Obama the Snake

[dbackjon]

Obama Once Backed Full Gay Marriage

Chicago, IL (OPENPRESS) January 13, 2009 -- During his run for Illinois state Senate in 1996, Barack Obama stated his unequivocal support for gay marriage, according to an exclusive story in the Jan. 14, 2009 Windy City Times newspaper.

President-elect Obama's answer to a 1996 Outlines newspaper question on marriage was: "I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages." There was no use of the phrase "civil unions". [Outlines purchased Windy City Times in 2000 and merged companies.]

This answer is among those included in this week's Windy City Times feature on Obama's evolving position on gay marriage. Windy City Times also includes his answers to the candidate questionnaire of IMPACT, at one time a gay political action committee in Illinois. In that survey he also stated his support of same-sex marriage.

During the final weeks of the presidential campaign last fall, several media outlets contacted Windy City Times because of an old internet story from the 1996 Illinois state Senate race. In that campaign, Outlines newspaper reported that 13th District candidate Barack Obama supported gay marriage. Reporters wanted to know what exactly Obama had said.

Outlines summarized the results in that 1996 article by Trudy Ring, but did not list exact answers to questions. In that article Outlines did note that Obama was a supporter of same-sex marriage and that article was never challenged or corrected by Obama. Just recently, the original Outlines and IMPACT surveys were found in the newspaper's archives.

More recently, as Obama has run for higher office, from U.S. senate to president, he has further shaped his views on marriage, and now he does not back same-sex marriage, but favors civil unions.

The Jan. 14 Windy City Times has articles by Publisher and Executive Editor Tracy Baim looking at Obama's marriage record, including from a 2004 interview she conducted with the U.S. senate hopeful, and also an article by Timothy Stewart-Winter, a doctoral candidate at the University of Chicago, who is writing his dissertation on lesbian and gay politics in Chicago. Stewart-Winter provides a look at the context of Obama's race in 1996 against incumbent Alice Palmer.

http://www.theopenpress.com/index.php?a=press&id=43345

[AZGrizFan]

Apparently he had bad intel.

[dbackjon]

Apparently...

For Obama and the National Democratic Party to make amends I need to see:

1) GLBT added to Federal ENDA
2) Repeal of DADT
3) Repeal of DOMA




Then we will talk.

[AZGrizFan]

Apparently...

For Obama and the National Democratic Party to make amends I need to see:

1) GLBT added to Federal ENDA
2) Repeal of DADT
3) Repeal of DOMA




Then we will talk.

But he's YOUR president, Jon.

Don't you find it ironic that most of the big, bad, evil conks on this board are more liberal on this topic than a socialist president?

[dbackjon]

Most of the conks, yes - but you are not running for office

At least we Obama, we have a SHOT at these things happening. But, it is my job to keep his feet to the fire, just as it is your job to keep Conk feet to the fire.

[AZGrizFan]

Most of the conks, yes - but you are not running for office

At least we Obama, we have a SHOT at these things happening. But, it is my job to keep his feet to the fire, just as it is your job to keep Conk feet to the fire.

I DID. And I think it was my pro-evolution, pro-sex education position that cost me the job!

[dbackjon]

Most of the conks, yes - but you are not running for office

At least we Obama, we have a SHOT at these things happening. But, it is my job to keep his feet to the fire, just as it is your job to keep Conk feet to the fire.

I DID. And I think it was my pro-evolution, pro-sex education position that cost me the job!

Either that, or the pictures of Cleets fondling V...

[AZGrizFan]

I DID. And I think it was my pro-evolution, pro-sex education position that cost me the job!

Either that, or the pictures of Cleets fondling V...

Nah....they LIKE that shit up here in the sticks.

[dbackjon]

Either that, or the pictures of Cleets fondling V...

Nah....they LIKE that shit up here in the sticks.

Maybe you should have used the pic with me and V's cleavage - mention something about your work trying to convert the gays.

[BigApp]

amen, Z. We tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried to tell these fools that this guy is NOT who they think he is.

And he's not even Prez yet. First Rick Warren, now this

CHANGE!!!

[dbackjon]

Oh, I never had many illusions about him.

Still, better than mcpalin.

