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...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:45 am
by Baldy
Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

" A Senate proposal touted as protecting Americans' e-mail privacy has been quietly rewritten, giving government agencies more surveillance power than they possess under current law.

CNET has learned that Patrick Leahy, the influential Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, has dramatically reshaped his legislation in response to law enforcement concerns. A vote on his bill, which now authorizes warrantless access to Americans' e-mail, is scheduled for next week.

Leahy's rewritten bill would allow more than 22 agencies -- including the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Federal Communications Commission -- to access Americans' e-mail, Google Docs files, Facebook wall posts, and Twitter direct messages without a search warrant. It also would give the FBI and Homeland Security more authority, in some circumstances, to gain full access to Internet accounts without notifying either the owner or a judge.

It's an abrupt departure from Leahy's earlier approach, which required police to obtain a search warrant backed by probable cause before they could read the contents of e-mail or other communications. The Vermont Democrat boasted last year that his bill "provides enhanced privacy protections for American consumers by... requiring that the government obtain a search warrant."

Leahy had planned a vote on an earlier version of his bill, designed to update a pair of 1980s-vintage surveillance laws, in late September. But after law enforcement groups including the National District Attorneys' Association and the National Sheriffs' Association organizations objected to the legislation and asked him to "reconsider acting" on it, Leahy pushed back the vote and reworked the bill as a package of amendments to be offered next Thursday."


:lol:

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:50 am
by kalm
If that's all true...unfuckingbelievable.

Another reason to never vote Democrat again although I'm sure plenty of conkressmen will support it too.

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:34 am
by Gil Dobie
Hey big brother, I know you're out there somewhere
If we don't get our thing together, big brother will be watching us
Rare Earth

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:49 am
by Grizalltheway
I can't imagine this being upheld in the courts if it manages to pass...but the Patriot Act is still around, so who knows. :|

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:57 am
by dbackjon
Don't you mean ....and it continues?

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:10 am
by UNI88
dbackjon wrote:Don't you mean ....and it continues?
True!

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:42 am
by Baldy
dbackjon wrote:Don't you mean ....and it continues?
True, but this will be the first shot across the bow to start his second term. :nod:

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:18 pm
by Benne
Fuck that shit! common sense should apply here. I hope they bury that motherfucker. I can't imagine populists or libertarians on either side will let that slide.

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:23 pm
by kalm
Benne wrote:Fuck that shit! common sense should apply here. I hope they bury that motherfucker. I can't imagine populists or libertarians on either side will let that slide.
Exactly my thoughts.

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:00 pm
by Baldy
kalm wrote:
Benne wrote:Fuck that shit! common sense should apply here. I hope they bury that motherfucker. I can't imagine populists or libertarians on either side will let that slide.
Exactly my thoughts.
This bill won't see the light of day in the House if it passes the Senate.
Anyone want to take wagers that the Donks in the Senate will demagogue the House republicans if it passes and gets shelved? I can hear them now..."the republicans want to snoop into your emails", when in fact that is exactly what this legislation is calling for. :lol:

:suspicious:

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:25 pm
by CitadelGrad
Benne wrote:I hope they bury that motherfucker.
Are you speaking of the legislation or the senator?

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:26 pm
by CID1990
If this passes, all I can say is

use smoke signals and

stock up on .223

Re: ...and it starts.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:13 pm
by Col Hogan
CID1990 wrote:If this passes, all I can say is

1. use smoke signals and

2. stock up on .223
Where can I learn #1

# 2 is underway...


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