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I want to start with some apologies. For the record, here and upfront, I apologise for having spent several years ripping up GM crops. I am also sorry that I helped to start the anti-GM movement back in the mid 1990s, and that I thereby assisted in demonising an important technological option which can be used to benefit the environment.

As an environmentalist, and someone who believes that everyone in this world has a right to a healthy and nutritious diet of their choosing, I could not have chosen a more counter-productive path. I now regret it completely.

So I guess you'll be wondering-what happened between 1995 and now that made me not only change my mind but come here and admit it? Well, the answer is fairly simple: I discovered science, and in the process I hope I became a better environmentalist.

Pwns wrote:http://io9.com/5973017/a-huge-step-forw ... -the-enemy

I want to start with some apologies. For the record, here and upfront, I apologise for having spent several years ripping up GM crops. I am also sorry that I helped to start the anti-GM movement back in the mid 1990s, and that I thereby assisted in demonising an important technological option which can be used to benefit the environment.

As an environmentalist, and someone who believes that everyone in this world has a right to a healthy and nutritious diet of their choosing, I could not have chosen a more counter-productive path. I now regret it completely.

So I guess you'll be wondering-what happened between 1995 and now that made me not only change my mind but come here and admit it? Well, the answer is fairly simple: I discovered science, and in the process I hope I became a better environmentalist.

Not that a lot of us didn't already know the Greenpeace nuts were full of crap on this issue.

I wonder how much more starvation and childhood blindness occurred due to Greenpeace quacks scaring African countries s***less over genetically-modified food.

Pwns wrote:http://io9.com/5973017/a-huge-step-forw ... -the-enemy

I want to start with some apologies. For the record, here and upfront, I apologise for having spent several years ripping up GM crops. I am also sorry that I helped to start the anti-GM movement back in the mid 1990s, and that I thereby assisted in demonising an important technological option which can be used to benefit the environment.

As an environmentalist, and someone who believes that everyone in this world has a right to a healthy and nutritious diet of their choosing, I could not have chosen a more counter-productive path. I now regret it completely.

So I guess you'll be wondering-what happened between 1995 and now that made me not only change my mind but come here and admit it? Well, the answer is fairly simple: I discovered science, and in the process I hope I became a better environmentalist.

Not that a lot of us didn't already know the Greenpeace nuts were full of crap on this issue.

I wonder how much more starvation and childhood blindness occurred due to Greenpeace quacks scaring African countries s***less over genetically-modified food.

Grizalltheway wrote:Probably bought stock in Monsanto.

danefan wrote:I was knee deep in this stuff for one of my clients a few years back. There is a lot of question in tax as to how to treat the various markers and DNA alterations and what deductions/credits are allowable.

I got to shoot a gene gun to modify corn DNA.

Even after that experience I have no issue with GMO.

Now hormone treatment in animals is a completely different story.

bison95 wrote:

danefan wrote:I was knee deep in this stuff for one of my clients a few years back. There is a lot of question in tax as to how to treat the various markers and DNA alterations and what deductions/credits are allowable.

I got to shoot a gene gun to modify corn DNA.

Even after that experience I have no issue with GMO.

Now hormone treatment in animals is a completely different story.

What animals that you or I eat are being treated with Hormones? I am heavily involved in animal agriculture and the only animals that recieve "hormone treatments" are for reproductive reasons.

danefan wrote:

bison95 wrote: What animals that you or I eat are being treated with Hormones? I am heavily involved in animal agriculture and the only animals that recieve "hormone treatments" are for reproductive reasons.

Chickens aren't hopped up? Some of the chicken breasts that farmers are able to produce seem awfully suspect to me. Not saying its illegal, because I'm sure it's all within the FDA standards, but i'd much rather buy free range organically raised chickens.

D1B wrote:

danefan wrote:
Chickens aren't hopped up? Some of the chicken breasts that farmers are able to produce seem awfully suspect to me. Not saying its illegal, because I'm sure it's all within the FDA standards, but i'd much rather buy free range organically raised chickens.

Hormones are used on a massive scale to stimulate milk production.

Dairy cows eventually end up in feed lots where hormones are spread to other animals and humans via urine, feces then dust. Feed lots have toxic levels of hormones and antibiotics in the dust and consequently in the meat.

The industrial meat complex is an ugly, disgusting business.

Grizalltheway wrote:Probably bought stock in Monsanto.

Pwns wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:Probably bought stock in Monsanto.

Or he is just going by science and common sense?

Tell me, has anyone really demonstrated how modifying rice to produce beta-carotene (so that children in these developing countries don't lose their eyesight from Vitamin A deficiency) is going to destroy the environment? What about modifying corn stalks so that they produce more ears?

Fringe environmentalists have opposed these GMOs with absolutely no real science backing them. And to think they like to paint folks skeptical of environmentalism as "anti-science".

D1B wrote:

Pwns wrote:
Or he is just going by science and common sense?

Tell me, has anyone really demonstrated how modifying rice to produce beta-carotene (so that children in these developing countries don't lose their eyesight from Vitamin A deficiency) is going to destroy the environment? What about modifying corn stalks so that they produce more ears?

Fringe environmentalists have opposed these GMOs with absolutely no real science backing them. And to think they like to paint folks skeptical of environmentalism as "anti-science".

Higher, unnatural, food production is a primary cause of overpopulation which leads to war, disease, pollution and environmental catastrophes.

Next......

CID1990 wrote:I don't know about you fellas, but titties on them 14 year olds are a hell of a lot bigger than they were when I was snappin bras in high school. I blame lunchroom chicken with all the HGH that us pumped into it.

CID1990 wrote:I don't know about you fellas, but titties on them 14 year olds are a hell of a lot bigger than they were when I was snappin bras in high school. I blame lunchroom chicken with all the HGH that us pumped into it.

GannonFan wrote:

D1B wrote:
Higher, unnatural, food production is a primary cause of overpopulation which leads to war, disease, pollution and environmental catastrophes.

Next......

So what is the right number for how many people should be on the Earth and what are you willing to do to get to that number?

Pwns wrote:

CID1990 wrote:I don't know about you fellas, but titties on them 14 year olds are a hell of a lot bigger than they were when I was snappin bras in high school. I blame lunchroom chicken with all the HGH that us pumped into it.

That theory has been discredited. Puberty occurs earlier these days in girls because they have more body fat at earlier ages.

That's why you'll se a lot of teenage gymnasts with basically no chests.

D1B wrote:

Pwns wrote:
That theory has been discredited. Puberty occurs earlier these days in girls because they have more body fat at earlier ages.

That's why you'll se a lot of teenage gymnasts with basically no chests.

More body fat from ingesting hormone-laden animal protein.

expandspanos wrote:Founder of anti-GMO movement recants-



“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

― Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

houndawg wrote:Up on Houndawg Hill we're about to be forced into raising clean beef by our neighbors.