[Wedgebuster]

Oh I'm sure McPalin is all over and under gay sex, they just had no plans to leave the closet.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I DID. And I think it was my pro-evolution, pro-sex education position that cost me the job!

Either that, or the pictures of Cleets fondling V...

AZ is so pro sex ed that he was willing to let V try and teach Cleets something. AZ is a very determined man and he is willing to go to great lengths to teach the likes of a poor sot like Cleets a thing or two.

[BlueHen86]

Apparently he had bad intel.

He was for gay marriage before he was against it.

[travelinman67]

Apparently...

For Obama and the National Democratic Party to make amends I need to see:

1) GLBT added to Federal ENDA
2) Repeal of DADT
3) Repeal of DOMA




Then we will talk.

Yeah, I feel the same way, Jon. After all Clinton did to fv(kover American's 2nd amendment rights, since Hillary's an alleged "Guns and Bible" Dem., and Obama has repeatedly stated he's a 2nd Amendment supporter, to make amends I need to see:

1) Rescind all U.S. code requiring subjection to the Intl. Criminal Court of Rome.
2) Permanent elimination of all sub-class 2 firearm bans.
3) Federal adoption of the Right to Carry law.
4) Prohibition of covert government funding of NGO's whose mission advocates elimination of constitutionally empowered rights.


Then, we will talk.

[travelinman67]

But he's YOUR president, Jon.
Don't you find it ironic that most of the big, bad, evil conks on this board are more liberal on this topic than a socialist president?

F(vk that...I just know I can get Jon to buy when I pass thru PHX.

[AZGrizFan]

But he's YOUR president, Jon.
Don't you find it ironic that most of the big, bad, evil conks on this board are more liberal on this topic than a socialist president?

F(vk that...I just know I can get Jon to buy when I pass thru PHX.

Speaking of that, when are you coming through again? I'm outta that great Scotch you left me last time...

[travelinman67]

F(vk that...I just know I can get Jon to buy when I pass thru PHX.

Speaking of that, when are you coming through again? I'm outta that great Scotch you left me last time...

Dunno...I wasn't too public about it, but I "removed myself" from the road for awhile...maybe for good...number of reasons. I'm thinking of heading to Asia in a few years (5-8 yrs), not for retirement, just for a different experience, have a few friends over there, and a huge demand for my skillset...or, I may head to the south as I originally planned, just don't know...
...anyway, since I'm not hubbing through Sky Harbor on a "weekly" basis, it's probably more likely we'll meet up in Mo town at one of the gatherings.

[BigApp]

I'm thinking of heading to Asia in a few years (5-8 yrs), not for retirement, just for a different experience...

ain't looking to get married over there are ya??

[Appaholic]

I'm thinking of heading to Asia in a few years (5-8 yrs), not for retirement, just for a different experience...

ain't looking to get married over there are ya??

Seriously....it makes sense...the inner turmoil....TMan is *****!

[dbackjon]

I'm thinking of heading to Asia in a few years (5-8 yrs), not for retirement, just for a different experience...

ain't looking to get married over there are ya??

Future Mrs. T-man

[AZGrizFan]

ain't looking to get married over there are ya??

Future Mrs. T-man

Yummy!

Unless that's a BennieBoy....

[dbackjon]

Real woman...

[travelinman67]

I'm thinking of heading to Asia in a few years (5-8 yrs), not for retirement, just for a different experience...

ain't looking to get married over there are ya??

No. Just for relaxation, make a little consulting money.

In Singapore, caning envirowhackos is legal. In fact, it's a little known secret, the govt. maintains "Caning Club" farms much like "Pheasant Clubs", where just before the season opens, they leave tribal drums, pre-loaded beer bongs, and signage over the wooded preserves...



...early birds get the drums...


...that attracts the envirowhackos to the farm...


...a couple of scared roosters hiding in a thatch berm...


...opening day...you can feel the electricity in the air, off in the distance, the envirowhackos chirp out their mating call, "Sayvdee-ert. Sayvdee-ert..."


...the only policies are: Catch and release, and caning of old or undersized envirowhackos is strongly discouraged...

[BigApp]

Future Mrs. T-man

hmmmm...I believe I'd like to put some sauce on her egg foo yung!