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Letter from the President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas in their 2011 Annual Report:
If you are running one of the “too-big- to-fail” (TBTF) banks—alternatively known as “systemically important
financial institutions,” or SIFIs—I doubt you are going to like what you read in this annual report essay written by Harvey Rosenblum, the head of the Dallas Fed’s Research Department, a highly regarded Federal Reserve veteran of 40 years and the former president of the National Association for Business Economics. Memory fades with the passage of time. Yet it is important to recall that it was in recognition of the precarious position in which the TBTF banks and SIFIs placed our economy in 2008 that the U.S. Congress passed into law the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd–Frank). While the act established a number of new macroprudential features to help promote financial stability, its overarching purpose, as stated unambiguously in its preamble, is ending TBTF.

However, Dodd–Frank does not eradi- cate TBTF. Indeed, it is our view at the Dallas Fed that it may actually perpetuate an already dangerous trend of increasing banking industry concentration. More than half of banking industry assets are on the books of just five institutions. The top 10 banks now account for 61 percent of commercial banking assets, substantially more than the 26 percent of only 20 years ago; their combined assets equate to half of our nation’s GDP. Further, as Rosenblum argues in his essay, there are signs that Dodd– Frank’s complexity and opaqueness may even be working against the economic recovery.

In addition to remaining a lingering threat to financial stability, these mega banks significantly hamper the Federal Reserve’s ability to properly conduct monetary policy. They were a primary culprit in magnifying the financial crisis, and their presence continues to play an impor- tant role in prolonging our economic malaise.

There are good reasons why this recovery has remained frustratingly slow compared with periods following previous recessions, and I believe it has very little to do with the Federal Reserve. Since the onset of the Great Recession, we have undertaken a number of initiatives— some orthodox, some not—to revive and kick-start the economy. As I like to say, we’ve filled the tank with plenty of cheap, high-octane gasoline. But as any mechanic can tell you, it takes more than just gas to propel a car.

The lackluster nature of the recovery is certainly the byproduct of the debt-infused boom that preceded the Great Recession, as is the excessive uncertainty surrounding the actions—or rather, inactions—of our fiscal authorities in Washington. But to borrow an analogy Rosenblum crafted, if there is sludge on the crankshaft—in the form of losses and bad loans on the balance sheets of the TBTF banks—then the bank-capital linkage that greases the engine of monetary policy does not function properly to drive the real economy. No amount of liquidity provided by the Federal Reserve can change this.

Perhaps the most damaging effect of prop- agating TBTF is the erosion of faith in American
capitalism
. Diverse groups ranging from the Occupy Wall Street movement to the Tea Party argue that government-assisted bailouts of reckless financial institutions are sociologically and politically offensive. From an economic perspective, these bailouts are certainly harmful to the efficient workings of the market.

I encourage you to read the following essay. The TBTF institutions that amplified and prolonged the recent financial crisis remain a hindrance to full economic recovery and to the very ideal of American capitalism. It is imperative that we end TBTF. In my view, downsizing the behemoths over time into institutions that can be prudently managed and regulated across borders is the appropriate policy response. Only then can the process of “creative destruction”— which America has perfected and practiced with such effectiveness that it led our country to unprecedented economic achievement— work its wonders in the financial sector, just as it does elsewhere in our economy. Only then will we have a financial system fit and proper for serving as the lubricant for an economy as dynamic as that of the United States.

Richard W. Fisher
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I couldn't agree more. But why stop at banks? SAme goes for insurance companies, auto makers, etc.
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While we're ending TBTF -- a goal with which I likewise agree -- why stop there? Let's stop that career operative TTBF as well, before he does any more damage. :nod:
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Ivytalk wrote:While we're ending TBTF -- a goal with which I likewise agree -- why stop there? Let's stop that career operative TTBF as well, before he does any more damage. :nod:
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AZGrizFan wrote:I couldn't agree more. But why stop at banks? SAme goes for insurance companies, auto makers, etc.
True. And they're big enough to pretty much write their own legislation giving them tax breaks (big oil) or 40 million mandatory new customers (obamacare).

The ones who get screwed are the start ups and small businesses. But how do you unravel it?
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:I couldn't agree more. But why stop at banks? SAme goes for insurance companies, auto makers, etc.
True. And they're big enough to pretty much write their own legislation giving them tax breaks (big oil) or 40 million mandatory new customers (obamacare).

The ones who get screwed are the start ups and small businesses. But how do you unravel it?
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Did anyone else think this thread was going to be about our resident Political Campaigner, TTBF?

I just read the title wrong, I am more of a picture person.
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grizzaholic wrote:Did anyone else think this thread was going to be about our resident Political Campaigner, TTBF?

I just read the title wrong, I am more of a picture person.
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Romney could make up for his support of the 08' bailouts by saying "Read my lips, no more bailouts".
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AZGrizFan wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:Did anyone else think this thread was going to be about our resident Political Campaigner, TTBF?

I just read the title wrong, I am more of a picture person.
And we thank God for that. :kisswink:
Here you go AZ.

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grizzaholic wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
And we thank God for that. :kisswink:
Here you go AZ.

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huh?
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."

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grizzaholic wrote:huh?
Nevermind...I lost my train of thought.
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kalm wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:huh?
Nevermind...I lost my train of thought.
Seen Bandl lately?
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grizzaholic wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nevermind...I lost my train of thought.
Seen Bandl lately?
Yes! He's been reduced to a drive by poster and shadow of his former self. :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Seen Bandl lately?
Yes! He's been reduced to a drive by poster and shadow of his former self. :ohno:
That is terrible. To see such a great poster fall so far...and fast! Andy must be decimated.
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grizzaholic wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yes! He's been reduced to a drive by poster and shadow of his former self. :ohno:
That is terrible. To see such a great poster fall so far...and fast! Andy must be decimated.
Yes, bandl must truly be decimated.
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kalm wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
That is terrible. To see such a great poster fall so far...and fast! Andy must be decimated.
Yes, bandl must truly be decimated.
oops. You got it right. Andy and weight loss don't go hand in hand.
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grizzaholic wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yes, bandl must truly be decimated.
oops. You got it right. Andy and weight loss don't go hand in hand.
Andy will never get over macho grande.
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kalm wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
oops. You got it right. Andy and weight loss don't go hand in hand.
Andy will never get over macho grande.
I don't speak Spanish. If only that SDHornet fella would be around for translations.
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grizzaholic wrote:
kalm wrote:
Andy will never get over macho grande.
I don't speak Spanish. If only that SDHornet fella would be around for translations.
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Yeah... I have to admit - I misread this too... :lol:
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Ivytalk wrote:While we're ending TBTF -- a goal with which I likewise agree -- why stop there? Let's stop that career operative TTBF as well, before he does any more damage. :nod:
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AZGrizFan wrote:I couldn't agree more. But why stop at banks? SAme goes for insurance companies, auto makers, etc.
Which is why I only looked at 2 manufactures when I was shopping for a new truck last year. Ford and Toyota.
I bought the Ford.

I also changed to a local bank.

Unfortunately in our litigious society, the insurance industry has us by the balls.
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Any of you Conk clowns ever think that capitalism MIGHT JUST SUCK ?????

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