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...Something Candidate Obama did, with great effect...

Problem is, once he's not a candidate, but President-elect...he has to back-pedal...

Obama has said no political appointees in an Obama-Biden administration will be permitted to work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years....yet, now he appoints a lobbyiest who will be directly controlling contracts related to his CURRENT employer...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/08/ ... index.html

I'm not slamming the guy he appointed...just saying, don't speak in absolutes...it can come back and bite you...

Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

Obama's transition office acknowledged that appointing a lobbyist did not, on the face of it, seem in line with the president-elect's ethics stance but that Lynn's qualifications and the recommendations that came from both Republicans and Democrats made him the top candidate.

"Because Mr. Lynn came so highly recommended from experts across the political spectrum, the president-elect felt it was critical that he fill this position," said Obama transition spokesman Tommy Vietor.

Vietor said Lynn and the transition team would create guidelines that would fit the ethics standards of the new administration.

dbackjon wrote: Vietor said Lynn and the transition team would create guidelines that would fit the ethics standards of the new administration.

Translation: Our ethics standards are only in place in so much as they are convenient. As soon as they AREN'T convenient, we'll ignore them.

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

We get it. You're bitter. Forget about it and do your part to save the country your political party so fukced up.

dbackjon wrote:Obama's transition office acknowledged that appointing a lobbyist did not, on the face of it, seem in line with the president-elect's ethics stance but that Lynn's qualifications and the recommendations that came from both Republicans and Democrats made him the top candidate.

"Because Mr. Lynn came so highly recommended from experts across the political spectrum, the president-elect felt it was critical that he fill this position," said Obama transition spokesman Tommy Vietor.

Vietor said Lynn and the transition team would create guidelines that would fit the ethics standards of the new administration.

In fewer words..."We know what we said, but we changed out mind in this case"

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

We get it. You're bitter. Forget about it and do your part to save the country your political party so fukced up.

Bitter? No....

Laughing my ASS off at all you fcking naive morons who actually BELIEVED what that snakeoil salesman was selling? Yes....absolutely.

And now, right on cue, you'll blindly follow him off the edge of a fcuking CLIFF rather than admit that he JUUUUUUUUST might not be the guy you actually were dumb enough to VOTE for.

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

...or not elected....whatever the case may be...

"You know, I think you may have noticed that Senator Obama's supporters have been saying some pretty nasty things about Western Pennsylvania lately. And you know, I couldn't agree with them more. I couldn't disagree with you. I couldn't agree with you more than the fact that Western Pennsylvania is the most patriotic, most god-loving, most, most patriotic part of America, and this is a great part of the country."

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."

"He's (for) health for the mother. You know, that's been stretched by the pro-abortion movement in America to mean almost anything. That's the extreme pro-abortion position, quote, 'health.'"

"We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. ... We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."

"[Sarah Palin] knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America. ... And, uh, she also happens to represent, be governor of a state that's right next to Russia."

"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―"

"Our economy, I think, is still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

"I told the Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere."

"I also know, if I might remind you, that she is commander of the Alaska National Guard. In fact, you may know that on Sept. 11 a large contingent of the Alaska Guard deployed to Iraq and her son happened to be one of them. So I think she understands our national security challenges."

"If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media."

Appaholic wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

...or not elected....whatever the case may be...

"You know, I think you may have noticed that Senator Obama's supporters have been saying some pretty nasty things about Western Pennsylvania lately. And you know, I couldn't agree with them more. I couldn't disagree with you. I couldn't agree with you more than the fact that Western Pennsylvania is the most patriotic, most god-loving, most, most patriotic part of America, and this is a great part of the country."

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."

"He's (for) health for the mother. You know, that's been stretched by the pro-abortion movement in America to mean almost anything. That's the extreme pro-abortion position, quote, 'health.'"

"We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. ... We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."

"[Sarah Palin] knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America. ... And, uh, she also happens to represent, be governor of a state that's right next to Russia."

"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―"

"Our economy, I think, is still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

"I told the Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere."

"I also know, if I might remind you, that she is commander of the Alaska National Guard. In fact, you may know that on Sept. 11 a large contingent of the Alaska Guard deployed to Iraq and her son happened to be one of them. So I think she understands our national security challenges."

"If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media."

While some of those may be dumb, they're not untrue. Isn't, in fact, Russia just off Alaska's border? And our economy, while in a depression, is nowhere NEAR as bad as it was in '81 when Reagan took over. Was she NOT the commander of the ANG? Did her son NOT get deployed to Iraq? Is not the MSM in a constant battle to see who can blow Obama next? OK....that has changed somewhat SINCE the election, but certainly true DURING the election process...

I could go on and on....

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

Ditto. That's what's so laughable about the "Yes We Can Clan". Seeing Jesse J., Oprah, and the rest of the "hold their breath" crowd, crying in joy...expecting their Messiah to do what no other politician has been able to do...

...then he gets elected. Reality sets in. He gets invited to the Bilderberg Conference, and slowly the resolve vanishes, with Clintonites abound, lobbyists, party-machine kingmakers calling the shots...

I said it even before the primaries were over. Even if Obama won, there would be no substantive change in America...because money/special interests rule over both parties.

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

Spoken like a man who has run for office.

JoltinJoe wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

Spoken like a man who has run for office.

travelinman67 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

Ditto. That's what's so laughable about the "Yes We Can Clan". Seeing Jesse J., Oprah, and the rest of the "hold their breath" crowd, crying in joy...expecting their Messiah to do what no other politician has been able to do...

...then he gets elected. Reality sets in. He gets invited to the Bilderberg Conference, and slowly the resolve vanishes, with Clintonites abound, lobbyists, party-machine kingmakers calling the shots...

I said it even before the primaries were over. Even if Obama won, there would be no substantive change in America...because money/special interests rule over both parties.

Find this hard to believe. Just about everything you said before the primarjies turned out be flat out wrong.

Shut your big fat mouth and give the guy a chance, he's got a helluva a mess to clean up thanks to idiots like you and the morons you put in office, twice.

You are irrelevant now.

JoltinJoe wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Things said on the campaign trail have NO bearing to reality. You say whatever you need to to get elected. Period.

Spoken like a man who has run for office.

Ouch. Hey, I had to lose a vote when some religous wack job called me regarding teaching creationism in the classroom....I told the truth, told everyone who asked me, what my views were. Maybe (much like McCain), that's why I WASN'T elected.

AZGrizFan wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote: Spoken like a man who has run for office.

Ouch. Hey, I had to lose a vote when some religous wack job called me regarding teaching creationism in the classroom....I told the truth, told everyone who asked me, what my views were. Maybe (much like McCain), that's why I WASN'T elected.

When you tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said...good for you...

Col Hogan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Ouch. Hey, I had to lose a vote when some religous wack job called me regarding teaching creationism in the classroom....I told the truth, told everyone who asked me, what my views were. Maybe (much like McCain), that's why I WASN'T elected.

When you tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said...good for you...

I am NOT a good liar. Ask my wife.

I find it easier to sleep at night as well...