put one million advanced technology vehicles on the road,” Levine wrote. “This goal is part of the President’s plan to rebuild our economy by investing in innovation to create the jobs and industries of the future.

At the Ener1 plant, Biden made a gaffe, mistakenly referring to Ener1—as Enron1.

“Well, ladies and gentlemen, here at Ener1, we’re going to harness electricity and bring it to the world like Edison did more than a century ago,” said Biden. “We're going to reshape the way Americans drive, the way Americans consume, the way Americans power their lives. And in turn, we're going to reshape America itself. We may not make battery power so cheap that only the rich can afford to drive their cars on imported oil, but—but--with Enron1 (sic) leading the way, we're certainly going to come pretty close.”

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:39 pm
by Col Hogan
Bronco wrote:It sure seems like whenever the taxpayers give these companies money that a large amount finds its way back into the reelect the president campaign

We need a serious investigation
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Here's another

Electric-Car Firm That Received Biden Visit and $118M in Stimulus Funds Files for Bankruptcy
CNS News ^ | 1/26/2012 | Fred Lucas

(CNSNews.com) - Ener1--a company that manufactures batteries for electric cars, and that received $118.5 million in federal stimulus money, and that Vice President Joe Biden visited last year the day after President Obama’s State of the Union Address—announced today that it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

“With more research and incentives, we can break our dependence on oil with biofuels and become the first country to have a million electric vehicles on the road by 2015,” said Obama.

The next day, Biden visited the Ener1 plant in Greenfield, Ind.—which the White House said at the time had received a $118.5 million grant from the Department of Energy and was the type of investment the president was talking about in his State of the Union.

“Last night, President Obama set a goal of making the United States the first country in the world to put one million advanced technology vehicles on the road,” Levine wrote. “This goal is part of the President’s plan to rebuild our economy by investing in innovation to create the jobs and industries of the future.

At the Ener1 plant, Biden made a gaffe, mistakenly referring to Ener1—as Enron1.

“Well, ladies and gentlemen, here at Ener1, we’re going to harness electricity and bring it to the world like Edison did more than a century ago,” said Biden. “We're going to reshape the way Americans drive, the way Americans consume, the way Americans power their lives. And in turn, we're going to reshape America itself. We may not make battery power so cheap that only the rich can afford to drive their cars on imported oil, but—but--with Enron1 (sic) leading the way, we're certainly going to come pretty close.”
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:09 pm
by Bronco

There Are at Least a Dozen Solyndras
As noted earlier, Solyndra is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the Obama Regime flushing
billions of our money down farcical environmentally correct boondoggles:

On September 7, the DOE announced its plan to guarantee 80 percent — or $275 million — of a $344 million private loan taken out by the firm SolarCity. The company installs rooftop solar systems that harvests electricity SolarCity then sells.

The guarantee means that if SolarCity’s project does not succeed, the DOE will use taxpayer money to pay back 80 percent of the company’s private loans

The current plan is for SolarCity to operate 160,000 systems on military bases around the country, and hire 750 workers over five years. It has been described as the “largest residential solar project in history.”

The Chairman of SolarCity, Elon Musk, is a major financial supporter of the president. On April 15 of this year, Musk donated $35,800 to the Obama Victory Fund. He also gave an additional $5,000 to the Obama campaign.
Like Solyndra officials White House visitor logs show Musk has visited the Administration at least four times since 2009.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/12/new-d ... z1jfPN6xiF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:13 pm
by Bronco
Little surprised to see CBS do a report on this


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Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:46 pm
by BDKJMU
Bronco wrote:It sure seems like whenever the taxpayers give these companies money that a large amount finds its way back into the reelect the president campaign

We need a serious investigation
-
Here's another

Electric-Car Firm That Received Biden Visit and $118M in Stimulus Funds Files for Bankruptcy
CNS News ^ | 1/26/2012 | Fred Lucas

(CNSNews.com) - Ener1--a company that manufactures batteries for electric cars, and that received $118.5 million in federal stimulus money, and that Vice President Joe Biden visited last year the day after President Obama’s State of the Union Address—announced today that it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

“With more research and incentives, we can break our dependence on oil with biofuels and become the first country to have a million electric vehicles on the road by 2015,” said Obama.

The next day, Biden visited the Ener1 plant in Greenfield, Ind.—which the White House said at the time had received a $118.5 million grant from the Department of Energy and was the type of investment the president was talking about in his State of the Union.

“Last night, President Obama set a goal of making the United States the first country in the world to put one million advanced technology vehicles on the road,” Levine wrote. “This goal is part of the President’s plan to rebuild our economy by investing in innovation to create the jobs and industries of the future.

At the Ener1 plant, Biden made a gaffe, mistakenly referring to Ener1—as Enron1.

“Well, ladies and gentlemen, here at Ener1, we’re going to harness electricity and bring it to the world like Edison did more than a century ago,” said Biden. “We're going to reshape the way Americans drive, the way Americans consume, the way Americans power their lives. And in turn, we're going to reshape America itself. We may not make battery power so cheap that only the rich can afford to drive their cars on imported oil, but—but--with Enron1 (sic) leading the way, we're certainly going to come pretty close.”
Yep, started a thread on this 2 days ago:
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Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:50 pm
by BDKJMU
GM temporarily halts production of Volt

General Motors has temporarily suspended production of its Volt electric car, the company announced Friday.

GM, which is based in Detroit, announced to employees at one of its facilities that it was halting production of the beleaguered electric car for five weeks and temporarily laying off 1,300 employees.

A GM spokesman told The Hill on Friday that production of the Volt would resume April 23.
"We needed to maintain proper inventory and make sure that we continued to meet market demand," GM spokesman Chris Lee said in a telephone interview.

Lee noted that sales of the Volt were higher in February than they were in January, and added that California recently decided to allow the electric car to qualify for High Occupancy Vehicle (HOV) lanes in the state.

"We see positive trends, but we needed to make this market adjustment," he said.

The Chevy Volt has come under criticism from Republicans in Congress because of reports of its batteries catching on fire during testing. President Obama gave the electric vehicle a vote of confidence in a speech to the United Auto Workers union this week, promising he would buy a Volt "five years from now, when I'm not president anymore."

But Republicans have argued that the Volt was being pushed by the Obama administration for political reasons instead of consumer demand.

“Is the commitment to the American public or is the commitment to clean energy, that we are going to get there any way we can?” Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.) asked in a hearing in the House in January about the Volt's reported battery fires.

“When the market is ready … it won’t have to be subsidized,” Kelly said.

Chevy has argued the debate about the Volt has become too political.

"We did not develop the Chevy Volt to be a political punching bag," General Motors CEO Daniel Akerson testified before Congress in the same January hearing. "We engineered the Volt to be a technological wonder."

Chevy has sought to give a boost to the public image of the Volt, releasing a commercial in January tying the Volt to the effort to reduce dependence on foreign oil.

"This isn’t just the car we wanted to build,” a narrator says in the commercial over footage of Volts being manufactured in Hamtramck, Mich. “This is the car America had to build.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation ... chevy-volt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:54 pm
by BDKJMU
Builds the most govt subsidized POS car in American history, then blames the reason people aren't buying it on the media. :roll:
http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/201 ... ducti.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:13 pm
by Cap'n Cat
You're gonna have some stinkers in automobiles, dorks, and this apparent stinker goes back to the Bush years, so it's his fault. :thumb: Obama the Great bailed out the auto industry not just for Volts. These things are two separate issues. At least our government is concerned enough to do something about it, right?


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Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:35 pm
by Bronco
Actually blames Rush
Relentless attacks on the Chevy Volt from Rush Limbaugh and Republican politicians have taken their toll, as General Motors has announced a five-week suspension in production of the range-extended electric car. Conservative enemies of clean energy and the Obama administration seized on isolated reports Volts with battery fires, calling the cars “Obama-mandated death traps.” Limbaugh even said GM was a “corporation that’s trying to kill its customers.”
Libs I see drive Subaru, Toyotas anything but GM

I blame the folks that don't walk the walk

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:38 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Bronco wrote:Actually blames Rush
Relentless attacks on the Chevy Volt from Rush Limbaugh and Republican politicians have taken their toll, as General Motors has announced a five-week suspension in production of the range-extended electric car. Conservative enemies of clean energy and the Obama administration seized on isolated reports Volts with battery fires, calling the cars “Obama-mandated death traps.” Limbaugh even said GM was a “corporation that’s trying to kill its customers.”
Libs I see drive Subaru, Toyotas anything but GM

I blame the folks that don't walk the walk

Key phrase highlighted above, Bronchitis.

I blame stereotypers.

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:52 pm
by Ivytalk
Cap'n Cat wrote:
Bronco wrote:Actually blames Rush



Libs I see drive Subaru, Toyotas anything but GM

I blame the folks that don't walk the walk

Key phrase highlighted above, Bronchitis.
I blame stereotypers.
how times have changed. In my youth, libs drove Volvos -- the older, the Donker! :lol:

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:10 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Ivytalk wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

Key phrase highlighted above, Bronchitis.
I blame stereotypers.
how times have changed. In my youth, libs drove Volvos -- the older, the Donker! :lol:

Your youth was 1949.


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Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:04 pm
by Ivytalk
Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: how times have changed. In my youth, libs drove Volvos -- the older, the Donker! :lol:

Your youth was 1949.
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Hey, my freshman-year government prof drove one of those! :lol:

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:29 pm
by SeattleGriz
Cap'n Cat wrote:You're gonna have some stinkers in automobiles, dorks, and this apparent stinker goes back to the Bush years, so it's his fault. :thumb: Obama the Great bailed out the auto industry not just for Volts. These things are two separate issues. At least our government is concerned enough to do something about it, right?


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Every other car company doesn't seem to have the issues that Chevy does in producing a hybrid.

Hell, look at the Nissan Leaf 100% electric and no issues like the Volt.

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:07 am
by BDKJMU
Chevy Volt pays for itself- in 27 years!

Savings come slowly for hybrid, electric car owners

If you're thinking about buying a fuel-efficient hybrid, electric or otherwise eco-friendly vehicle as a way to save money over time, do your homework — or be prepared to wait.

Buyers who choose Nissan's all-electric Leaf ($28,421) over its approximate gas-powered equivalent, Nissan's Versa ($18,640), will likely wait nearly 9 years until they break even, according to a new report by The New York Times that examines the cost of fuel efficiency.

For drivers of the Chevrolet Volt ($31,767), the wait is even longer— 26.6 years.

A few vehicles begin paying off relatively soon after leaving the dealership. Two hybrids— Toyota's Prius ($23,537) and Lincoln's MKZ ($33,887)— as well as Volkswagen's diesel-powered Jetta TDI ($25,242) all take less than two years before they start saving their owners money.

Check out this chart by the Times that breaks down the savings delay for many popular fuel-efficient models.
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The high price tag of many fuel-efficient vehicles — including the Nissan Leaf, which will soon be made in Smyrna, Tenn. — is one reason consumers have yet to embrace them with open arms.
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Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:16 am
by BDKJMU
".....Gas would have to approach $8 a gallon before many of the cars could be expected to pay off in the six years an average person owns a car....

........The data assumes an average of 15,000 miles driven a year and a gas price of just under $4 a gallon.

If gas cost $5 a gallon, the TrueCar data estimates that the payback period for a hybrid Ford Fusion over the conventional Fusion would be six and a half years, compared with eight and a half years at $4. At $6 a gallon, the hybrid Toyota Camry, Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima are likely to generate savings within four years. .........

......Early in March, Toyota said that it had sold more Prius C cars in its first three days on the market than Chevrolet sold plug-in Volts and Nissan sold battery-powered Leafs in all of February. The statistic highlights that even within the fuel-efficient car market, hybrids have a big leg up on electric cars, which are far more expensive.

According to TrueCar, a buyer who chose the Leaf instead of a Nissan Versa would need to drive it for almost nine years at today’s gas prices or six years at $5 a gallon before the fuel savings outweighed the nearly $10,000 difference in price.

The Volt, which cost nearly $40,000 before a $7,500 federal tax credit, could take up to 27 years to pay off versus a Chevrolet Cruze, assuming it was regularly driven farther than its battery-only range allows. The payback time could drop to about eight years if gas cost $5 a gallon and the driver remained exclusively on battery power.

The Lundberg Survey, which tracks fuel prices, said in March that gas prices would need to reach $12.50 a gallon for the Volt to make sense purely on financial terms. It said the Leaf would be competitive with gas at $8.53 a gallon....."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/05/busin ... wanted=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:17 am
by Cap'n Cat
Ivytalk wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

Key phrase highlighted above, Bronchitis.
I blame stereotypers.
how times have changed. In my youth, libs drove Volvos -- the older, the Donker! :lol:

This older Donk has driven nothing but Fords and American cars with very few issues. Why? Same reasons the Conk flag-wrapped crowd does.

Re: Govt Motors to recall 8,000 Chevy Volts

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:36 pm
by BDKJMU
According to Senator Turbin Durbin we must convert to hybrid cars or lose our life.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... _life.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What a :dunce: